Rogue Agent
Banned
Speaking of 1080p/60fps I hope Kojima rereleases the Legacy Collection (or some variant) on Next-Gen Systems one day. MGS4 could really use the framerate boost and MGS2 & 3 HD were only 720p as well I think.
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MGS:GZ - Looks and Performs a lot better on PS4...
- Thread starter Miles Quaritch
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CriterionDog
Member
I'm so excited for this. Is there a digital preorder on psn yet? (ps4 version)
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
The graphics are so good that Joakim Mogren is rendered in real-time on PS4.
On Xbone it's just a prerecorded cutscene.
#TeamCG
On Xbone it's just a prerecorded cutscene.
#TeamCG
So you seriously think Kojima sabotaged the Xbone version on purpose?
Castef
Banned
If that was what he meant - although he didn't write it -, one might ask him why he judges Indie games by different standards. He jumped on a (at that time) hot topic over-enthusiastically, and that is never a good idea for people with his visibility.
Caayn
Member
Jup, Microsoft is stuck with the weaker console for the rest of this generation. The only thing they can do is the same as what Sony did halfway through the PS3s life, deliver as much value as you can.
No. I'm implying that Hideo Kojima game are meant to be played on Sony platforms.
By default this time!
Rogue Agent
Banned
Didn't Kojima only say they were "aiming" for 1080p/60fps on next-gen? That didn't necessarily have to mean both consoles would achieve that target lol.
to be fair he right in a way, it's not anywhere near close to 30%. it's much larger because of bottlenecks.
OriginalThinking
Member
I don't agree. Almost all his tweets are about indie content and developers because that's his job. When indie developers are telling him that their content will run 1080p, 60fps he's going to tweet that out of enthusiasm. And thus far, the majority of indie content for PS4 is 1080p 60fps. That's the context.
Sadly twitter is a terrible medium for this sort of stuff due to the character limit and that it's easy to take one or two tweets out of the wider context of the author.
Instead of appreciating that wider context, it's far easier to create controversy and videogamez warz through selective quoting.
EDIT: Whether it was wise for him to have tweeted that is a separate matter given the current hot button topic of frame rate and resolution is another matter entirely.
Sword Of Doom
Member
But didn't Albert recently say he has insider info that there is no power gap? I don't have a direct quote but when they say things like that it just makes them look silly. It's a tough situation for them to be in though. I guest best thing to do is focus on the strengths of your console, even if they might not be Inge that appeal to core gamers.
I can see that happening. I was trying to go back and see the context and previous tweets but I got tired of scrolling.
gamerforever
Banned
Has he ever liked them though?
Rhazer Fusion
Member
MGS4 has good looking content but I remember thinking it was variable back in 2008. It looked really bad at times.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I thought so too. I hated the constant installing between chapters, but that was apparently fixed by a patch last year...
Sword Of Doom
Member
Didn't MGS4 look incredible when it launched?
I thought it did
The character models looked excellent (and still do for that generation) and some of the environments looked good, but there was some disappointing areas and some performance issues.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Yeah, the installing was pretty annoying, but even after the trophy patch came out, I went back and played it and thought it can easily hold it's own against current PS3 and X360 games. I do wonder if MGS:Ground Zero and Phantom Pain will be as memorable and great as MGS4. MGS4 was arguably the best experience of the generation for me. So powerful and awesome imo. Beauty and the Beast unit, microwave, Metal Gear, characters, etc.
Of course there is "room to spare" since it's a touched up last gen port. Now the real question will be how much room there is for Phantom Pain.
You speak the truth
Based Kojima, justifying our $399 purchase.
That DLC would have been so much better if solid snake had a proper 3d model, instead its always the same crappy ps1 model in things like this
That's easy. MGS4 was easily the worst of the series.
Noisepurge
Member
oh wow, and i dont know why Konami itself is even going to release that comparison video they dont want that microsoft money i guess...
they dont want that microsoft money i guess...They don't give a fuck about "keeping the peace with MS", they give a fuck about sales. You know, to keep the lights on and all that.
Inferior version or not, they still desperately want the Xbox One version to sell gangbusters.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Kojima Productions just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Xbox culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in PlayStation Land where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Xbox Town, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the Xbox public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Ground Zeroes for either system, nor will they purchase any of Kojima's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima has alienated an entire market with this move.
Kojima, publicly apologize and cancel Ground Zeroes for PS4 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about Xbox culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in PlayStation Land where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in Xbox Town, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the Xbox public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Ground Zeroes for either system, nor will they purchase any of Kojima's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Kojima has alienated an entire market with this move.
Kojima, publicly apologize and cancel Ground Zeroes for PS4 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I agree. Not sure if it's nostalgia or Kojima being Kojima, but he should understand that it got old and he looks quite bad.
Knowing his ways, I'm sure he would develop a MGS1 remake with him looking like that.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Dying
flying dutchman
Neo Member
Man how i hate MS for what they have done to the xbox brand. So much goodwill gained the hard way over the previous 2 gens and they go and piss it away like this.
How could MS go so underpowered this gen? And its not like the PS4 is some kinda ray tracing beast.
I just wonder if MS could go back in time and redo the xbone what they would do.
How could MS go so underpowered this gen? And its not like the PS4 is some kinda ray tracing beast.
I just wonder if MS could go back in time and redo the xbone what they would do.
eso76
Member
I think it's more like "who pissed off Yusuf Mehdi/Don Mattrick at Microsoft ?"
robertsan21
Member
I guess we can stop talking about this. Its old! Multiplatform games will always perform better on PS4. So if anyone wants to buy the inferior version of a game, pick it up on Xboned.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Sony should add a new description on all multiformat titles...
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
And the guy who built the game ...
ehh...sure
It's a gaf meme.
Its decent but look at the 2005 reveal trailer. The downdgrade is pretty significant in the final release. It had great lighting but the animations were straight from PS2 and the textures were some of the lowest in resolution I have seen on PS3. Its good that Kojima learned from this and developed a proper engine and the result is this beautiful MGSV.
Because people like talking about differences? Plenty of folks own both XO and PS4 so if there are differences, many would like to know so they can get the best version.
These threads exist and you aren't forced to post in them, man. You have the liberty to ignore them.
SJRB
Gold Member
...because it's easier to accept that Kojima purposely sabotaged the Xbone version rather than that the PS4 is more powerful than the One?