meanspartan
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Maybe because microsoft has been doing this forever? Sony just stopped bringing a knife to the gunfight finally.
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Destiny PS4 Timed Exclusives will last until "At least Fall 2015"
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Maybe because microsoft has been doing this forever? Sony just stopped bringing a knife to the gunfight finally.
And then bought as a full Xbox exclusive in October.
Bolts-n-Rays1109
Banned
I play it regularly on XB1. Working my way up to 10th Gen.
BuggeryBugz
Member
Holy shit mate. They both do it and it's shitty. Stop being ridiculous.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Same way many of these titles also can and have ended up on other platforms.
http://www.giantbomb.com/pub-fund/3015-7606/
Did Bungie ever say that this will eventually come to Xbox?
For that matter the whole premise of this thread is bad because none of this is officially confirmed.
Lol oh now it's a fluff piece, do you have evidence proving otherwise?
From the sound of both developers it appeared both were headed no where.
Well you may believe what you'd like.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Marketing is one thing when your competition pays 50 million so you can't get content for months ( GTA 4) that is another thing all together .
We had marketing deals going on all the way back to PS1 days but last gen was start of this exclusive content bullshit .
Now it's become the norm and that not going to change .
Bolts-n-Rays1109
Banned
If I helped fund a game, I wouldn't want somebody else making money off of my investment and I get nothing for it. Not surprised one bit MS bought the exclusivity of the first game after helping the game actually get made.
meanspartan
Member
Ok, i gotta ask, why was titanfall so expensive? Obviously its no small passion project, but content wise its smaller than COD or BF.
And it was being made by the creators of COD and featured giant robots! I dont get why EA would have doubts. I think they were fishing MS to lure them into moneyhatting.
what the hell are you talking about
Destiny does not have a $500 million budget lol. That is what Activision is looking to invest across the entirety of the franchise.
Isn't the pub fund more of a loan? I thought they give money to indie devs while they are making the game and then take that money back from game sales.
Why set a time frame if it isn't timed exclusive?
meanspartan
Member
Read my above posts, i hate the practice.
But i think its clear who escalated its use last gen.
He means how EA let Insomniac keep Fuse...I think.
Leatherworkstation
Banned
I mean, from a certain standpoint, if you're going to do exclusive content you may as well do it properly and get it for a year so that it actually means something and might cause a few fence sitters to fall in your garden rather than "exclusively on PlayBox OneStation 4 for 72 hours/ 2 weeks/ a month".
From another standpoint it's bloody annoying.
From another standpoint it's bloody annoying.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
I am not saying Sony is using the Pub Fund for it, but something a little more higher level version of that possibly.
meanspartan
Member
I actually do too sometimes on pc. Very fun game but just needed a bit more depth i think.
Its just jarring how we went from 24/7 titanfall to it barely being mentioned so fast.
That's a long ass time. I was thinking more along the lines of 3 months or so.
From a gamer perspective this sucks balls
From a business pov this makes perfect sense..sony really wants to attach the Playstation brand name to this franchise going forward. Given the Watch_Dogs sales one can see why
From a gamer perspective this sucks balls
From a business pov this makes perfect sense..sony really wants to attach the Playstation brand name to this franchise going forward. Given the Watch_Dogs sales one can see why
I do not know.
Generally speaking, don't new IPs usually start off to be quite expensive? EG: Destiny, Watch_Dogs, maybe Titanfall?
Pseudo judo
Member
Pls don't double down.
IIRC, the game was pitched from the get go as a multiplat that was timed exclusive to whoever funded the game. If that was the case then MS knew what they were getting into when they stepped in.
Oh wow, you guys really believe that EA was going to completely can the game? Especially after all that PR and money poured into it.
Also, their money may have well been put toward the game itself, but it was timed until they made it full later as Yusef's tweet indicated.
HighResTomato
Member
The praise for timed exclusivity in this thread is insane. I don't really care for it but every time MS announces a deal it's "evil" and "because moneyhat". I guess Sony paid Activsion in peanuts.
yes, this happens in the AAA business
There is substantial evidence towards one point and "wow you really believe that?" on the other.
