Dr. Kitty Muffins
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I don't know about the inferior exclusives bit when discussing the 360. Aside from Uncharted, I didn't much care for many of the exclusives for the PS3. I got that system mainly for Uncharted and Japanese titles.
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PlayStation 4 Sales Surpass 7.0 Million Units (April 6th), 20.5M Software (April 13)
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I don't know about the inferior exclusives bit when discussing the 360. Aside from Uncharted, I didn't much care for many of the exclusives for the PS3. I got that system mainly for Uncharted and Japanese titles.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
But the PS3 outsold the X360, did it not?
EGOMON
Member
oops yeah 9.5M, E3 is in the 2nd week of June
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Worldwide yes, but just barely and it took the PS3's whole friggin lifecycle to do it.
Pre console launch: "Devs aren't going to use the extra power of the PS4. It's going to be on parity with Xbone versions"
Post launch: "Omg you can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p when far away. See this stupid chart I have?"
Better stop bro
This is more a parallel to the early parts of the gen and NPD threads.
Yup
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Sony deserves the success they are having. I'm enjoying my PS4 so much.
I got one for Uncharted, Killzone 2, Valkyrie Chronicles and Ni No Kuni. The rest of the library was worthless for me. Alan Wake on 360 on the other hand... :antonio:
I got one for Uncharted, Killzone 2, Valkyrie Chronicles and Ni No Kuni. The rest of the library was worthless for me. Alan Wake on 360 on the other hand... :antonio:
What metric would anybody use except worldwide?
Unless you are talking about Capcom games, most of those Japanese titles were exclusives too. I don't see the difference between first and second party exclusives. Both are tied to 1 system.
Mass Effect
Member
god I hope you're trying to be funny, because if not...
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Yup. This is correct and I'm one of those who bought it because BF4 on PS3-360 was not worth it. On PS4 runs like a dream, plays like a wonder and 64 fucking players! If they could only fix some of the lag issues...
Of course worldwide, its about the total amounts.
Also lets not forget the ps3 had a bad start and price and was a year later than the 360 and still has surpassed it.
Imagine if ps4 had a years headstart this time....
psn
Member
Never heard of it.
I guess the wii is not really comparable to both of them. In this example.
Most of the polish live by me in the uk and there's none on display in the shops by me. Mystery solved.
Unknown One
Member
Took forever to close a 3-8 million gap. The gap will grow for the PS4.
SwiftDeath
Member
At the current rate of growth I could see a gap of 5M between the two by the end of the year alone. It really depends on how both sell of course but PS4 at 13.5M - 14M by end of year and XB1 at 8.5M - 9M doesn't seem impossible
gundamkyoukai
Member
At the rate PS4 going i can see them selling past 13.5 -14 million easy .
To me it depends on how much Sony can stock up for nov and dec .
Your posts are pointless. Unless you're going to single out individuals.
Makes sense that it took it a while though, it was launched over a year later than Xbox 360 was, not to mention its initial price.
Did that guy ever come back?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Yes, but that was Sony's fault for launching the PS3 late and overpriced.
This is relevant, because Sony only makes money for the consoles sold in US.
I agree. Just imagine what would've happened if Xbox 360 didn't either have that year head start, or the $200 price advantage over PS3. PS3 would've absolutely demolished Xbox 360 in sales way before E3 2010 or before 2013.
The Playstation brand is still very strong over the Xbox brand, especially outside of the U.S. This time around, PS4 is guaranteed to demolish Xbox One in sales as a whole.
Appollowexx
Member
Thoughts on my sales predictions? Reasonable?
E3 (June) - 9 mil
Now supply is finally meeting demand I think a million for both April + May is likely.
September - 11 mil
The summer months are much slower and this will reflect on PS4 sales, although I believe momentum will carry respectable sales over until Destiny launches.
December (end of) - 14-15 mil
With big games like Destiny, Batman, The Order, DriveClub, Call of Duty and possibly Uncharted, not to mention the christmas push I can see Sony hitting between 14-15 million by the end of December.
E3 (June) - 9 mil
Now supply is finally meeting demand I think a million for both April + May is likely.
September - 11 mil
The summer months are much slower and this will reflect on PS4 sales, although I believe momentum will carry respectable sales over until Destiny launches.
December (end of) - 14-15 mil
With big games like Destiny, Batman, The Order, DriveClub, Call of Duty and possibly Uncharted, not to mention the christmas push I can see Sony hitting between 14-15 million by the end of December.
EGOMON
Member
PS3*
But was it really overpriced? at that time PS3 had advanced techs; built-in Wireless adapter, rechargeable battery controllers and Blu-Ray Drive i mean sure it was expensive but i think the hardware inside justify the cost.
