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UC4 Game Director Justin Richmond Leaves ND (And famousmortimer leaves GAF #1393)

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As carefully as I can-

I want to apologize for any bad information that I've ever given. The fact of the matter is I know developers, I have friends in the industry, and I do know things- but I've also been misled, and told the wrong thing plenty of times. In the same breath, I've been told things that were spot on, correct, and have come true even when I doubted it from the exact same person. I've learned one thing over the past year-

This idea that a bulletproof insider exists is ludicrous. The best of them have told me things privately that have turned out to be wrong. This doesn't mean they were intentionally lying, or trying to misconstrue the truth- the reality is, bad information is bad information, and its everywhere, even with the best journalists, developers, "insiders", and MODs on this forum. Everything is a pinch of salt.

My avatar is a parrot. I speak what I hear. Mock me for what I am. A bird.

The last few months have become awful to digest. Lay offs, major news outlets (IGN) posting sensationalist journalistic backwash, falling apart with some of our favorite GAF members, and developers in the industry getting hurt both professionally and personally.

I can't speak for anyone else, but myself. I am not a guy looking to get famous on the internet, or become popular on GAF. I like videogames, I like helping people, and I like cupcakes.

I hope we don't continue the next 15 pages discussing why someone got fired, how credible insiders are, or begin mocking members for their long term goals. I'm hitting the reset button. If anyone has any questions about why I said whatever I said in the past, feel free to PM me.


One last thing- Mr. Col Rodgers- I am praying for your son. I did an externship for Pediatric Nephrology at Harvard, and have worked with experts in this field. If you ever need anything feel free to pm me, email me, or whatever. I want to publicly let you know, I am humiliated and saddened by everything that has went on the last month and as a human being- I want to extend my hand.


Alright GAF, feel free to BBQ me.

I don't think people should think that you need to be 100 percent right all the time or get permabanned. So long as we treat your rumors as rumors and not the gospel, its fine. It is how NEOGAF reacts to rumors is the problem.
 

vpance

Member
As carefully as I can-

I want to apologize for any bad information that I've ever given. The fact of the matter is I know developers, I have friends in the industry, and I do know things- but I've also been misled, and told the wrong thing plenty of times. In the same breath, I've been told things that were spot on, correct, and have come true even when I doubted it from the exact same person. I've learned one thing over the past year-

This idea that a bulletproof insider exists is ludicrous. The best of them have told me things privately that have turned out to be wrong. This doesn't mean they were intentionally lying, or trying to misconstrue the truth- the reality is, bad information is bad information, and its everywhere, even with the best journalists, developers, "insiders", and MODs on this forum. Everything is a pinch of salt.

My avatar is a parrot. I speak what I hear. Mock me for what I am. A bird.

The last few months have become awful to digest. Lay offs, major news outlets (IGN) posting sensationalist journalistic backwash, falling apart with some of our favorite GAF members, and developers in the industry getting hurt both professionally and personally.

I can't speak for anyone else, but myself. I am not a guy looking to get famous on the internet, or become popular on GAF. I like videogames, I like helping people, and I like cupcakes.

I hope we don't continue the next 15 pages discussing why someone got fired, how credible insiders are, or begin mocking members for their long term goals. I'm hitting the reset button. If anyone has any questions about why I said whatever I said in the past, feel free to PM me.


One last thing- Mr. Col Rodgers- I am praying for your son. I did an externship for Pediatric Nephrology at Harvard, and have worked with experts in this field. If you ever need anything feel free to pm me, email me, or whatever. I want to publicly let you know, I am humiliated and saddened by everything that has went on the last month and as a human being- I want to extend my hand.


Alright GAF, feel free to BBQ me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSVDcw6iW8
 

EL CUCO

Member
As carefully as I can-

I want to apologize for any bad information that I've ever given. The fact of the matter is I know developers, I have friends in the industry, and I do know things- but I've also been misled, and told the wrong thing plenty of times. In the same breath, I've been told things that were spot on, correct, and have come true even when I doubted it from the exact same person. I've learned one thing over the past year-

This idea that a bulletproof insider exists is ludicrous. The best of them have told me things privately that have turned out to be wrong. This doesn't mean they were intentionally lying, or trying to misconstrue the truth- the reality is, bad information is bad information, and its everywhere, even with the best journalists, developers, "insiders", and MODs on this forum. Everything is a pinch of salt.

