I don't think that's the case.
It actually implies upgrade will cost more if anything.
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PS+ version of Driveclub will have 5 tracks (1 country) and 10 cars.
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Haloid1177
Banned
Delaying a launch game a year and then giving us this amount of content is silly to me. My hard drive space is more valuable than the little amount of content the PS+ version offers.
mangochutney
Member
The problem is we've never had a full car and track list, either now or for the once-hoped PS4 launch version.
Remember that quote was from last year, when they were still planning on releasing with the console.
So, at the time it may very well have been the case that there were not thousands of cars and hundreds of tracks and so the PS+ was only missing a few cars and tracks. But now, with their delay, they may have had the time to add more tracks and cars and kept the PS+ edition the same and therefore isn't only missing a few items.
We will never know the answer to the question though, because we will never know how much content the game was going to ship with, had it made November 2013.
MrFortyFive
Member
About what I expected. I'd rather they include all the game modes than lots of cars and tracks I can't do anything with. I feel like I would enjoy full game modes with 5 tracks and 10 cars a lot more than (just for example) 50 tracks and 100 cars where I could only play a time trial.
Either way their promises were mostly vague and open to interpretation. With a full retail release of the same game simultaneously I don't really understand some of the vitriol in this thread. since we're getting this in addition to everything else we get for paying a relatively small monthly fee, I don't see it as a huge loss. It seems to me like this is just Sony's way of testing what they can give plus members and still keep them happy and a possible test of ways to boost sales of full games rather than some gift to the fans. If you don't like it, don't pay for the service. Simple as that.
Either way their promises were mostly vague and open to interpretation. With a full retail release of the same game simultaneously I don't really understand some of the vitriol in this thread. since we're getting this in addition to everything else we get for paying a relatively small monthly fee, I don't see it as a huge loss. It seems to me like this is just Sony's way of testing what they can give plus members and still keep them happy and a possible test of ways to boost sales of full games rather than some gift to the fans. If you don't like it, don't pay for the service. Simple as that.
Hey man, then don't use the game to sell PS plus.
What demo offers all of the game modes? Everything but free race or quick race is usually grayed out. This is far more than a demo.
That said, Evolution did misspeak when they said the Plus version would be missing a few tracks and cars. I'm guessing that once it was delayed the Plus version got smaller in scope when it comes to assets.
That said, Evolution did misspeak when they said the Plus version would be missing a few tracks and cars. I'm guessing that once it was delayed the Plus version got smaller in scope when it comes to assets.
Bluekaveli
Member
All the ignorant people complaining.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
For reference:-
Burnout revenge demo
http://youtu.be/bg_fqRvR6sA
NFSHP demo
http://youtu.be/e1dMgmRT9tY
NFS: The Run Demo
http://youtu.be/P1g0woiQyio
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed Demo
http://youtu.be/r2CUJU6qHI0
I'm sorry. Calling this a demo is ridiculous and stupid.
Expecting a full retail title day and date with release on a brand new console is stupid.
Call it scaled down, fine, but if you honestly believed that even the original plan was the full game "minus a few cars" I have bridge to sell you.
Burnout revenge demo
http://youtu.be/bg_fqRvR6sA
NFSHP demo
http://youtu.be/e1dMgmRT9tY
NFS: The Run Demo
http://youtu.be/P1g0woiQyio
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed Demo
http://youtu.be/r2CUJU6qHI0
I'm sorry. Calling this a demo is ridiculous and stupid.
Expecting a full retail title day and date with release on a brand new console is stupid.
Call it scaled down, fine, but if you honestly believed that even the original plan was the full game "minus a few cars" I have bridge to sell you.
MarauderShields
Member
They always made it sound like much much more than a demo. Give them shit for misleading people.
TheKastorian
Member
You will get three months of PS+ with the purchase though.
this sum up this thread nicely.
I would hardly say expecting the developers and Sony to live up to previous promises regarding the content of the PS+ Edition is entitled.
Previously the game director stated the differences were few, and the plat was fully achievable on the PS+ edition. Nothing wrong in questioning why this has changed.
It is sickening...Just buy the full game i don't understand the griping at all. I think they are doing us a solid for even making a PS+ version
Think he posted somewhere that PS+ users get a discount. With that quote he could just mean that PS+ + Upgrade fee > Blu-ray.
not_so_special
Banned
it was expected to be that ..a sample of the full game..people getting mad about this is ridiculous
i payed 40 euros for a year of games..its circa 4 bucks per month for 2 ps3 games 2 vita games and 1 ps4 game...four bucks a month...and people are getting mad? LOL
ComputerBlue
Member
I don't know what people were expecting, but it's a decent version considering it'l be free for plus members. I think they said it'l have it's own platinum trophy as well, which is good for trophy hunters.
Galactic Barret
Member
A few assets are missing could be easier interpreted as its missing content in general: cars, tracks, spoilers, rims, etc...
When you say a few cars and tracks are missing without the modifier of assets, it makes it seem as if less thing are excluded.
Thats the last I'll speak of that, for the sake of the thread.
ShogunDarius
Member
is it so hard for some of you to read the OP, what they said last year and whats been said now differs
For the retail game to be 'the best value', PS+ and upgrading needs to be more than $60, or still less content than the disc.
NullPointer
Member
PS+ set up these expectations by offering up full major releases on PS3, and not even older titles at that. Big budget stuff from the big names that gets a lot of attention and instant hype.
PS4 hasn't been able to match up with those blockbuster entries for a variety of reasons, and has been hit and miss with the smaller titles made available, depending upon tastes. That mixed with PS+ now being mandatory for just about anybody looking to play online and you're eventually going to run into this disconnect of expectation and reality. I wouldn't call it entitlement though.
