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OreShika: Tainted Bloodlines' performance will influence SCE's conclusion about JRPGs
- Thread starter Takao
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Not sure what Sony's expectations are but the original sold 94,085 in it's first week.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111116053/
It came 3rd in that week.
http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111116053/
It came 3rd in that week.
Soul Sacrifice and Freedom Wars.
It was a remake, and it clearly sold well enough to make this one happen. Here's some Famitsu data:
PS - 137,559
PSP- 134,532
I think those numbers are obtainable on Vita.
I don't know where part of this game screenshot screams monster hunting game. Yes, it is traditional turn based RPG with Rogue Legacy mechanic.
publicpwnerer
Member
I'm confused about what the hell is going on.
So this JRPG is an upcoming Vita title...and the success of future JRPG's is reliant upon it's success?
Is there anything more to go on, other than just a single picture of it's aesthetic?
So this JRPG is an upcoming Vita title...and the success of future JRPG's is reliant upon it's success?
Is there anything more to go on, other than just a single picture of it's aesthetic?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Wouldn't it be better just to look at the success of the genre overall, instead of just looking at their own products, especially something niche like Oreshika. There is a thirst for good Jrpg's WW, thats why FF7 and FF9 have never been out of the top10 PS1 PSN games.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Yeah I'm not actually into Hunting Games so that's why I was asking. We've already got Freedom Wars, Touikden, Soul Sacrifice, Soul Sacrifice Delta, Ragnarok Odyssey, Ragnarok Odyssey Ace, and perhaps God Eater 2 soon. I don't want anymore D:
Ninokuni is probably best experienced in a google image search.
DangerMouse
Member
This. It's not even on the same level as Capcom.
Uhm, hopefully they didn't invest much in it then, because this game probably won't sell a lot of units...
It's just not a game for the masses, so if they want to sell some 100k's, they can stop producing JRPGs already.
Some publishers don't have reasonable expectations for sales of some games, I hope SCEJA isn't one of them.
It's just not a game for the masses, so if they want to sell some 100k's, they can stop producing JRPGs already.
Some publishers don't have reasonable expectations for sales of some games, I hope SCEJA isn't one of them.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Hunting games pay bills, so until they either stop doing so or something else becomes equally profitable, you probably won't see them going away
Why would you separately count updated version? And since you post a lot in PSN thread Flandy, I suppose you already know what this game is since it's more than once Takao and other users post screenshots of Oreshika. None of them, especially the quite lacking cover screams hunting action game.
Yes, you are correct. Shouldn't have used the words "dev team" as Sony's role in this case is a funder/publisher for the Wild Arms franchise. The point still stands though.
I think we won't see a God Eater 2 localization soon given Sony will be publishing Freedom Wars in the west (same dev, same genre).
That isn't that many games tbh, that is like 2 a year, and this is the vita's 3rd year. You even listed games that are the the original plus expanded content. It is kind of hard to argue that 2 games from a genre a year is an overabundance.
Doesn't Delta have like an entirely new story and a lot of new content? I just threw in Ace because I had included Delta
I'm not following the game. Even if I did Takao screenshots (which I probably did) I would have forgotten what it even looked like since I'm not following this game
Maybe it just seems like a lot to me since I'm not a fan of these games
Everyone buy this please
Day one for me, for sure. I'll tell my Vitabros.
While I'm glad they're making this and bringing it over, I don't think they should use a game with themes like this to influence more games in the genre. I'll be happy if it does better than I'm expecting, but I don't think it'll do more than 150k on Vita in Japan (optimistically) and it'll be lucky to reach half that here.
Does Media Vision tie into this? And how involved were they over Media Vision for Wild Arms?
Not that I wouldn't want the best regardless, but it'd be the difference between more Wild Arms or more Legends of Dragoon. Or just an Oreshika 3, whichever.
Doesn't Delta have like an entirely new story and a lot of new content? I just threw in Ace because I had included Delta
Yes it does.
Anyway. Id rather stop talking about hunting games. Oreshika is nothing like one of those.
encephalon
Member
This probably has something to do with it being a sequel to a cult classic and at one time one of the highest selling PS1 classics in the archives in Japan, but being that it's on Vita ... who knows how this will turn out.
I have yet to attempt to delve into the PSP remake of the original I bought this year. It looks like I'm really going to have to read into things to figure out what exactly is going on with the game's crazy mechanics and flow.