My avatar is a parrot. I speak what I hear. Mock me for what I am. A bird.

The last few months have become awful to digest. Lay offs, major news outlets (IGN) posting sensationalist journalistic backwash, falling apart with some of our favorite GAF members, and developers in the industry getting hurt both professionally and personally.

I can't speak for anyone else, but myself. I am not a guy looking to get famous on the internet, or become popular on GAF. I like videogames, I like helping people, and I like cupcakes.

I hope we don't continue the next 15 pages discussing why someone got fired, how credible insiders are, or begin mocking members for their long term goals. I'm hitting the reset button. If anyone has any questions about why I said whatever I said in the past, feel free to PM me.


One last thing- Mr. Col Rodgers- I am praying for your son. I did an externship for Pediatric Nephrology at Harvard, and have worked with experts in this field. If you ever need anything feel free to pm me, email me, or whatever. I want to publicly let you know, I am humiliated and saddened by everything that has went on the last month and as a human being- I want to extend my hand.


Alright GAF, feel free to BBQ me.
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tuna_love

Banned
What I don't understand about leakers is one thing. If you're so passionate about games, why leak things that game developers wouldn't want leaked? Like spoiling a reveal of a new game before its officially set to be revealed.
 

The_Monk

Member

thuway


Thank you for writing that. As far as the leaks go, at this point I don't mind them when it's something like "New game in progress" or "Something exclusive to someone" and so on. For me the worst part of this was not the news itself but how they were released. It's one thing to say something regarding a product but when it comes to humans, things should always be dealt with care. Nothing good ever comes out when we point our finger and say "This person didn't made it, he left the company for that" but worst part is when someone feels the need to explain to us his reasons for exiting the company. It's very personal and we should always respect each and every one. Saying "I'm sorry" does not solve the damage one may have done.

So, please, do keep your work. Be polite and respectful. It's good to know that in exchange you do not seek fame/attention, glory or... money. It's always good to keep a positive perspective even when things are bad. It's all about karma, I believe.

As long as you keep it that way I think I'll be there for you, (we will be there for you) but things change, people change so... many of us get suspicious. It's okay to be like that, nobody is perfect after all.

I don't know if you are going to even read this, or know me as a member of this fine Community but I would like to say that when someone needs something, if I can help, I will. Because it's what this Community is all about: keeping ourselves together while discussing everything in the gaming industry in a decent manner. When we all get along, this place is simply amazing. And I'm always going to try my best to keep this place like that because it's simply worth it.
 

StuBurns

Banned
What I don't understand about leakers is one thing. If you're so passionate about games, why leak things that game developers wouldn't want leaked? Like spoiling a reveal of a new game before its officially set to be revealed.
I don't think good news leaking hurts at all, it just makes people more excited. And it's not treated like real news anyway, they still get to announce it when the time comes.

For example, if DemonNite was to confirm TLG is in development on PS4 right now, it would lower my blood pressure, ease my sleeping, and not do any harm to Sony at all... It's almost stupid not to... Right? ... Please





Jokes aside, it really doesn't hurt at all.
I'm confused why thuway just posted that. Maybe I missed something.
 

KalBalboa

Banned
My best wishes and sentiments for you and your son Col. Can't wait to play DriveClub someday too it looks great and was one of the reasons I bought a PS4.
 
What I don't understand about leakers is one thing. If you're so passionate about games, why leak things that game developers wouldn't want leaked? Like spoiling a reveal of a new game before its officially set to be revealed.
Because the secrecy of the games industry can be annoying and we are bored and want to know what we can look forward to i guess.
 

Slashlen

Member
This idea that a bulletproof insider exists is ludicrous. The best of them have told me things privately that have turned out to be wrong. This doesn't mean they were intentionally lying, or trying to misconstrue the truth- the reality is, bad information is bad information, and its everywhere, even with the best journalists, developers, "insiders", and MODs on this forum. Everything is a pinch of salt.

This. So many people have this idea that inside info should be infallible. The actual news isn't infallible, and inside info by it's very nature is less reliable. The idea that someone will get 100% accuracy just by being careful is a fallacy.
 

jschreier

Member
What I don't understand about leakers is one thing. If you're so passionate about games, why leak things that game developers wouldn't want leaked? Like spoiling a reveal of a new game before its officially set to be revealed.
Lots of reasons. For one, not every game developer supports the PR-driven announcement schedules and "we're not talking about that yet"s that plague big gaming companies. Lots of people would like to see the video game industry become more open and less secretive.
 

