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IGN Rumor: Nintendo Revealing New Hardware at E3 [Up: MCV + Videogamer]

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KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Lets face it, the writing is on the wall for the WIIU and Nintendo knows it . The PS4 Blew bast their install base in a few months it really makes no sense for Nintendo to expect things to get better. So it does make sense for Nintendo to react now if they are serious.

That being said , (and assuming that this is real) for the new hardware to mean anything it would need to have minimum power >= XB1 but would likely need to be >PS4 if they want to truly be taken seriously. Seeing how every news story contains the importance or lack thereof 1080P/60FPS it would be a waste of time to release new hardware that could not meet this challenge in every title out today.

I personally would like to see Nintendo grow some balls , I haven't owned a Nintendo console since the SNES and unless they do something bold I likely never will again.

So you would pay at list $399 for a Nintendo console while you don't like Nintendo games anymore? Why?
 

neptunes

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These rumors are reminiscent of the rumors around Nintendo's DS, the whole 2 screens and "Third Pillar" thing threw many people for a loop.
 
These rumors are reminiscent of the rumors around Nintendo's DS, the whole 2 screens and "Third Pillar" thing threw many people for a loop.

There's zero details apart from Videogamer linking it to nonsense specs.

Now... Iwata has talked openly that they are working on a 'brother and sister' next gen handheld and console, so it could be that something from this strategy gets announced, but it will be a coincidence if it matches any of that Fusion rubbish.
 
Personally I think Nintendo pulled the plug on Wii U production on Jan 1st, and they have about 6 million boxes in storage they need to get rid of somehow, which, if things don't improve, could last them a few years, but they'll be hoping that MK and Smash shift a bunch.

Maybe they will release a discless version with an hdd in time for Christmas. Not necessarily announced at e3 though.

Nintendo never discard anything. They will obviously sell them us rebranded, eventually at ductaped pairs like they did with Wii/Gc.

Joking aside, iirc Nintendo declared interest in building upon WiiU's architecture for they future hardware convergence plans. What we could see this year could be the portable machine, hardware/software unveiling with next spring launch, which would make a lot of sense to me. Home machine launching Xmas 2015 would make sense too, imho.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
Whats QoL?

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/library/events/140130/04.html

This time, we decided to redefine our notion of entertainment as something that improves people’s quality of life in enjoyable ways, and take a step forward in expanding our business areas.

Today I would like to limit my presentation to the general direction of our new business, but I plan to announce more details within 2014. I then plan to talk about its specific features and a clearer vision of what we really mean by the term “non-wearable.”
This new business will be launched during the fiscal year ending March 2016, which begins in April 2015.
 
Oh so it's going to be some sort of gimmicky add-on ala Wii Fit and not an actual console?

:/

It'll be seperate from a game system whatever it is, but not an add-on. Think balance board that doesn't need a Wii, but not that either.
The rumour is not necessarily anything to do with QoL though, I think it might be a bit to early for that.
 

Mr. RHC

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I really hope it's a new console. The WiiU was a bad core concept from the start, it's time to start fresh, start winning people back. At this point they can only do that with a better core concept in a console. It doesn't seem very Nintendo-like to do it so soon though...


This. And last time I checked, people bought consoles for games, especially on the Wii U, so of course every Wii U owner would buy a new console day 1.
 
It's not a next gen successor becauce if it was we'd have a press release statement by now just like with 3DS and Wii U. It said "at E3 we will reveal our next handheld/console" and contained the famous line "to whom it may concern" lol. It's likely a revision or a peripheral but could also be an early look at QoL.

www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323e.pdf
http://kotaku.com/5795241/nintendo-confirms-wii-successor

Investor meeting on Thursday, who knows what's going to happen!!
 
Does anyone remember the Pokemon mini ?

PokemonMini.JPG

I could see Nintendo making something similar again, just with NFC figures as ....analogue sticks ? Like the recent patent suggested.
 
It's not a next gen successor becauce if it was we'd have a press release statement by now just like with 3DS and Wii U. It said "at E3 we will reveal our next handheld/console" and contained the famous line "to whom it may concern" lol. It's likely a revision or a peripheral but could also be an early look at QoL.

www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2010/100323e.pdf
http://kotaku.com/5795241/nintendo-confirms-wii-successor

Please wait until the end of the week, this year's financial briefing hasn't happened yet.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
This. And last time I checked, people bought consoles for games, especially on the Wii U, so of course every Wii U owner would buy a new console day 1.

