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TLG Support Group -- Now Officially Closed
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BlackBuzzard
Banned
Where you are going there is no need for mods.
The idea Sony would pretend it's in development even though it isn't is really absurd.
They canceled The Agency after having shown it for years, and had it playable multiple times. And Sony basically announced TLG was canned via Tretton, and they went out of their way to confirm he was wrong. They'd already ripped the bandage off, and they decided to still put it back on.
Pretending it exists when it doesn't is really not believable. When we see pictures of Ueda at the office what do people really think is happening? They have an image editor on staff photoshopping him in? They pay him to come in and pose with a Rift on to keep the myth alive?
The game was a technical mess, they had a new console coming, so they delayed it to PS4, and it hasn't been re-revealed yet, that's all the 'mystery' to it.
They canceled The Agency after having shown it for years, and had it playable multiple times. And Sony basically announced TLG was canned via Tretton, and they went out of their way to confirm he was wrong. They'd already ripped the bandage off, and they decided to still put it back on.
Pretending it exists when it doesn't is really not believable. When we see pictures of Ueda at the office what do people really think is happening? They have an image editor on staff photoshopping him in? They pay him to come in and pose with a Rift on to keep the myth alive?
The game was a technical mess, they had a new console coming, so they delayed it to PS4, and it hasn't been re-revealed yet, that's all the 'mystery' to it.
Lumpy Onion
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rofl that is amazing
Thaumaturgic Tomato
Member
Checking Trico's neck, the last pulse was detected 1/21/2014.
http://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=the+last+guardian
Its brain apparently has entered extreme hibernation mode and is expending as little energy as possible, just as its creator does. The fewest heartbeats needed to avoid being declared dead, like its creator survived on the fewest work days needed to be considered a team member. It will only wake when its Spring arrives. Hopefully in the Trico's land, Spring begins June 10, 2014.
http://www.trademarkia.com/trademarks-search.aspx?tn=the+last+guardian
Its brain apparently has entered extreme hibernation mode and is expending as little energy as possible, just as its creator does. The fewest heartbeats needed to avoid being declared dead, like its creator survived on the fewest work days needed to be considered a team member. It will only wake when its Spring arrives. Hopefully in the Trico's land, Spring begins June 10, 2014.
This.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPpCKjFrXzE
I still wish we knew more about the technical issues. We only ever get hearsay and even then some of it seems implausible. And of course you have the usual chorus of "i can c that is subhd from the pixels" crew.
I still wish we knew more about the technical issues. We only ever get hearsay and even then some of it seems implausible. And of course you have the usual chorus of "i can c that is subhd from the pixels" crew.
wapplew
Member
Almost 3 million views...3 million hearts will break at e3,
I swear to god, if TLG ever sees the light of day it had better come with a full-length documentary covering the trials and tribulations of its mythic development. After staying loyal for this long, we goddamn motherfucking cunt deserve to know. They owe us at least that much!
Fucking shit I'm getting so mad just thinking about it. A whole generation went by without a single Team ICO game, and it was the longest gen in gaming history! It's too much to bear. Fuck this. Hold me, support group.
Fucking shit I'm getting so mad just thinking about it. A whole generation went by without a single Team ICO game, and it was the longest gen in gaming history! It's too much to bear. Fuck this. Hold me, support group.
You don't want to use the trailers, the only gameplay footage was in the documentary that came with the Ico/SotC collection.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44g8-EUqXpc&t=7m8s
I've actually never seen this, but don't people take too much from dev footage? I feel like every time we see offscreen footage from inside the lab it's always glitchy and framey and stuff.
I bet it was a combo of technical issues and also that the game wasn't fun. They couldn't find a way to meaningfully create puzzles with Catbird and the game was primarily about delivering sandwiches.
There's really not a lot of footage in here :\
DangerMouse
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We're getting kind of off-topic for the thread, but we had a whole thread or couple of threads on that and that doesn't change the fact that they've also expanded a number of their studios a lot prior to these new cuts despite making those cuts at the beginning of this year. As the article you linked to says the cuts were probably for a combination of studio issues and perhaps some fat and probably some in-between project turnover or something, and yes probably some for expenses too. Not that everything's perfect or anything, cuts happening sucks for those effected and some probably are linked to failed game projects but "entire studios" and "many high profile" seems like an exaggeration at least looking at the various articles about the cuts.