_hekk05

Banned
I don't think good news leaking hurts at all, it just makes people more excited. And it's not treated like real news anyway, they still get to announce it when the time comes.

For example, if DemonNite was to confirm TLG is in development on PS4 right now, it would lower my blood pressure, ease my sleeping, and not do any harm to Sony at all... It's almost stupid not to... Right? ... Please

Jokes aside, it really doesn't hurt at all.

I'm confused why thuway just posted that. Maybe I missed something.

Oh I dunno. Imagine E3 2014. Its the end of the show. Lights dim. Everybody gets ready to leave. People are still disappointed with the lack of TLG.

Suddenly, the lights come back on. "One more thing...", says Yosp. A screen of TLOU is shown. "TLOU will be available on the PS4 tomorrow. It will be 1080p 60fps with improved AI. See you there!" Yosp then walks off stage.

All ruined because some dude let slip TLOU is coming this summer to the PS4.
 

Putty

Member
Just on the subject of sensationalist bullshit editorial writing or whatever you want to call it, can i also add Gamingbolt to the list of junk sites. They ran with it quicker than DS did i think, and i think in general they really are very trashy. Just after this all blew up they also followed me on Twitter, no doubt looking for more quotes or whatever. #blocked
 

curb

Banned
This. So many people have this idea that inside info should be infallible. The actual news isn't infallible, and inside info by it's very nature is less reliable. The idea that someone will get 100% accuracy just by being careful is a fallacy.

People also forget that some things change over time. Plans get cancelled and whatnot. Information that may have been accurate at one point may not stay that way. People should always take early/inside information with a grain of salt until there is official confirmation.
 

StuBurns

Banned
Lots of reasons. For one, not every game developer supports the PR-driven announcement schedules and "we're not talking about that yet"s that plague big gaming companies. Lots of people would like to see the video game industry become more open and less secretive.
It's funny how it compares to Hollywood. As soon as a Producer is attached to a script, a project is announced, it gets an IMDB page, and they publicly discuss it, and those are very often original screenplays, with no decided release window. In gaming, COD11 is a secret despite everyone who could possibly care knowing who's making it, and that it'll be in the first two weeks of November.
Oh I dunno. Imagine E3 2014. Its the end of the show. Lights dim. Everybody gets ready to leave. People are still disappointed with the lack of TLG.

Suddenly, the lights come back on. "One more thing...", says Yosp. A screen of TLOU is shown. "TLOU will be available on the PS4 tomorrow. It will be 1080p 60fps with improved AI. See you there!" Yosp then walks off stage.

All ruined because some dude let slip TLOU is coming this summer to the PS4.
TLoU is a good example of a complete non-surprise.

If they didn't make, I'd be very surprised.
 

jschreier

Member
This. So many people have this idea that inside info should be infallible. The actual news isn't infallible, and inside info by it's very nature is less reliable. The idea that someone will get 100% accuracy just by being careful is a fallacy.
Which makes it even more important for untrained insiders to be aware of the difference between gossip about products and gossip about people's lives and careers.
 
Oh I dunno. Imagine E3 2014. Its the end of the show. Lights dim. Everybody gets ready to leave. People are still disappointed with the lack of TLG.

Suddenly, the lights come back on. "One more thing...", says Yosp. A screen of TLOU is shown. "TLOU will be available on the PS4 tomorrow. It will be 1080p 60fps with improved AI. See you there!" Yosp then walks off stage.

All ruined because some dude let slip TLOU is coming this summer to the PS4.
My god. Worst E3 ever. Leaking that would do us a favour.
 

Slashlen

Member
Which makes it even more important for untrained insiders to be aware of the difference between gossip about products and gossip about people's lives and careers.

Oh, agreed. Mort screwed up here, and I'm fine with the people complaining about that. He should have exercised better judgement about those types of rumors.

It's all the other people who try to hold this up as some example that he never knew anything, that he was always full of shit like CBOAT. They'd leak 12 rumors, 11 would be true, but there's this chorus of idiots who hold up the 1 as the proof that these insiders knew nothing.
 
Which makes it even more important for untrained insiders to be aware of the difference between gossip about products and gossip about people's lives and careers.

Yup.

