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Destiny PS4 Timed Exclusives will last until "At least Fall 2015"

Beboh13

Banned
I have a PS4/XB1 and I think a whole year is way too long for exclusive content. I'm sorry but this will set a very bad precedent. I love you Bungie, but I will not be buying this game now.
 
Hope DestinyXboxGAF doesn't get mad at my indifference, but I really don't see a problem with this.

I also didn't have a problem not having Halo or Gears of War on my PS3.

It's a business. There are still going to be great experience had in Destiny's universe that can be discussed by both platforms.
 

Kelsey

Banned
did activision sign this deal with sony since microsoft was busy making deals with EA for titan fall? did microsoft even bother approaching activision for exclusives on destiny?

Probably just a case of "Microsoft has COD, let's give Sony the option of partnering with us on Destiny". Could you imagine the hate Activision would get if it fucked over Sony fans on both of these big games?
 

k3rn3ll

Neo Member
No they would both not be vaporware. Titanfall was coming out regardless and Insomniac could have published the games through another publisher that would have let them keep the IP. In each case (destiny dlc and xbone exclusives) money is exchanged to keep an existing product off another set of consoles.

Edit: Whatever this is OT. Let's get back to being outraged about a rumor from amazon.

um no. Insomniac has said the reason they went with MS was because they were the only who would let them keep the ip. Insomniac has made a bunch of IP in past for Sony and hasnt been able to own any of it. That was the main sellinf point for them to go with MS
 

Nutter

Member
Funny how you neglected to mention Titanfall, where potential PS4 sales were essentially bought out just so MS could keep it as a console exclusive.

I guess you missed the part where MS even funded the game to be finished? Or does that count as a money hat as well? You sound like a salty fanboy who is happy to get revenge on a fanbase because of "reasons".
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
I dont understand why people are even arguing about this. The most fucked up part is not just the 1 year exclusivity but the content itself sounds so fucking stupid to have 1 year exclusivity. Few skins and a map? Like wtf? Who gives a shit about this kinda stuff?

Not that I encourage any company to moneyhat content but if you are doing it, might as well do something worthwhile. This is beyond stupid.
 

JAYSIMPLE

Banned
Smart move by Sony. They're essentially pushing the game as an exclusive without having to pay the moneyhat. I'm sure the gap in sales between PS4/XBO will be pretty big.


YYou think Sony didn't pay the "moneyhat"? Of course Sony paid for this. It's disgusting which ever company is doing it
 

Vire

Member
I dont understand why people are even arguing about this. The most fucked up part is not just the 1 year exclusivity but the content itself sounds so fucking stupid to have 1 year exclusivity. Few skins and a map? Like wtf? Who gives a shit about this kinda stuff?

Not that I encourage any company to moneyhat content but if you are doing it, might as well do something worthwhile. This is beyond stupid.
A multiplayer map and a strike sounds more than worthwhile. I much rather have that than the shitty "one hour of extra gameplay" bonuses in Ubisoft games.

Especially considering their last game, Reach only had 9 competitive maps to begin with.
 
I wasn't going to buy it anyway, Plus the Halo collection will be way more popular online. I have no problem with PS4 having exclusives or linking themselves with third party games. Watchdogs is another one i didn't bother buying neither.
 

cookienut

Banned
I'll be getting the X1 version due my friends I play online. This doesn't bother me in the slightest. Infact...I never care for exclusive shiz on any game.
 
I dont understand why people are even arguing about this. The most fucked up part is not just the 1 year exclusivity but the content itself sounds so fucking stupid to have 1 year exclusivity. Few skins and a map? Like wtf? Who gives a shit about this kinda stuff?

Not that I encourage any company to moneyhat content but if you are doing it, might as well do something worthwhile. This is beyond stupid.

I don't understand. Stupid to who?
 

Replicant

Member
I'm cackling. MS finally get to taste the fruit of their money-hatting practice but in reverse. This is what happens when you introduced this kind of atrocious practices. Sooner or later, your competitors will pick up on it and do the same thing that you've been doing to them.
 

BigDug13

Member
I have a PS4/XB1 and I think a whole year is way too long for exclusive content. I'm sorry but this will set a very bad precedent. I love you Bungie, but I will not be buying this game now.

So...entire game locked from other platform such as DR3, that's fine. But locked bit of content in a game that is available to practically everyone, that's not cool? So did you equally vote with your wallet on every third party moneyhat exclusive? I fail to see the difference.

I personally don't like any of it, but if you were ok with Moneyhatted third party exclusives before and somehow this is the thing that grinds your gears, I don't get it.
 

Lemondish

Member
Lots of upset people in this thread on either side.