For example, we know SSM is getting atleast partially rebooted after a large scale failed project. Most of the reported 60 from SSM probably came from that game and they still have hundreds of employees. Despite the two high profile departures from ND, the arcticle sights they haven't even laid anyone off. And the studios that laid off people as you said are also still hiring.
The only main high profile people that left I think we've seen in articles are Hennig (which especially sucks since I've loved a lot of her games), Richmond (both from the same project), Stig after his project died, and lower down from them Killian.
Cave Johnson
Member
Never a problem for me. I understood why they designed it like that and it's extremely bold. Unlike the floaty, weightless textures you see in most modern AAA titles.
Yes. You can play the HD versions or the originals if you happen to be lucky enough to own them. Anticipation of TLG is inevitable upon completion, they are some of gaming's greatest.
Dragon1893
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He's aware of people's expectations after all this time and his reputation is riding on it. He's not going to half-ass it. For all intents and purposes everybody thinks of it as an Ueda game and if it sucks it'll be on him. Besides, I'm pretty sure he wants to be proud of the game, that's a huge chunk of his career, I don't think anyone working on this project wants to feel that all that time was wasted.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
One of those was from September 2013. Here's an even more recent one:
MARCH 2014
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2014/03/12/sony-loves-that-people-are-still-interested-in-the-last-guardian
So either stop posting this its a ripe candidate for the cancel hammer bullshit or answer my question:
IAmRandom31
Banned
No Games and no Last Guardian make Jack a Sad Batman
I agree, I think it was technical issues, not just limited to performance either, I'm sure it's an AI nightmare to get that thing moving through environments convincingly, along with being where you need it to be and without it feeling like a burden as well as just pure entertainment value.
It was also seemingly not as imaginative as their first two games, it looks like Ico 2 with some stealth elements, and while I'm sure that would make for an excellent game, it wasn't going to be as bold as the other two.
There was also Majin's release, some former Team ICO staff worked on it, and it's obviously extremely reminiscent of TLG, it may have contained elements intended for TLG which were then deemed unusable.
I hope if/when it does come out, we get lots of postmortem content, there's a book in here somewhere.
DangerMouse
Member
You cruel bastard lol.
The Deep Space 9 image is still the best for describing our endless hope.
No Games and no Last Guardian make Jack a Sad Batman
Lol.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
All plausible, but it could go another way. His reputation as a AAA developer is already shot. His team failed to produce a game during a generation that lasted 8 years. Maybe he wants to work on smaller, more manageable projects now and TLG is just an anchor around his neck. We all want the work we do to be good, but at a certain point, under prolonged strain and difficulty, sometimes we just want something to be over.
I am fully aware that my post is just as speculative as yours; I'm just presenting it as a possible scenario, one that I wouldn't be all that surprised to hear were true.
Majin was largely ignored on release and it's all but forgotten now, so if they have any good ideas at all they were holding back because of that game, they should reconsider.
DAREALGUMMY
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doctorcdcs
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Reporting in with pre-order in hand.
Sidewinder
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Reporting in with pre-order in hand.
Lol same here, I'll never cancel it, so you better not cancel it too SONY!!
I believe.
DC1
Member
I'm just wondering if we've been infiltrated by the 'Poopoo on your Dreams' club.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
This year, right guys? Next gen is out now, so they gotta show a big exclusive to really ramp up the hype! So that means it's happening, this time for sure...
hi, I'm halfbeast. and I haven't been watching the trailer for 2 weeks now~
...I hate you!
...I hate you!
I'm in the same boat. I really liked the way there was a weight when the camera changed direction. It felt like going against the momentum picked up by the character.
However, I think that the current way of super responsive control is the current fashion and it may be too risky in a metacritic-world to be too 'out there' in terms of design lest they be called old fashioned.
Handy Fake
Member
No Games and no Last Guardian make Jack a Sad Batman
Just snorted a chip out of my nostril. Cheers for that.
You know why there's people who screaming doom like that guy? It's because the number of articles reporting people leaving/layoffs vs joining a studio is so unbalanced.
During that SSM layoff thing, they were still hiring. To just remind people, SSM has over 200 employees. SCE London studios, Media Molecule, Guerrilla Cambridge, and other studios were/are all hiring. So why don't we see articles reporting any of the new developers joining?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
wapplew
Member
I'll never forgive them if they try to modernize the control to shitty auto everything.
Handy Fake
Member
Are you TRYING to start a Holy War?
IT WILL BE WORTH IT YOULL SEEDon't do this to yourselves guys, is not worth it.
you'll all see...
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