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*Rumor* The Order: 1886 delayed

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Hyunashi

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I'm seeing what the situation is like after E3, their lineup could get better, or worse.

Yea, I could see them announce less because the have a 'big' headliner for the first quarter of next year. The Driveclub delay was annoying, but this apparent one for the Order is even more so. E3 will be interesting to say the least.
 

RetroStu

Banned
what? no it wasn't. It was a disc release. I have it sitting on my shelf

I have it as well but i'm sure retail disks didn't come out at the same time as the digital game. I even remember moaning about it on here and me saying that i wouldn't be able to download the game and how it sucks that i wouldn't be able to play it.
I'm in the UK by the way, could it of been different here?.
 
So basically the most significant first party console game this fall is going to be Smash.

hah! not exclusive since it'll be out on 3DS for months. ;)

But probably i guess. That or SO or Drive Club depending on what floats your boat.

I have it as well but i'm sure retail disks didn't come out at the same time as the digital game. I even remember moaning about it on here and me saying that i wouldn't be able to download the game and how it sucks that i wouldn't be able to play it.
I'm in the UK by the way, could it of been different here?.

Ah maybe it was different there. In the US it was a day one retail in November which was what the NPD list was referring to
 

James Sawyer Ford

Gold Member
True.



Nitpicking, but you left out Quantum Break (eh, if it even makes 2014, which it probably won't), and Halo 2 Anni, if done right, is definitely a heavier hitter than a TLOU revisit. One was a game that completely invented the notion of online gaming, the other is a wonderful game that has an excellent story- but has the disadvantage of being only a year old.

Neither will be "system sellers", but H2A would definitely move more consoles than TLOU.



Why are we bringing NPD into this? (No, really, I haven't read anything but the OP and the last page. Has this been going on? I don't really find it conducive to the thread, but if everyone else is doing it, my bad.) Not that your statement is wrong.

There's no way Quantum Break is making it in 2014, especially with the game just reaching full production.

And I actually believe that TLOU has more "system mover" potential than remakes of decade old titles. Halo fans probably already purchased and lined up for an Xbox One day one. That audience is built in. However, there's probably a decent amount of 360 owners that haven't made the jump to next-gen yet but always wanted to play TLOU.

Regardless, neither is going to be a big system seller. Remakes never are.

I'm only bringing up NPD because that gives us a good indication of what's pushing system sales. Games that sell more tend to also push hardware. CoD probably single handedly sold more 360's than all of the exclusive 360 titles combined.
 
No, it was a retail game.

Actually, NPD announced that it would have been in the top 10 for individual SKU's.

Obviously the game sold well -- I'm not claiming it bombed.

But was it a game changer? No. It had about the same impact as something like the God of War Collection - great for existing owners, and that's about it.

I'd argue that TLOU remake is more important, simply because many potential people picking up a PS4 have never played that game since they were 360 owners. I doubt there's hardly anyone that's going to pick an Xbox One over a PS4 due to Halo remakes, however...the audience for Halo is already baked in.

MS last said that it sold 1.5million. Nothing exceptional but solid numbers for a remake.
Halo-4_Survey_03.jpg
 

StuBurns

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It's interesting you frame it as have enough with those three by then end of the year. So the one game of 2 to 3 is the threshold for people? I'm not saying you're wrong, I don't know if I've ever thought that closely of exclusives of fall lineups and what's "enough".
I think three is a solid number, yes. I think if TLoU had been fall, and The Order wouldn't have been delayed, Sony would have had three too, and I think that would have been solid. It's a very busy window, and very few people are buying eight to ten games in three months, there's no point having five or more first party games during the holiday.

Sony could still have three, TLoU could be delayed, TLG could be ready in time, it's hard to say.
 
You don't think you're overreacting a bit much? Seriously NOTHING they could show would get you excited. If they showed Shenmue 3 which I highly doubt. TLG, Project Beast, Uncharted. You just wouldn't be happy?

I understand delays suck. But come on bro. 3rd party titles will be good this fall and 2015 is shaping up to be a hell of a gaming year.


No point in being that excited for announcements of games that will come out a year from now and also have the same possibility of being delayed. If you have a PC then this year hasn't justified a current gen console purchase. However this is nothing new. First year is never that good.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Honestly this has been a weird ass year all these third parties make AAA games go for end of the year because that's when games tend to sell the most. The month gets crowded as hell and will almost certainly eat into each other sales and we get delays upon delays, into periods they weren't planning to release in the first place.

If there were more lower budget games you wouldn't need to all release during fall.
 

DNAbro

Member
hah! not exclusive since it'll be out on 3DS for months. ;)

But probably i guess. That or SO or Drive Club depending on what floats your boat.

Smash Bros for 3DS
Smash Bros for Wii U.

