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Doom announced (id/Bethesda, PC/PS4/XB1, idtech6, 1080p/60fps, gore), first details
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Slackerchan
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They also redid most of the light maps making the game much brighter and attached a rechargable flashlight to your suit so you can shoot accurately in the dark.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
I just hope this won't get delayed, we've waited long enough.
Release date: when it's done.
Psyrgery ES
Member
Well, I completed BFG recently and I found it to be far more enjoyable than vanilla DooM3.
Appart from the differences pointed out by other gaffers, the speed of the player character is increased, can hold more ammo now, and there is more ammo scattered throughout the maps.
There are more enemies, making it more run'ngun than vanilla DooM3.
I could not even complete DooM3, but BFG got me hooked until the end
But worst of all, is BFG's lack of modding, whereas there are tons of great mods for DooM3.
ClaptoVaughn
Member
Yeah that was a deal breaker for me.
There are mods that can increase enemy count and various other gameplay enhancements, anyways.
dammit! it's gonna be such a long wait...
angular graphics
Banned
Yeah, they made it easier. Practically "unlimited" ammo, they removed some occasions of monsters spawning behind you, etc in order to make the game "less frustrating". As if Doom 3 was frustratingly difficult!
It's a weak remaster of the original. It's ok as a port of Doom 3 for 360/PS3 since the game wasn't available on them, but on PC it's hardly better than the original and in various ways it can be argued it's actually worse. Certainly not the way to go when you are remastering something!
VicDaMoan03
Member
Not a Doom fan but I'm encouraged that its PC/PS4/XB1 only. This gives me hope Bethesda is OK with this model and Fallout 4 will follow suite.
The question of if kbm is the optimal user interface for a shooter is funny, the presumption that there must be a better alternative is false, there really isn't, but logically, you'd think there should be. It shouldn't be so hard to make one given kbm wasn't ever intended for controlling an avatar in a virtual 3D environment with a reticule.
I guess it's just partially that we're so accustom to pointing with a mouse that it's second nature in a way that a gaming specific item would never be, even if it were theoretically superior.
I guess it's just partially that we're so accustom to pointing with a mouse that it's second nature in a way that a gaming specific item would never be, even if it were theoretically superior.
Canis lupus
Member
Sounds like design decisions to accommodate controllers. Hmmmmm
Yes because controller players have such difficulty turning around and shoot whatever's behind them.
Run-M-Run
Member
Wow! I had no idea it was that bad.
Are the extra missions even worth getting the BFG edition for?
Yes because controller players have such difficulty turning around and shoot whatever's behind them.
Flicking a mouse is way faster than tilting a stick until a 180 is done.
RoslindaleOne
Member
I don't know about you, but Doom 3 scared the hell out of me back then.
They could just have a 180 button, L4D did.Flicking a mouse is way faster than tilting a stick until a 180 is done.
You could never do real Quake on a gamepad, but I think Doom is fine.
Muffdraul
Member
It's definitely true that some people have a tough time adapting to controls they aren't familiar with.
Flicking a mouse is way faster than tilting a stick until a 180 is done.
Just because one is faster than the other, it doesn't mean it's impossible to do.
Those fractions of a second don't matter in a single player game anyway
angular graphics
Banned
It's not THAT bad, it just isn't what it should and could have been.
As for your question; not really. Some youtube dude: half of Doom 3 BFG's Lost Mission is Doom 3 maps reorganized
It's some quick and dirty copy pasting of Doom 3's original maps in remixed order.
Ah yes. Banned from every Doom forum, not sure if DoomWorld too but he doesn't post there anymore. Sgt Mark IV is a swell guy, racist, sexist, homophobic, encouraging others to commit suicide AND a holocaust denier. He's a heck of a guy.
grandwizard
Member
Yes because controller players have such difficulty turning around and shoot whatever's behind them.
flaxknuckles
Member
Man you suck at FPSes lol
Only people who don't play FPSes play like that with a controller. That's not representative of regular gamers but someone with fatty roll sweat slathered fingers
test_account
XP-39C²
To be fair, that turnspeed is not limited to controllers. When i used to play almost exclusively on PC (and i played many FPS games), i often set the turning speed to lower sensitivity to be able to aim more precise. I remember that in for example Medal Of Honor Allied Assault, i had to slide my mouse across the table a few times to do a full 360 degree turn. Having slower turning speed like that made my aim much better. It comes down to personal prefrences. The same thing goes for playing with a controller. I dont think there are many FPS games where i play with the default controller sensitivity. Feels like i almost always have to turn it down.