I think the one major component about this that differs from the CoD deal is that this content is free. With CoD, the timed exclusivity is really only giving you the privilege of buying the content before the other guys on the other system can buy it.

This will be free to everyone who buys on a PlayStation, which I think is a nice benefit. I really do think they missed the chance to leverage PlayStation properties when designing these skins. Look at what Blizzard is doing with D3 to see what I mean.
 

Toxi

Banned
MS did the same during the PS360 era it's just payback time
How does it benefit customers to have companies adopt the shitty practices of their competitors? It's "payback" only if you care more about Sony "winning" than devs cutting content.
 
How does it benefit customers to have companies adopt the shitty practices of their competitors? It's "payback" only if you care more about Sony "winning" than devs cutting content.

It benefits Sony customers. Is Sony supposed to be concerned about Xbox owners?
 
This shit is getting ridiculous after seeing the amounts of timed exclusives at e3, what I am noticing though is that quite a few games are starting to go always online whether MMO or not, I'm expecting all third party games to be always online in some way within the next 2 years or so.

I'll be picking my PS4 up in early August, still not sure whether I want this, never been a fan of MMO's, or always online games *cough* Diablo 3 from release.
 

Toxi

Banned
No matter who does this, it's bad for customers and promotes practices that are bad for customers. I really don't think you get my point when you start banging on about Microsoft doing it too.
It benefits Sony customers. Is Sony supposed to be concerned about Xbox owners?
No, but why should I give a shit what Sony is concerned about? They're not looking out for me, I just pay their bills.

And no, it doesn't "benefit" Sony customers. The devs made content and then cut it out of the game in some of the versions. That doesn't benefit anyone unless you somehow think other people getting less content is a benefit.
 

Piggus

Member
I guess you missed the part where MS even funded the game to be finished? Or does that count as a money hat as well? You sound like a salty fanboy who is happy to get revenge on a fanbase because of "reasons".

Why would I be salty about Titanfall when I can play it on PC? I have absolutely no problem with people knowing that I prefer PC and PlayStation products, but I don't get giddy over Sony getting "revenge" or whatever on MS just because Xbox isn't something I'm particularly interested in. But by all means, go ahead and throw out the "fanboy" card. It's amusing.
 
Why do people keep quoting the DLC as being a year long exclusive?

Bungie aren't going to be releasing substantial DLC within days of the game coming out, it'll be a good couple of months before anything substantial is on the horizon. It'll be a 6-8 month exclusive at best.

Also consider that they'll very likely put more effort into DLC they can monetize on both platforms than into DLC that's limited to one platform...
 
No matter who does this, it's bad for customers and promotes practices that are bad for customers. I really don't think you get my point when you start banging on about Microsoft doing it too.

No, but why should I give a shit what Sony is concerned about? They're not looking out for me, I just pay their bills.

And no, it doesn't "benefit" Sony customers. The devs made content and then cut it out of the game in some of the versions. That doesn't benefit anyone unless you somehow think other people getting less content is a benefit.

Sony customers getting more IS a benefit. That's all this is about. They are trying to make their platform the most attractive to potential customers.
 
I'm cackling. MS finally get to taste the fruit of their money-hatting practice but in reverse. This is what happens when you introduced this kind of atrocious practices. Sooner or later, your competitors will pick up on it and do the same thing that you've been doing to them.
You know Sony has "money-hatted" content before, right? Not to mention the GTA games in the PS2 era...
 

Rurunaki

Member
Why are people being salty about this? It's not like the content is game breaking or even substantial. This is pretty much the same as the Watchdog additional content. The GTA DLC was by far the worse as it is a whole new scenario that was locked for over a year. This is nothing more than a little incentive to those who are gonna go with the Sony platform. I'm sure Microsoft was also offered with the same tyoe of exclusive content, but most likely opted out. A strike 3 skins and weapons does not make a dlc.
 

Saganator

Member
I'd be annoyed if I was an Xbox gamer. As a PS4 owner, this makes it easier for me to convince my friends to get a PS4. I kinda hope it is for that long. I always thought the 2-4 week timed exclusives were pointless and never really matter to me. The short timed exclusives will sway a person who has both consoles, but a long exclusive will persuade 1 console owners to pick their console or make the jump to 2 consoles. Good move by Sony if real.
 

strikeselect

You like me, you really really like me!
Good moneyhat by Sony IMO

Destiny has the potential to blow up big with that Activision marketing machine behind it.

Sucks for those with only a bone though.
 
My favorite part of these threads is when people get heated about what does and doesn't constitute a "money hat", as if it's some real thing and not a complete joke of a meme created by Penny Arcade for a comic strip punchline.
 

Toxi

Banned
Sony customers getting more IS a benefit. That's all this is about. They are trying to make their platform the most attractive to potential customers.
Again, why do I care about what makes Sony money? I am not Sony. I do not have stocks in Sony. Sony could sell a billion PS4s or less than a million and it would not affect me.