Not the same game, not the same content!

lol

But seriously, im expecting the Wii U version to have more content.
 

Elios83

Member
The delay if confirmed is definetly disappoiting, not so much for the game itself which will benefit from it and will be a better product eventually, but of course relatively to Sony's first party 2014 lineup.
Still I'd prefer to wait until E3 to see what kind of suprises they have in store.
It would be a pretty poor release planning on their side if the only game they were planning to release at the end of the year was The Order and I don't consider Driveclub because that's a title they intended to release at launch, the fact that it's coming late right now comes in handy but it was not intentional, so the question at the moment is: which games they were intentionally planning to release at the end of 2014?
I guess we'll find out at E3, the risk right now is to have a repeat of the PS3 situation in 2012-2013 when the 2012 lineup was really lackluster and ended up having All Stars Battle Royale as their top title (ROTFL) while 2013 was amazingly stacked. 2014 might be really disappointing for first party titles for PS4 while 2015 might be totally amazing with The Order, Uncharted 4, The Last Guardian, GT7 Prologue, Rime, Everyone's Gone to The Rapture and many others all hitting at the same time.
 
If the game needs more time, so be it. But If it's a strategically delay then it sucks. Hopefully Arkham Knight is still a 2014 game because i couldn't care less for Destiny or Driveclub (or CoD, BF, AC and all the other yearly factory assembly line stuff).

And please Alien: Isolation, don`t disappoint and be a good/great game.
 
Halo Anniversary was a download only game at that time, DD games only sell a small amount on consoles (especially at that point) compared to retail.

Um, that was a retail release. That shit is currently sitting on my shelf. The real arguement as to why it didn't crack the top ten was all those other games are mega-ton blockbusters. And the Reach multiplayer turned a lot of people away from the game.
 

Famassu

Member
Alien: Isolation? Anyway, this is bullshit. Incredibly tired of these delays. It really does look like I bought my PS4 on promise. Man, after TLOU: R there is nothing.
If you're this butthurt over one or two game's possible delays, then maybe learn from this and NEVEREVERNEVER buy a console at launch EVER again. Only buy them when a sufficient number of (exclusive) games are out that you want to play (5+ big exclusives?). These droughts happen during the first year of every fucking platform and I still can't believe why people are so surprised or annoyed by them. It keeps happening with every console & handheld.

At least PS4 has it far better than most platforms thanks to awesome indie support, the F2P stuff, FFXIV like great MMOs and such.
 

RetroStu

Banned
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Ah maybe it was different there. In the US it was a day one retail in November which was what the NPD list was referring to

Was it always confirmed to get a retail release when it was announced?, could they of changed their minds along the way and decided to do a retail release later?.

Its weird because i can picture in my mind the pissed off posts i did about it on other forums.

I have total mindfuck now lol.
 
Was it always confirmed to get a retail release when it was announced?, could they of changed their minds along the way and decided to do a retail release later?.

Its weird because i can picture in my mind the pissed off posts i did about it on other forums.

I have total mindfuck now lol.

Yeah 100% confirmed. They announced the special first run print essentially straight away.
 
Was it always confirmed to get a retail release when it was announced?, could they of changed their minds along the way and decided to do a retail release later?.

Its weird because i can picture in my mind the pissed off posts i did about it on other forums.

I have total mindfuck now lol.

no it was always a retail game. Are you thinking of the Halo android game that was then ported to Xbox just recently? That was digital only

Cause it's smash bros on the go. Plus it will hold many of us over until Wii U.

True but i like my couch multiplayer for those games. I don't begrudge that it exists. I do think it should be cross buy and both versions released at the same time. That delay is some B.S
 

golem

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Yea, I could see them announce less because the have a 'big' headliner for the first quarter of next year. The Driveclub delay was annoying, but this apparent one for the Order is even more so. E3 will be interesting to say the least.
February isnt too far away though. Hopefully it results in a better game
 

Andodalf

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If you're this butthurt over one or two game's possible delays, then maybe learn from this and NEVEREVERNEVER buy a console at launch EVER again. Only buy them when a sufficient number of (exclusive) games are out that you want to play (5+ big exclusives?). These droughts happen during the first year of every fucking platform and I still can't believe why people are so surprised or annoyed by them. It keeps happening with every console & handheld.

At least PS4 has it far better than most platforms thanks to awesome indie support, the F2P stuff, FFXIV like great MMOs and such.


Yeah unless a game you just must have comes out, wait for at least the 2nd Christmas. It'll be a lower price for a bundle with at least 2 games. If it's Xbox. I'd be willing to bet you can get a kinect model w Forza 5 and ks:r for under 500 this year.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
If you're this butthurt over one or two game's possible delays, then maybe learn from this and NEVEREVERNEVER buy a console at launch EVER again. Only buy them when a sufficient number of (exclusive) games are out that you want to play (5+ big exclusives?). These droughts happen during the first year of every fucking platform and I still can't believe why people are so surprised or annoyed by them. It keeps happening with every console & handheld.

