I don't even understand why they were silly enough to attempt it. This isn't a mainstream shopping website with numerous consumers that'll eat up bullshit because they don't know better. This a niche website that deals in Japanese games etc.
That is the exact same demographic that'll go online and call out your bullshit in the loudest possible way.
I am gonna disagree, NISA probably thinks it can get away with this because they have some strangely loyal fans that will buy everything. The only time this so far has backfired is with Mugen souls.
You should check the forums they have... it can be quite jarring how far they will go to defend stuff.
Yeah, this is more than likely the case. It's the same over here in North America with the "Atlus Tax" on Persona Q (nowhere near as high, though). Basically, they know they have their dedicated base, and know they're likely to pay a premium.
The only way to combat this of course is with the wallet. People can say "man this sucks" online, but it's hard to hear that when the sound is muffled by all the cash they are rolling in. Now, if the cash suddenly doesn't come in like they expected...
Well, I think online stores like Videogame+, even with the high prices you pay for shipping, are a viable option for people who want these games. It's certainly not that the fans aren't used to importing.
Technically it is illegal yes but no one has ever had the patient to take this branch of government to task. Why? Reasons -.-
Talked to them on the live chat. I asked them if they're going to change the prices and they replied me this:
After that, they didn't talk to me again and they deleted all of the reviews compaining about the prices.
This is why I laughed in the Fairy Fencer LE thread at people in the US complaining at a $70 price tag.
This is why I laughed in the Fairy Fencer LE thread at people in the US complaining at a $70 price tag.
It's $75, but there's a thread on the NISA forums asking why the LE isn't $70, when it's £70 on the europe store.
That reply didn't help. I know about rate differences, that's not the issue. My question is. Why are the other two LE's the same in both stores, while the Fairy Fencer is more? Shouldn't they all be the same?
That was for videogame developers so they might be more keen on setting up base in the UK. Of course they took so long to bring this in that many had closed up in the interim.
For consumers games are taxed (VAT) like most other things.
Actually, they have. There was a spate of small claims court victories over Royal Mail on this subject, but they seem to have changed the law somewhat since then.
It's hilarious that they think that Europeans are willing to spend that type on money on these games in this day and age when there are much cheaper equivalents.
Oh well their loss, with this kinda of response I'm not expecting the Euro store to last for very long.
It's $75, but there's a thread on the NISA forums asking why the LE isn't $70, when it's £70 on the europe store.
What the fuck.It's $75, but there's a thread on the NISA forums asking why the LE isn't $70, when it's £70 on the europe store.
I don't understand why they'd do this. They're not going to sell anything at those prices. It's just a turnoff.
Oh they will sell. No doubt about it. There are die hard fans out there. Hopefully they will not sell great, sorry NISA but those prices are fucked up, and NISA will look over things.
But I have to hand it to them. They are actually providing 5 different game packaging languages. Six of you count "Australian" to be different from "UK"....what the fuck is the difference? Do we get a Mr.Bean stamp vs Animals-that-will-kill-you stamp?
Do they seriously think they're going to sell to people at these prices? They were on to something with the store but, man...the prices. Also, I got that email about something being in my cart too and found it pretty hilarious since I'm waiting on a response to a complaint I emailed in.
Someone convince me not to buy the Persona Q LE, I have the money and I can't help myself. ;_;
I think it is safe to assume that NISA is taking a "wait and see" approach. If people will still purchase from their store in spite of the pricing they'll probably stick to this model.Mmmm... no PR response yet? You'd think media reports might've swayed them.
stupid question: will I be able to purhcase Persona Q for 3DS normally in PAL region? If so, screw those prices/LE, I'll simply go for a normal purhcase here in Italy for the normal version
Yeah, the prices are pretty awful, makes me fearful for Persona Q .
Hopefully they'll have wisened up by then.
stupid question: will I be able to purhcase Persona Q for 3DS normally in PAL region? If so, screw those prices/LE, I'll simply go for a normal purhcase here in Italy for the normal version
Everyone knew they would convert their prices at a 1:1 rate. People just didn't expect the unit conversed into being Pound Sterling. And that is the bigger problem – it wouldn't have been a "markup" as significant if it were Euro.When i got the email saying the eu store the first thing i knew that would happen was the direct conversion.
gg.
Yes they are.Are the Limited Editions sold exclusively through their websites?
Well, you try finding a NISA Europe game that came out 12 months ago and for less than RRP? What I'm getting at is the physical copies are already fairly limited.I'm fine with a plain retail copy but what worries me is that I can imagine future localisations been digital download only like SMT4 but with small print runs of physical copies exclusive to their store at similar insane markups. That would royally suck.
I hate it when sites do that.How much longer can they hold on to those prices? I just got this in my inbox:
I expected $= which if it has cheap, fast shipping is a reasonable compromise but $=£ with joke shipping costs is a disgrace.When i got the email saying the eu store the first thing i knew that would happen was the direct conversion.
gg.
I think it is safe to assume that NISA is taking a "wait and see" approach. If people will still purchase from their store in spite of the pricing they'll probably stick to this model.
However, if they fail*, there are three possible outcomes:
- They will reopen the American online store for nonAmericans. This may be the best scenario for their customers, although it may result in losing LEs/CEs for their Europeonly releases.
- They will set the prices to what the customers are willing to pay or change the currency to Euro. There's still a bit of a tradeoff here in terms of pricing, but it won't be as drastic as it used to be.
- Last and worst case scenario they will deem Europe being a market not worth working with (like Atlus did) and retreat from our shores entirely. The American store will still be closed off for Europeans.
*and I think they will
I think it is safe to assume that NISA is taking a "wait and see" approach. If people will still purchase from their store in spite of the pricing they'll probably stick to this model.
However, if they fail*, there are three possible outcomes:
- They will reopen the American online store for nonAmericans. This may be the best scenario for their customers, although it may result in losing LEs/CEs for their Europeonly releases.
- They will set the prices to what the customers are willing to pay or change the currency to Euro. There's still a bit of a tradeoff here in terms of pricing, but it won't be as drastic as it used to be.
- Last and worst case scenario they will deem Europe being a market not worth working with (like Atlus did) and retreat from our shores entirely. The American store will still be closed off for Europeans.
*and I think they will
It's $75, but there's a thread on the NISA forums asking why the LE isn't $70, when it's £70 on the europe store.
If the NISAE version is gonna cost 80GBP+15GBP, it would almost be cheaper buying a 2DS+ PQCE from VGP. With the benefit of being able to play RF4 and other games like it and being avoid atlus tax in the future.
[*]Last and worst case scenario they will deem Europe being a market not worth working with (like Atlus did) and retreat from our shores entirely. The American store will still be closed off for Europeans.
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*and I think they will
Are you saying I should get the US 2DS instead? If so, I already have a US 3DS (and RF4 - awesome game!) so importing isn't a problem. Thing is, buying from NISA would only be about £10 more expensive (I live in the UK so shipping would only be £5, I'm comparing to Amazon as I don't know VG+ shipping fees) and that's with the bonus of being able to play it on an XL instead of an OG 3DS.
I guess my main problem isn't the cost, but that buying PAL = giving NISA money.