Insiders can make mistakes, the main issue I have with Thuway is that most of the time it just plain looks like Sony PR, then he gives information about MS (specifically MS, not third party games on XB1) like the OS issues pre-launch that turned out to be incredibly incorrect and that reduces his credibility. He can like who he wants but when you align yourself so much with one side then give information on the otherside which is incorrect, questions your entire credibility.
 
I did an externship for Pediatric Nephrology at Harvard, and have worked with experts in this field. If you ever need anything feel free to pm me, email me, or whatever.
The rest of your post seems fine, but I don't think someone who did an externship, which precludes actual patient management, at "Harvard" (Boston Children's? Mass General? The Brigham? BIDMC?) should offer medical advice to strangers online.
 

prwxv3

Member
Oh, agreed. Mort screwed up here, and I'm fine with the people complaining about that. He should have exercised better judgement about those types of rumors.

It's all the other people who try to hold this up as some example that he never knew anything, that he was always full of shit like CBOAT. They'd leak 12 rumors, 11 would be true, but there's this chorus of idiots who hold up the 1 as the proof that these insiders knew nothing.

Oh god this. Mort got many things correct. Same thing with cboat. The revisionist history with their records is starting to bother me.
 
What I don't understand about leakers is one thing. If you're so passionate about games, why leak things that game developers wouldn't want leaked? Like spoiling a reveal of a new game before its officially set to be revealed.
Because he'd understand people want info?

For example, I'm a huge Demon's Souls fan. I don't want to be lead on a leash for two years if a sequel is indeed in development, I want names, I want info, I want dates. People passionate about games are the ones that would understand a fan's curiosity.
 

Owzers

Member
It's funny how it compares to Hollywood. As soon as a Producer is attached to a script, a project is announced, it gets an IMDB page, and they publicly discuss it, and those are very often original screenplays, with no decided release window. In gaming, COD11 is a secret despite everyone who could possibly care knowing who's making it, and that it'll be in the first two weeks of November.

TLoU is a good example of a complete non-surprise.

If they didn't make, I'd be very surprised.

Going to be the same with Halo 2 Anniversary. You don't get surprise credits for me with old games.
 

_hekk05

Banned
My god. Worst E3 ever. Leaking that would do us a favour.

Hahaha. Quite honestly, I can't find myself getting excited for anything this year from either MS or Sony. Would love to be proved wrong though

Inb4 TLG re-reveal.

The rest of your post seems fine, but I don't think someone who did an externship, which precludes actual patient management, at "Harvard" (Boston Children's? Mass General? The Brigham? BIDMC?) should offer medical advice to strangers online.

Doesn't have to be medical advice. He could just pass along some contacts
 
As carefully as I can-

I want to apologize for any bad information that I've ever given. The fact of the matter is I know developers, I have friends in the industry, and I do know things- but I've also been misled, and told the wrong thing plenty of times. In the same breath, I've been told things that were spot on, correct, and have come true even when I doubted it from the exact same person. I've learned one thing over the past year-

This idea that a bulletproof insider exists is ludicrous. The best of them have told me things privately that have turned out to be wrong. This doesn't mean they were intentionally lying, or trying to misconstrue the truth- the reality is, bad information is bad information, and its everywhere, even with the best journalists, developers, "insiders", and MODs on this forum. Everything is a pinch of salt.

My avatar is a parrot. I speak what I hear. Mock me for what I am. A bird.

The last few months have become awful to digest. Lay offs, major news outlets (IGN) posting sensationalist journalistic backwash, falling apart with some of our favorite GAF members, and developers in the industry getting hurt both professionally and personally.

I can't speak for anyone else, but myself. I am not a guy looking to get famous on the internet, or become popular on GAF. I like videogames, I like helping people, and I like cupcakes.

I hope we don't continue the next 15 pages discussing why someone got fired, how credible insiders are, or begin mocking members for their long term goals. I'm hitting the reset button. If anyone has any questions about why I said whatever I said in the past, feel free to PM me.


One last thing- Mr. Col Rodgers- I am praying for your son. I did an externship for Pediatric Nephrology at Harvard, and have worked with experts in this field. If you ever need anything feel free to pm me, email me, or whatever. I want to publicly let you know, I am humiliated and saddened by everything that has went on the last month and as a human being- I want to extend my hand.


Alright GAF, feel free to BBQ me.