I think Yosp's point about Japanese developers making Japanese games is a point well taken here though. Western games like Call of Duty, The Last of Us and Grand Theft Auto have been doing better in Japan recently and they are most assuredly western games. Embrace what you know, what's familiar. It also helps that Vita is doing the best out of any of its regions in Japan at the moment.
ShroudOfFate
Member
Okay, so at this point I know two things about this game:
1. It's gorgeous.
2. I'll be buying it.
Off to Google to find out the rest!
1. It's gorgeous.
2. I'll be buying it.
Off to Google to find out the rest!
Any chance we get it on PSN?
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
The demo's on PSN now, so there should be a digital release.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well I'm getting it when it comes out here so a +1 for me on my end. I wonder if they're looking at global sales or just domestic? The way Japanese companies decide things they seems to prioritize domestic sales.
The Wild Arms comment was added by ATXAlchemy. It's his opinion, and not what was written in the blog post. He originally had the Japanese text, and his translation in quote tags with the WA quip outside of it. Since you can't double quote, I just copy/pasted the translation, and the formatting made it look like it was part of the blog post. I've edited the OP to make note of that.
Oh, and I just noticed that I got the game's subtitle wrong ... I'll PM a mod about that.
Here's two previous threads on the game:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=752387
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=776810
All Vita games are released on PSN.
Oh, and I just noticed that I got the game's subtitle wrong ... I'll PM a mod about that.
Here's two previous threads on the game:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=752387
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=776810
All Vita games are released on PSN.
In addition to this, I think it's mandated by Sony that all Vita games that come out physically ALSO come out digitally. May be the same thing on PS4 too with the exception of stuff like Skylanders.
Well, the primary audience for JRPGs is generally Japan and the PS4 numbers are tepid there, so there probably wasn't much hope short of Oreshika somehow being the next FFVII against all logic.
Sorry, I was wrong. See my edit.
Sony was handling the publishing/funding of the Wild Arms games for their platform. They also own the IP for all media related to it. It's unlikely we'll see a Wild Arms from Media Vision since they should be busy developing a Digimon game for PSV. I don't know for sure how big the company is though.
immortal-joe
Member
Well the Vita had the "test" game for nearly every fucking genre by now; might as well call this the "jrpg" test (even though we've got other jrpgs to play).
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
JPSN without a doubt. Seeing how devs too have been doing PSN exclusive DLC for pre-orders. Would not be surprised if that happened with this title also.
Not exactly seeing how the JRPGs that have been released on the Vita are doing decent. Not to mention the machine itself is turning into a JRPG platform. Its not like AAA million sellers, but doing well enough that more devs are slowly climbing aboard the SS Vita. Its basically a huge migration from the PSP as thats being phased out for the most part. Steady flow of Vita titles coming out in the upcoming month.
Btw I demand that good sir Shouta do the import OT for this game. Since he seems to be the one with the most knowledge about the series on GAF.
Nightengale
Member
Well, if Soul Sacrifice was an indication, SCEJA doesn't have unrealistic expectations to their sales targets, so let's hope it remains true.
Callibretto
Member
Wait, didn't we already have rumor about secret ps4 jrpg in development? What happrn if oreshika didn't meet expectations? Are they really going to cancel the ps4 jrpg?
Could be worse, could be a PS4 JRPG in Japan deciding the fate of PS4 JRPGS.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I wouldnt put too much unrealistic expectations like that. At least make the cutoff point 40 USD. Since 30 is a bit low personally. Esp if its a title that you can get a pretty good amount of game time out of with the genre Freedom Wars is a part of.
JordanN
Banned
At least it could have had high production values with native 1080p visuals.
Dunno about this game. It just feels bland to me. Where's the marketing value in it?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Use your heads SCEJ. At least put it on the PS3 and not some dead system like the Vita, unless your only talking about Japan in which case your missing a notable market.
PSP remake sells ~100K first week iirc. Most likely they may expect 200K LTD for the sequel.
immortal-joe
Member
*glass half-full mode activate*
It could be that their expectations for this title are actually within reason, and they just want to see if there's evidence of a larger potential there if they get more popular jrpg properties onto the system.
It could be that their expectations for this title are actually within reason, and they just want to see if there's evidence of a larger potential there if they get more popular jrpg properties onto the system.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
I'm buying a Vita 2000 and this is one of the reasons, the game looks fantastic, Day 1.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Eh... Vita digital sales are fucking strong according to Sony and other developers.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
So is this regarding JUST RPGs on the Vita or PS4 included? Because, it's not like everybody who owns a PS4 has a Vita. Might wanna try a title with more exposure than JUST a Vita one before decided a definitive fate regarding a certain genre.