(edited because it seems that I am misunderstood)

What games will be available on a console announced at E3 and launched in the next year?
 

Effect

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If we do see something I think revisions are highly likely. However I don' think finally seeing the QoL items are out of the question. I've always thought it could very well be more game focused then one assumed. It being a third pillar situation the way the DS was originally billed between the home console and the GBA at the time.

It will be interesting to see if any of this pans out though.
 

Red Mage

Member
Aren't they working on a Pokemon skylander-type thing? Maybe that's what the new patent is for, and what they're going to reveal.
 

Harlock

Member
They need to make compatible with Wii U games. Just imagine how sparse going to be games for a new Nintendo hardware.
 
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qizah

Unconfirmed Member
Watch these journalists just riding off of one another's "sources" as proof and at E3 nothing happens because lolgamejournalism.
 

3bdelilah

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I honestly don't understand there are people who think this'll be a successor to the Wii U. In the long term, they're only going to fuck themselves. They should just ride this train wreck until Sony and Microsoft announce theirs. And then announce an equally powerful console, if not a little more powerful, to pull back the third party support.

That being said, I hope it's QOL related. Or better yet, just a fake rumour all together. I just bought a 3DS XL a month or two ago, so this would be terrible timing, haha. Of course I'm just being selfish here.
 
So you would pay at list $399 for a Nintendo console while you don't like Nintendo games anymore? Why?

I didn't buy a PS4 to play PS4 Exclusives . I bought it to play 3rd party games (which are going to be 99% of my purchases) in the best possible resolution and frame rate, I like Nintendo games just fine but not enough to purchase a console for them. The same reason I jumped from the 360 and will not own an XB1 this generation.

If Nintendo released console hardware which rivaled the PS4 then the 3rd party support would be there and you better believe that I would pay $399 day 1 for it
 

chadboban

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If true it's either going to be a console/handheld revision or a new peripheral. I'm really not expecting a brand new system unless it's the QoL thingy.
 
I doubt it is a new handheld or console, my prediction would be either;

1. Pokemon in the style of Skylanders. Nintendo has said they want to explore NFC options, and Pokemon is the perfect brand. They could even have a battle mode where someone could bring over their Pokemon and challenge yours.

2. Quality of Life - don't know how they'll do it, but they felt it was important enough to bring it up to investors.

3. Hardware revision to the Wii U. The cost has to come down and a great way to do that is to revise the console itself. Doesn't even have to be an commission of the Gamepad, though that would certainly help. if they could release a new version of the Wii U and get it to $199 combined with great new software, then they would be on the road to recovery, just many many miles behind where they want to be.
 

Dryk

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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Announcing a new console this early is suicide. The people that stuck with the Wii U get burnt and won't buy it, the people that avoided the Wii U will hold back even harder because they know if it does badly Nintendo will just kill it.
 

KingSnake

The Birthday Skeleton
I didn't buy a PS4 to play PS4 Exclusives . I bought it to play 3rd party games (which are going to be 99% of my purchases) in the best possible resolution and frame rate, I like Nintendo games just fine but not enough to purchase a console for them. The same reason I jumped from the 360 and will not own an XB1 this generation.

So it would need to be better than PS4, as if it's on par or lower what's the point? And why don't you just buy a PC, if that's you criteria?

If Nintendo released console hardware which rivaled the PS4 then the 3rd party support would be there and you better believe that I would pay $399 day 1 for it

Why? What guarantees that? What guarantee do the 3rd parties have that their game will sell on a new Nintendo hardware?
 

wildfire

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IGN with click bait.

Try reading the OP. IGN talked about it but they never published this so they aren't getting clicks to any article talking about this.

Iwatas statements imply that they plan to reuse the WiiU Architecture in future systems to allow easy cross platform development.

This gives us 3 scenarios:

  • The WiiU architecture will be used in WiiU's successor platform. This does not make sense as the WiiU Hardware is already substantially outdated. Launching a system in 2017 with essentially the same specs would make it hopelessly underpowered to fit the needs at that time (UHD etc), even if overclocked. This would be the fourth generation that uses gamecubes gekko-chip, and i refuse to believe that Nintendo is that ignorant to consumer needs.
  • The WiiU Architecture will be used in the QOL platform. Entirely possible but the platform would than have to be designed in a way that WiiU games can be played easily, thus sporting at least a gamepad which renders this option a bit farfetched. This can not entirely ruled out, as we know nothing about the QOL Platform other than that its not a wearable.
  • The WiiU architecture will be reused in a handheld device.