From what I've read from social media and here , Some people think you have an agenda, taking your preferences a bit too far, especially in your distribution of news, not just the content but the timing.

Look at the way you lashed out at people over The Order just because they wasn't universally praising every aspect of it or the way you come across over Watch Dogs being the next superior performing game, almost smug like. If I've got that wrong then I'm sorry but if I'm honest I do think, you don't do yourself any favours at times, don't give moronic fanboys any fuel, try and be a bit more aware.

Also I think what you are doing from a personal aspect in terms of your career/profession is to be respected and I wish you well with that.
 

Winternet

Banned
Talking about TLG is not funny anymore. After all those layoffs, downsizing and cutbacks, im not sure TLG exist anymore. and that would break my heart.
 

Nicktendo86

Member
Oh god this. Mort got many things correct. Same thing with cboat. The revisionist history with their records is starting to bother me.
I really don't mean to sound like an arse, but could you please give me some examples of what Mort has got right? People keep saying it but I haven't seen examples and I am not really familiar with Mort's history. Again I am not doubting he had leaks, just curious of what they were?
 
Well, that was interesting. To be frank though, Thuway tends to be wrong about things in a way that makes his favourite company look really good too often for him to have any credibility. The recent ps4 memory allocation fiasco being a good example.
 
Oh I dunno. Imagine E3 2014. Its the end of the show. Lights dim. Everybody gets ready to leave. People are still disappointed with the lack of TLG.

Suddenly, the lights come back on. "One more thing...", says Yosp. A screen of TLOU is shown. "TLOU will be available on the PS4 tomorrow. It will be 1080p 60fps with improved AI. See you there!" Yosp then walks off stage.

All ruined because some dude let slip TLOU is coming this summer to the PS4.

Oh no! There is TLOU for PS4? How could you spoil that shit?! Now I must look forward to summer and that awesome game, waiting in excitement when I could live without knowing anything, still thinking PS4 calendar is shit. Bastard.
 

Lynn616

Member
I think we can all agree at least that the no drm campaign and the subsequent outpour of negative press for microsoft had a hand in them changing their tune.

Fallon was a big part of MS changing their minds.

Well, that was interesting. To be frank though, Thuway tends to be wrong about things in a way that makes his favourite company look really good too often for him to have any credibility. The recent ps4 memory allocation fiasco being a good example.

What was this?
 

Cornbread78

Member
The rest of your post seems fine, but I don't think someone who did an externship, which precludes actual patient management, at "Harvard" (Boston Children's? Mass General? The Brigham? BIDMC?) should offer medical advice to strangers online.


I do remember seeing a tweet that stated he just got his doctorate recently... I he doesn't know himself, I'm sure he can help direct him to people that can..
 

C Jones

Member
I don't think people should think that you need to be 100 percent right all the time or get permabanned. So long as we treat your rumors as rumors and not the gospel, its fine. It is how NEOGAF reacts to rumors is the problem.
So basically people should be able to post whatever garbage they hear and just say "well it's a rumor" and they are fine? NEOGAF would be a cesspool of garbage info if there was no accountability. If you're a self proclaimed "insider" you need to be held accountable. A journalist loses their name and their rep when they are wrong. On GAF, an insider gets banned. This is fair.
 

ironcreed

Banned
As carefully as I can-

I want to apologize for any bad information that I've ever given. The fact of the matter is I know developers, I have friends in the industry, and I do know things- but I've also been misled, and told the wrong thing plenty of times. In the same breath, I've been told things that were spot on, correct, and have come true even when I doubted it from the exact same person. I've learned one thing over the past year-

This idea that a bulletproof insider exists is ludicrous. The best of them have told me things privately that have turned out to be wrong. This doesn't mean they were intentionally lying, or trying to misconstrue the truth- the reality is, bad information is bad information, and its everywhere, even with the best journalists, developers, "insiders", and MODs on this forum. Everything is a pinch of salt.

My avatar is a parrot. I speak what I hear. Mock me for what I am. A bird.

The last few months have become awful to digest. Lay offs, major news outlets (IGN) posting sensationalist journalistic backwash, falling apart with some of our favorite GAF members, and developers in the industry getting hurt both professionally and personally.

I can't speak for anyone else, but myself. I am not a guy looking to get famous on the internet, or become popular on GAF. I like videogames, I like helping people, and I like cupcakes.