It was timed until they paid it off later, yes.
BuggeryBugz
Member
Yeah, Sony wanted their own Halo, and now they sort of have it.
My thoughts exactly.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Well, if you're going to get a timed exclusive, you might as well make it worth it lol. As someone getting the X1 version, I'm whatevs about most of it but I AM sad I'll be missing on the Strike and MP map for so long. Thems the breaks though.
Yes, and did they actually make it clear what in all the things that PS4 gets is timed exclusive? Did they make clear for how long? Did they make it clear if all that means is that it will show up on eventual PC release but not on Xbox? None of this is clear, so conclusion should be we don't know.
Show me this person who praised it.
I'm sure Bungie's history is a big part of it yes but mostly it's due to them knowing this is going to be a long running big franchise for Activision. Same situation with Watch_Dogs. We will hear that name for a long time to come too.
That they could have published the game through a third party publisher that let them keep the IP. I don't know how I could have been much clearer?
I don't really care about the stuff they've said yet, I just care if this 1 year exclusivity deal extends to other major add on content that will be coming for the game.
Woo-Fu
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The comical part of this argument is that both camps are trying to argue that one platform holder is more/less guilty than the other.
Seems to me that you're both wrong. It isn't the platform holders, it is the developers/publishers who are agreeing to these deals---and I wouldn't be surprised if they were proposing them themselves in some cases.
Moneyhats don't work unless you have people willing to wear them.
Seems to me that you're both wrong. It isn't the platform holders, it is the developers/publishers who are agreeing to these deals---and I wouldn't be surprised if they were proposing them themselves in some cases.
Moneyhats don't work unless you have people willing to wear them.
GuitarAtomik
Member
That's a good point. Didn't even think about that.
I can't imagine that actually happening. Not to mention it's dropping early September with pretty much no competition for a month.
You can bet on it.
meanspartan
Member
On what? I said earlier that i hate exclusive content. I also said microsoft was mostly responsible for making it common practice last gen.
I dont think either is incorrect, but feel free to correct.
mugoldeneagle03
Member
I never got a 360 until late last gen, in fact Reach was one of the first games I bought & played. One of the main reasons I bought one was because I got fed up waiting for Oblivion, CoD, Fallout, Skyrim DLC among others, some of which came around a year later just like this Destiny DLC is rumored to have.
Figured MS threw around money like most of us do but the PS3 was struggling just as much at the time so it was probably a pretty easy choice for publishers as well. I was just as angry with Sony as I was with the whole outcome.
Well guess what, Sony got their head out of it ass, has the pubs & devs in their corner (including a damn good one in Bungie) and as a PS4 only owner at the moment I don't really feel too sympathetic about this situation.
A year is a pretty long time so I agree waiting will suck, but good for Sony, they need this.
Figured MS threw around money like most of us do but the PS3 was struggling just as much at the time so it was probably a pretty easy choice for publishers as well. I was just as angry with Sony as I was with the whole outcome.
Well guess what, Sony got their head out of it ass, has the pubs & devs in their corner (including a damn good one in Bungie) and as a PS4 only owner at the moment I don't really feel too sympathetic about this situation.
A year is a pretty long time so I agree waiting will suck, but good for Sony, they need this.
There are people in this very thread doing it.
Most of MS exclusives were for a month to three months. This year long exclusive is pure bullshit.
they could have published a game through a third party publisher that let them keep the ip. You don't know the details between the partnership insomniac shares with MS compared to the one with EA. ie creative control, business model, development time.
They can get a game published with another party, that does not mean you would get the same game.
Woo-Fu
Banned
Look on the bright side, if my experience with DLC that comes out a year after a game is released is anything to go by you'll have left the game behind and won't feel any need to spend more money on DLC.
You're saving money.
Yeah, show me. Indifference does not equal praise.
meanspartan
Member
Sure but it was such a big deal getting some of the infinity ward guys to EA, and as cool as mechs are, titanfall is hardly on the scale of Destiny or even EA's own Battlefield series.
Maybe hindsight is 20/20, but i find it hard to believe EA was ever gonna can this game.
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