What matters to me is there is no actual benefit to customers who do get the full game, and there is in fact a loss for customers not on Sony systems because Sony is intentionally releasing them an incomplete game. And worse for me, if Destiny on the PS4 is successful (which it will be), its success will promote more deals of this kind and encourage more developers to not ship complete games, just like with Call of Duty.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
I'm cackling. MS finally get to taste the fruit of their money-hatting practice but in reverse. This is what happens when you introduced this kind of atrocious practices. Sooner or later, your competitors will pick up on it and do the same thing that you've been doing to them.

This is hardly the first time this has happened.
 

Toxa

Junior Member
No matter who does this, it's bad for customers and promotes practices that are bad for customers. I really don't think you get my point when you start banging on about Microsoft doing it too.

yeah I agree but MS did it during the entire ps360 era
and even worse with titan fall exclusive to the xbox console, IMO it will hurt the titan fall brand because TF 2 will be on PS4 but most PS nation wouldn't care much about TF2
 

TechnicPuppet

Nothing! I said nothing!
So...entire game locked from other platform such as DR3, that's fine. But locked bit of content in a game that is available to practically everyone, that's not cool? So did you equally vote with your wallet on every third party moneyhat exclusive? I fail to see the difference.

I personally don't like any of it, but if you were ok with Moneyhatted third party exclusives before and somehow this is the thing that grinds your gears, I don't get it.

MS funded DR3, this is not the same thing.
 

Paratek

Member
Has this been confirmed? Year long exclusive content is something I would imagine Sony would want everyone to know. Is Amazon the only source for this?
 
Again, why do I care about what makes Sony money? I am not Sony. I do not have stocks in Sony. Sony could sell a billion PS4s or less than a million and it would not affect me.

What matters to me is there is no actual benefit to customers, and there is in fact a loss for customers not on Sony systems because Sony is intentionally releasing them an incomplete game. And worse for me, if Destiny on the PS4 is successful (which it will be), its success will promote more deals of this kind and encourage more developers to not ship complete games.

You don't have to care about Sony's stock or bottom line. Saying this doesn't benefit customers is false. It benefits people that buy Sony products, which is the whole point. It doesn't benefit people who don't buy Sony products, but Sony is not concerned about that. They are a business. It's ridiculous to expect them to care about ensuring any sort of parity with their competitors.
 

Katsa

Banned
MS funded DR3, this is not the same thing.

See, this where I am getting confused. People say that MS "funding" a project is not moneyhatting, but if Microsoft's funding keeps the title off the Sony/Nintendo platforms, what does it make it then?

Still just "funding"? Sounds weird to me....
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
See, this where I am getting confused. People say that MS "funding" a project is not moneyhatting, but if Microsoft's funding keeps the title off the Sony/Nintendo platforms, what does it make it then?

Still just "funding"? Sounds weird to me....

...how would that not be funding?
 

tuna_love

Banned
See, this where I am getting confused. People say that MS "funding" a project is not moneyhatting, but if Microsoft's funding keeps the title off the Sony/Nintendo platforms, what does it make it then?

Still just "funding"? Sounds weird to me....

I don't think it would be on any platforms?
 

bebop242

Member
I hated this practice last gen as a ps3 owner with MS doing these type of deals and now I hate this practice as a ps4 owner with Sony doing these type of deals.
 
I have a PS4/XB1 and I think a whole year is way too long for exclusive content. I'm sorry but this will set a very bad precedent. I love you Bungie, but I will not be buying this game now.

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I'm unlikely to get Destiny either, but this is just the last straw. My main issue with Destiny is, both as a Halo fan and as an FPS fan in general, I just don't think it looks particularly interesting. While there have been many positive impressions coming from the alpha, I often disagree with others' opinions (it's also worth noting that, with the alpha being exclusive to PS4, many of those impressions are coming from people who have never spent any significant amount of time playing Halo), and there's no way for me to check first hand unless I preorder (as someone with serious doubts, why would I?) or I get lucky with a beta code.

And then there's the Master Chief collection, which I know I'll be spending a lot of time with later this year. One would think that they'd be throwing all they've got into combating that, but no.

As a long time fan, I used to worry about Bungie getting themselves into a potentially dangerous position with Destiny - first with it being such a huge project, and such a long-lasting commitment to Activision, of all publishers; and then with it being so closely tied to a single platform holder - but the further this exclusive charade gets, the less I care. If Destiny fails to meet Bungie's and Activision's expectations, they have nobody but themselves to blame.

That said, I'd love to be proven wrong and swayed into supporting - and enjoying - Destiny.
 
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