I hope we don't continue the next 15 pages discussing why someone got fired, how credible insiders are, or begin mocking members for their long term goals. I'm hitting the reset button. If anyone has any questions about why I said whatever I said in the past, feel free to PM me.


One last thing- Mr. Col Rodgers- I am praying for your son. I did an externship for Pediatric Nephrology at Harvard, and have worked with experts in this field. If you ever need anything feel free to pm me, email me, or whatever. I want to publicly let you know, I am humiliated and saddened by everything that has went on the last month and as a human being- I want to extend my hand.


Alright GAF, feel free to BBQ me.

You seem like a good guy and I wish you well. But such flimsy leaks do nothing but create shit storms at best and situations like this at worst. As often times, it only ever amounts to nothing but spreading pure FUD, whether that was your original intent or not. Once the cat is let out of the bag, it's really beyond your control at that point and would have been best left unsaid.

If anything, this thread is proof positive of these 'leaks' doing far more damage to the industry we proclaim to love than any good that might be gained from a bunch of hungry gamers getting an inside scoop that may or may not even be the truth. Info starts as a spark and then spreads like fire on the internet. When bad info takes on a life of it's own the damage is done and the only one who should bear the responsibility is the one who chose to start the spark in the first place. Just sayin'.
 

_hekk05

Banned
So basically people should be able to post whatever garbage they hear and just say "well it's a rumor" and they are fine? NEOGAF would be a cesspool of garbage info if there was no accountability. If you're a self proclaimed "insider" you need to be held accountable. A journalist loses their name and their rep when they are wrong. On GAF, an insider gets banned. This is fair.

Not gamez journalistz. They seem to have infinite name and rep to lose.

Of course there should be a line drawn in the sand, but sometimes its not as clearcut. Sometimes the rumor was true at the time of the reveal but is untrue now. Sometimes the rumor is false info fed to flush out leakers. Sometimes its just shit pulled out of their asses.

Just let the mods do their jobs. They do ban insiders if it gets really bad.
 

kyser73

Member
I just keep thinking 'If only Mort had done the most basic fact-check of contacting Col Rogers to confirm what he was writing was true.' all of this could have been avoided.

Still, that's the difference between actual news journos and twitter/forum writers. Actual journos never allow themselves to become the story.
 

Fangrim

Member
Damn!

Insiders are dropping fast these days! Only one left soon is MisterX's insider. (I know, I know... - couldn't resist ;o)

Aaaand back to topic:

Insider stuff is tricky business I guess, and I wouldn't want to be one, ever. I love reading stuff behind the scenes, but sometimes I feel it gets a little too personal. In this case, if someone is fired or leaves a company, for whatever reason, I think it should be up to them to explain and clarify, if they feel the need.

They shouldn't have to defend themselves against insiders who posts false information - GAF isn't the National Enquirer or TMZ.

Props to GAF for reacting fast and decisively though.

Best wishes to you, your son and your family Col! And my deepest respect to you for clarifying your situation, at a great personal expense.
 
Honestly, though there is obviously an important lesson to be learned about when it is and isn't appropriate to post insider (or "insider" if you prefer) information, I feel like some of the conclusions being drawn miss the forest for the trees in terms of understanding what the actual concerns are with these mythical figures. In terms of the "I have managed to procure information that isn't known by the general public and I want to share it, what do I do?" question, Nirolak covered that pretty well earlier in the thread:

The goal here isn't to ban people from posting rumors, it's to get people to think about what they're posting and not just regurgitate anything they hear.

For example, here are some simple guidelines that make a rumor posting vastly better:

1.) Generally speaking, do not post negative personal rumors about staff on GAF, and by that I mean things like someone getting fired or forced out or whatever. If you feel strongly about your information, e-mail a site like Kotaku or Polygon with your evidence and let them handle getting additional confirmation and also commentary from the person the rumor is about, and decide whether or not it's worth posting. Now, if it's something like "Oh yeah, they left to found an indie studio, get excited!", I'm not really concerned about that, but strive to not do anything libelous or disrespectful.

2.) In case this isn't clear, it is okay to post rumors about a bunch of people being laid off (not fired, but explicitly laid off) from a studio. We have allowed this in the past and will continue to do so in the future. Please really try to make sure you're certain about this first though. Similarly, if you see a bunch of staff members mentioning they were laid off on twitter, obviously that's fine to post about.