But then again I never knew how this PS+ version of DriveClub was ever really going to work - providing *almost* the full game (with an upgrade option) seemed like a strange way to position it.
Megatron
Member
I guess so. If you haven't read the thread at all and have only a vague understanding of what "entitlement" means then sure, that picture would sum it up.
this sum up this thread nicely.
BLESS SONY for putting content / a large demo on their subscription service.
Hoho for breakfast
Member
I'm not a fan of racing games (or more precisely racing games like this), so this is more than enough for me.
Having said that, Evolution Studios has said the following - "You can earn the platinum trophy in the PS+ Edition, remember its the full game minus a few cars/tracks", and "The only difference between the PS Plus edition and the boxed retail is that there's a slightly scaled down version of content"...
So:
1. You can earn the Platinum
2. full game minus a few cars/tracks
3. only difference is that it's slightly scaled down
Those are big promises and I hope they aren't full of it. It's honestly pretty hard to believe those 3 statements. If that's not what is being delivered, that's not what should have been said. We'll see.
Having said that, Evolution Studios has said the following - "You can earn the platinum trophy in the PS+ Edition, remember its the full game minus a few cars/tracks", and "The only difference between the PS Plus edition and the boxed retail is that there's a slightly scaled down version of content"...
So:
1. You can earn the Platinum
2. full game minus a few cars/tracks
3. only difference is that it's slightly scaled down
Those are big promises and I hope they aren't full of it. It's honestly pretty hard to believe those 3 statements. If that's not what is being delivered, that's not what should have been said. We'll see.
Wickerbasket
Member
Yeah, if people's expectations are wrong then it's purely because of how Sony's PR were pushing this game with Plus. They should have been clear from the very beginning if it was just going to be a demo.
And I don't know where people get off on using the word entitled as a bad thing; subscribers were promised one thing and are now getting something else. People are entitled to complain when they pay a monthly fee for a service.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I think the more worrying thing is whether or not Driveclub on disc will be as barebones as Forza 5.
Goldrusher
Member
We've seen 5 countries so far: Chili, Norway, Scotland, India, Canada.
So you're getting at most 20% of the full game.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You two almost always distinctly troll Sony threads.
This is okay given it's free to Plus members.
You guys should let me on that free PS+. Because I paid good money for my subscription.
Also that guy on the last page going on about entitlement... Come on now, really?
Yes, and do you realize how long after the launch of the PS3 that full major releases were offered?
I wouldn't say people are entitled, just ignorant.
velociraptor
Junior Member
Honestly, this sounds just like Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Which isn't a bad thing by any means. Besides, you're getting the game for free. Y'all need a reality check.
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
The whinging in this thread is fucking hilarious.
Fully featured, but with scaled back content. That's been the deal from the start. What has changed?
Fully featured, but with scaled back content. That's been the deal from the start. What has changed?
Bluekaveli
Member
A few assets those few are cars and tracks. Done, thread over.
Offering a PS+ version of the game with almost all of the retail game's content for free didn't really make much sense to me.
This makes sense, though.
If you're interested in DC, you might as well buy the retail game. The PS+ version is just a try before you buy freebie Sony is giving you lot. Some people in this thread are being ridiculous to be honest, you would think Sony is charging you for this.
This makes sense, though.
If you're interested in DC, you might as well buy the retail game. The PS+ version is just a try before you buy freebie Sony is giving you lot. Some people in this thread are being ridiculous to be honest, you would think Sony is charging you for this.I agree. And as people have pointed out, it's a pretty hefty demo if you are going to call it that. Most racing car demos give you one or two tracks and a car (why do they need to give you more for a demo? I usually find for a demo that is enough to decide if I want the game or not, you really don't need all the cars or more than one track to really demo a racing car to get the feel if you like it or not. So getting 10 different cars and several tracks is definitely more than a demo).
Honestly, it's "free", it's giving you 10 cars to play with and 5 tracks that apparently they'll have different configurations for you to race, I could probably enjoy it as is for a free game. And if it really is that fun and I want more (probably would buy it more for the extra cars than anything) I can buy it (and it will be a discounted price. ANd then I'll own the full game, PS+ still valid or expired, for cheaper than if I didn't have PS+).
Honestly, I'd say what they are giving you is probably at least worth 20 dollars (and it would be a very high quality game for 20 bux, just limited) which is about the value of games they've been offering on PS+ for PS4.
Wickerbasket
Member
It's not free; I pay a subscription.
I'll be pissed if they think they can start giving me demos as my instant game library.
BibiMaghoo
Member
To me, that implies that the disc version will have more than what they consider 'the full game'. Not that the upgrade will cost more.
Huh? He also implicitly said "a few cars and tracks".
Correct:Offering a PS+ version of the game with almost all of the retail game's content for free didn't really make much sense to me.
This makes sense, though.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/04/30/driveclub-update-from-evolution-studios/#sf2767268
And that would be fine, I don't think the amount of content is the problem, it's the disingenuous claims initially. If it had been called DriveClub Prologue, there wouldn't be any complaints.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Not surprised so not disappointed. Extended demo basically.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I think all the tizzy is due to the platinum trophy lol. Whodathunkit?
Buying regardless, more than a demo, not a full game. I can live with that being a PS+ offering.
Buying regardless, more than a demo, not a full game. I can live with that being a PS+ offering.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
What part of free to Plus members did I mince?
Brutalitops
Banned
Still sounds better than every month of PS Plus so far for PS4, save for maybe Resogun
Galactic Barret
Member
My absolute first thought.