At least PS4 has it far better than most platforms thanks to awesome indie support, the F2P stuff, FFXIV like great MMOs and such.

PS2's first year was amazing tho...
 

Y2Kev

TLG Fan Caretaker Est. 2009
Wow, I didn't realize how stacked October actually is.

October 7th: Alien: Amnesia Edition, Dragon Age: LOL GOT YOUR MONEY AGAIN III, Dumbclub, AssCrud: Shadow of Mordor, NBA 2K15
October 14th: Batman: Flabby Pecs
October 21st: Evolve Ability to Care About This Game
October 26th: WWETrashK15
 

Famassu

Member
Today I lost all excitement for my PS4 and Sony's upcoming E3. No matter how much they show, TLG Shenmue 3 etc, I dont care. There is no AAA exclusive game coming up for the next 7-8 months and it's making me furious how they could screw up so much.
This is just getting sad. I can't believe that the possible delay of ONE game is such a make or break deal for anyone. If you think Sony's fall (after E3) is pathetic without The Order potentially being a part of it (do remember that this is just a rumor), then you would have thought it's pathetic even if The Order is a part of it.
 

Hyunashi

Member
If you're this butthurt over one or two game's possible delays, then maybe learn from this and NEVEREVERNEVER buy a console at launch EVER again. Only buy them when a sufficient number of (exclusive) games are out that you want to play (5+ big exclusives?). These droughts happen during the first year of every fucking platform and I still can't believe why people are so surprised or annoyed by them. It keeps happening with every console & handheld.

At least PS4 has it far better than most platforms thanks to awesome indie support, the F2P stuff, FFXIV like great MMOs and such.

What if people bought them expecting Driveclub a relatively short time away from launch and The Order to be available the next year?

And then we have:
Shu: “In WWS we have 30+ PS4 titles in development...20 are planned for PS4's first year.” 12 of these are brand-new IPs."

Sure its never good to buy a console at launch, but that doesn't take away from how disappointing it has been this year for Sony, in terms of games.
 

RetroStu

Banned
no it was always a retail game. Are you thinking of the Halo android game that was then ported to Xbox just recently? That was digital only



True but i like my couch multiplayer for those games. I don't begrudge that it exists. I do think it should be cross buy and both versions released at the same time. That delay is some B.S

Oh feck me, you know what i'm mixing it up with?, the Crysis 1 port.

Ignore me guys!.
 

SFenton

Member
the Wii U version is the only one I care about. I'm not getting the appeal of that game on handhelds to be honest.

I used to get super excited for a portable Smash, but playing All-Stars on Vita has made me realize, just view-wise, it's not the best way to experience the game.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Wow, I didn't realize how stacked October actually is.

October 7th: Alien: Amnesia Edition, Dragon Age: LOL GOT YOUR MONEY AGAIN III, Dumbclub, AssCrud: Shadow of Mordor, NBA 2K15
October 14th: Batman: Flabby Pecs
October 21st: Evolve Ability to Care About This Game
October 26th: WWETrashK15

Yep everyone loves their fall games. It would make more sense if they spread them out through the year (especially for gamers).
 
Wow, I didn't realize how stacked October actually is.

October 7th: Alien: Amnesia Edition, Dragon Age: LOL GOT YOUR MONEY AGAIN III, Dumbclub, AssCrud: Shadow of Mordor, NBA 2K15
October 14th: Batman: Flabby Pecs
October 21st: Evolve Ability to Care About This Game
October 26th: WWETrashK15

Alien, Dragon Age, Ass Creed, Driveclub (maybe)
Batman
WWE if it's not usual Pukes crap.
 

Andodalf

Banned
Wow, I didn't realize how stacked October actually is.

October 7th: Alien: Amnesia Edition, Dragon Age: LOL GOT YOUR MONEY AGAIN III, Dumbclub, AssCrud: Shadow of Mordor, NBA 2K15
October 14th: Batman: Flabby Pecs
October 21st: Evolve Ability to Care About This Game
October 26th: WWETrashK15

Aww, I wanted to see the funny name for NBA 2k15!
 
The Last of Us Port and the Halo ports won't do shit except sell to an existing fanbase. The game changers are mostly third party titles that have been list war'd to fuck in this thread. People buy machines for games like Call of Duty, Batman, Sunset Overdrive, the Order, Skyrim, Fallout.

Huh? Not sure I follow.
 

Nokterian

Member
26 pages? holy shit..well if this is so significant...? Enough games on the horizon to keep me busy on my shiney new PS4 in the coming months.
 
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