Now, for rumors that aren't about staff:

3.) Never overplay your hand. Only share what you know, and if you wish to make any additional speculation, clearly mark it as speculation. Make sure to state your level of certainty about the core rumor as well. If you've heard that something "has a chance of happening", it's totally different than hearing that it "will happen". This also applies if different parts of the rumor have different levels of credibility. For example, if you've heard that Naughty Dog is definitely making a space shooter and heard that it might have a budget nearing $75 million, make sure that you present the budget as a less certain fact than the game existing. You should explicitly make these kinds of distinctions to the best of your ability.

4.) Ask yourself "Would the person who told me this actually know this information?" Let's say you have a rumor about a game having multiplayer. If your source is a QA person working on that product, they probably do know that information. Let's say your rumor is that a senior staff member was fired (which you shouldn't be posting anyway). If your source is a QA person at a 300+ person studio, chances are they actually don't know that for certain. If your source is an external QA person who doesn't even work at the studio, you should be extremely skeptical of the rumor even if you personally trust the person, since they could easily be hearing gossip that was presented to them as fact.

5.) Ask yourself "Does this rumor make sense?" If your rumor is that Naughty Dog is making an iOS game about farting cats, even if your source is someone at the studio, you might want to think if they're playing a joke on you. Game studios generally aren't water tight, especially if you know what information you are looking for. Check their job postings and public statements and linkedin resumes, and see if that adds up with the information you've heard. A rumor sprung up that Visceral was making a Battlefield title. It was really easy for me to find buckets full of information supporting this. Chances are you can find at least one thing confirming your rumor before you bother to post it, even if you don't share what that thing is in order to protect your source. There are obviously rumors where this isn't true, but it may be worth noting in your post that you couldn't find external evidence confirming or even hinting at this.

6.) Before you hit post, ask yourself one last time "After checking all this information, do I actually believe this, or at least find it notably plausible?" Chances are that if you've completed the previous steps, by this point you do, but it's worth checking one last time and deciding if you want to do a bit more research first, especially if it's something farfetched.

I included that in its entirety because I think it's worth reading if you haven't already if you're perhaps confused that we are now encouraging people to grab their pitchforks and chase out all insiders. We aren't.

Honestly -- from my perspective -- the problems with this episode started even before Col Rodgers registered here and explained the unfortunate circumstances surrounding his son's health that necessitated his departure (that he should have never had to clarify to begin with). Let's for the sake of argument assume that the information in mortimer's post was rock solid. Col got the boot because he couldn't competently manage the project (again, I'm playing devil's advocate as that clearly wasn't the case). Why did this information need to be divulged? Why was it so important that Rodgers needed to be thrown under the bus?

I think examining this question leads to my biggest concern about the reliability of this type of information. Was there hyperbole worth addressing in regards to analysis about the changes going on at Sony's studios? Sure. But an eagerness to compile quickly a list of unverified facts to appear as the only sane person in an insane world of know-nothings who are spreading FUD about a game company -- all while spreading FUD about people involved with that company -- is extremely problematic. There were some truths in his post. But he vastly overplayed his hand. And why? Because people were wrong on the internet! They were saying bad things about a giant corporation and that needed to be addressed, even at the expense of throwing high ranking employees under the bus.

Sometimes, there is general confusion out there because people just don't have enough information to draw the right conclusions. It's understandable when someone who has that information wants to share it. I'm not a cynical person that thinks that every person who posts insider information is starved for attention and wants to be an internet superstar. I'm sure most of the time it's simply the case that they think they're being helpful. But in circumstances like this, it's important to consider are you really being helpful? What good are you really accomplishing with what you're about to share?
 
I really don't mean to sound like an arse, but could you please give me some examples of what Mort has got right? People keep saying it but I haven't seen examples and I am not really familiar with Mort's history. Again I am not doubting he had leaks, just curious of what they were?
-PS Meeting line-up: Cerny, DriveClub, Killzone, Infamous
-R&C Into the Nexus
-R&C Into the Nexus PS3 only
-DriveClub getting delayed
-Going against all other insiders and insisting PS4 won't release in October
-Some things related to VR I think

Just from the top of my head. I'm sure there is more.
 

Arkam

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Which makes it even more important for untrained insiders to be aware of the difference between gossip about products and gossip about people's lives and careers.

If only the "trained" insiders* could have the that same tact.
Pot, I'd like to introduce you to the Kettle.
 
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