Edit: am not talking if its worth it or the value proposition just pure hardware tech vs cost
Thanks, removed his avatar so probably why I haven't noticed him around.
Graphics Horse
Member
Q4 should be 5 million at least, bad sign for consoles if it's not.
It was not overpriced for the technology inside; it was overpriced for what consumers were willing to pay for a videogame console. I mean they could include a nuclear reactor inside every PS3 and charge 500 million dollars to play it, but who would buy it? Overpriced.
funkystudent
Member
I wonder if they will go for a 10 million shipped announcement at E3 or stick to sold numbers.
Oh god. E3 is going to be the great return of the 15 minute Sony E3 Sales Chart segment isnt it?
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
Yeah PS3. Sorry for the typo, will correct.
The price may have been justified, but the system was built too expensive.
EGOMON
Member
Acquiescence
Member
I think you're pretty on the money there. 15 million by the end of the year definitely seems doable, what with there being the usual influx of AAA games released in the fall season. Uncharted 4 won't be out this year, but the likes of Destiny, Arkham Knight, AssCree Unity and The Order will help shift a whole lot of units and then some.
No problem with buying PS4 in Poland:
Pic done yesterday.
send those to Germany ASAP!
With games like MLB 14: The Show, the exclusive advertising of Watch Dogs on PS4, along with The Last of Us Remastered, PS4 will definitely get a much bigger boost in sales for May & June.
geordiemp
Member
Not yet ...we have heard of many countries having shortages of Ps4 from GAF posters such as Sweden etc
Sony will know how much they have sent to each country and size of backlogs / demand...Think they can ship what they make easily in 2014...but they may go all over the place...
iceatcs
Junior Member
If they willing show the other systems in the chart. Like Nintendo used to with the finance report. It would be great for sales age.
MMaRsu
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Thunder Monkey
Banned
Man I hope PS4 sales don't start to slow down until next year.
We really need at least one huge seller this generation. One is doing pretty much what I've expected. Losing MS largest market while remaining competitive, but MS never really had a chance to be the worldwide market leader.
And another part of the current argument I don't get is why people are saying PS4 doesn't have games. It has games. Yes they've tended to be up-ported titles, but it has games. The same games that make up a chunk of every years top sellers. Not only that but they look a hell of a lot better on PS4 than they do anywhere else, but of course PC.
Coupled with Sony's inhouse teams and it should be plainly obvious that PS4 is selling for the same reason that any console sells (yes even Wii) it has the games.
We really need at least one huge seller this generation. One is doing pretty much what I've expected. Losing MS largest market while remaining competitive, but MS never really had a chance to be the worldwide market leader.
And another part of the current argument I don't get is why people are saying PS4 doesn't have games. It has games. Yes they've tended to be up-ported titles, but it has games. The same games that make up a chunk of every years top sellers. Not only that but they look a hell of a lot better on PS4 than they do anywhere else, but of course PC.
Coupled with Sony's inhouse teams and it should be plainly obvious that PS4 is selling for the same reason that any console sells (yes even Wii) it has the games.
It wasn't Sony's "fault", it was their decision. Not exactly the same thing. Catching up to a competitor that launches a year earlier requires doing measurably better; if they performed just as well as Xbox 360, they'd have never caught up.
Seeing that PS3 ended up exceeding, and not merely catching, Xbox 360 sales despite having a full year less on the market implies that, launch-aligned, PS3 sales were better paced.
I believe it was 1.5 years late in Europe/ UK. In the summer after the NA launch, if I recall. And Sony still caught up/ exceeded the 360. The PS brand simply has worldwide appeal. Xbox never did. They captured America last gen because of the price-point (lower) and a head start with consumers and developers. They don't have any of those advantages today, and I would bet only the Xbox faithful are purchasing the system now. Which, as we've seen from TF's lack of any real hardware boost, is a well that's drying up. X1 sales are going to plummet in the summer. Particularly when - as others have indicated - Watchdogs and nearly every other multiplatform games is being showcased on the PS4, first and foremost.
Its quite incredible how much Sony learned from last gen, compared to how much MS shit the bed and took not a single lesson from their competitor's stumbles to heart. Sheer arrogance on the scale of 2006 Sony, yet somehow greater because MS came into this gen with a textbook case - step by bloody step - on how to fuck up your brand.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Well it worked Statham, you got a rise out of them.
brownfedora
Member
Forget cross-gen. I want devs to drop xbone so we can all re-live the glory days of the PS2 generation.