This last option makes the most sense and I tell you why:

  • Technology has now progressed enough to allow adapting the architecture to handheld format. (See Nvidia's Tegra K1, which seems to be at least on par with the WiiU in terms of power). It is not out of the question that AMD managed to develop a low-cost low-power SOC on some advanced process that would enable the chip to be used in a handheld system.
  • The WiiU was thus purposely designed underpowered with a low clocked CPU to allow this in the future. Nintendo back then did not expect such a backlash to it's lack of power due to experience with the Wii.
  • A high amount of first party games implement off-screen play which would result in games playing not much differently than on a home console. Fonts, HUD etc are already adapted to be readable on smaller screens.
  • When such a handheld launches, there would already be a substantial library of games available, with all the classics like new super mario bros, mario kart and smash bros., thus avoiding a software drought at launch like the 3DS or the WiiU experienced.

In my optinion there are two possble configuration for a portable WiiU:

Nintendo creates a fully portable WiiU handheld, i would call this the DSU.
- Top Screen: 1280 x 720 pixel
- Bottom Screen: 854 x 480 pixel
- Games are download-only and are stored on an SD card.
- System will be able to synchronize with a WiiU Console to transfer save-states, miis etc.

The bottom screen would act essentially the same as WiiUs gamepad screen for games that display unique content.
Not all games would be fully compatible, for example those who need to be played with a Wii remote.

WiiU integrated into a slightly larger version of the gamepad.
  • would work and look the same as the wiiu gamepad, but includes all the hardware
  • software is download only
  • The streaming chip would "stream in reverse" to the TV. Its possible that this would not allow to stream fullhd content due to the wiiU gamepad streamingchips only allowing for 1280x720.
  • The TV would have a small dongle on the HDMI port that receives the gamepad stream.

  • All in all i think the options above are the most plausible scenario if Nintendo indeed announces a new system at E3.
  • Announcing a WiiU Successor is a pipedream. The WiiU has not been long enough on the market and would go against everything Nintendo has done so far.
  • Announcing a 3DS Successor would be weird too as the 3DS has still plenty of lifetime left.
  • It would also be too early to talk about the QOL platform, as Nintendo supposedly only started development on the system in January. No way they have something that can be shown after such a short time.

The other possibilities would of course be the already mentioned simple 3DS redesign and/or gamepad redesign.
If the E3 announcement is not the DSU or the WiiUPad I think Nintendo still should release such a device in the future as it would vastly increase WiiU's user base and give 3rd party developers a compelling incentive to develop WiiU Games...


Nintendo won't redesign the WiiU so all the hardware is in the tablet controller as you suggest in the second idea. The heat this device would be putting out would be harsh and connecting a tablet to your TV and wall socket to keep it running would probably be too off putting to risk selling such a device to users. Nintendo tries to make console gaming as comfortable as possible and this would have the opposite effect.

I do agree with your first idea that they'll make a new handheld. It won't be as powerful as the Wii U due to portability constraints but I think it will be designed to act as a replacement for the tablet controller and Nintendo will begin to sell a skew with out the gamepad on the assumption that this new handheld will be popular enough that everyone will still have the ability to use the second screen for future TV scale games.

With this skew they will drop the price by $80.
 

Yado

Member
I didn't buy a PS4 to play PS4 Exclusives . I bought it to play 3rd party games (which are going to be 99% of my purchases) in the best possible resolution and frame rate, I like Nintendo games just fine but not enough to purchase a console for them. The same reason I jumped from the 360 and will not own an XB1 this generation.

If Nintendo released console hardware which rivaled the PS4 then the 3rd party support would be there and you better believe that I would pay $399 day 1 for it

It really isn't this simple. There are several reasons why Nintendo doesn't get third part support, hardware capability isn't the only one.
 

Majukun

Member
gus,really,no way it's going to be a completely new console,both the 3ds and the wii U are extremely young to be replaced.
it's the QoL platform,a third pillar that will focus on the market of the wii at a more accessible price
 
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