Run-M-Run
Member
Nice guy!
Ehh I was expecting a little more.. I think I'll pass and just go play D3 again.
It's not about adapting one self to a new way of controlling a game. Console shooters are inherently slower than PC shooters. There are very few fast paced shooters on consoles. And then you even have stuff like slower zombies in the console version of Left 4 Dead or slowed movement speed in Unreal 3.
Slackerchan
Member
Yeah, I was in the press queue.
Betas like that have been done before. Look at Ghost Recon: Future Soldier for example.
Bummer.
How did the graphics look? (yes, graphics whore :3)
What did he say about D3?
I'm really hoping this new Doom doesn't forget about its horror roots. :\
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
That appears to be a person who simply isn't good with a controller, doesn't mean controllers are shit.
I play competitive CS:GO with a 360 pad (that game has native controller support by the way) and do just fine. I'm better with m/k, or was anyway as it's been some time, but what you are saying is not true. I can also strafe jump with a controller
There are plenty of reasons why Doom was demoed with a controller at quakecon, none of which automatically mean the game is compromised in any way. Fan reactions are overwhelmingly positive in a crowd that champions a different control method - that should say it all for now.
It's a bit disappointing that this pad discussion and bashing is still going on as it detracts from the actual discussion of the preview.
Man I want to see a real-deal controller vs KBM showdown. None of this internal testing crap, I want a big fucking tournament with the greatest players going head to head to prove once and for all who's the king of FPSs.
Okay maybe it'll just wind up like a Globetrotters vs. Generals game but I still want to see it.
Okay maybe it'll just wind up like a Globetrotters vs. Generals game but I still want to see it.
Daffy Duck
Member
That gif is such a poor representation.
BumblebeeCody
Member
I would not want to be on the controller side then xD
No problem with playing FPS on consoles here btw, i love my Halo and Killzone, but a mouse beats a stick any day. No contest really.
Stranger In The Alps
Member
Bring it on! The original Doom is, to this day, my favorite videogame of all time. Despite how the majority felt about it, I even liked Doom 3 for what it was. My hype levels are through the roof for this, with just a hint of caution due to Zenimax being Zenimax.
Nirvana
Member
I emailed him a list of questions at one point (he used to have a button on his website where you could do this - might still have it) and I asked him about Doom 3. He wasn't overly critical, but said it would have been very different if he had done it and in a playthrough of the first episode of Doom 1 for the 20th anniversary he said he found it predictable and didn't finish it.
maniac-kun
Member
I can't wait to try this game, but ...
Standing ovation ?
I think I have different tastes.
How dare them having fun while playing a videogame.
I can't wait to try this game, but ...
Standing ovation ?
I think I have different tastes.
Perhaps. I really like violent games, the more gruesome the better. I would be one of the people standing.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
It doesn't really need changing. Hell on Mars. Rinse. Repeat. Make a fun game.
I can't wait to try this game, but ...
Standing ovation ?
I think I have different tastes.
For the 20th time, the ovation came at the end of the demo. They were cheering for the whole presentation, not the arm ripping, which happened half way through.
flaxknuckles
Member
It wouldn't even matter if they were. Violence in video games is awesome
Dictator93
Member
I have been thinking about this more today, and I officially got excited.
I look forward to when they finally show this off.
I look forward to when they finally show this off.
This! If you don't get off on this, doom might not be your franchise...
I so want to see the procedural chainsaw damage. I don't know if they might be shooting themselves in the foot with this reveal policy. I mean the image I got in my head now of this game can't possibly be met. Way too many good comments left unrealistic expectations, and I bet I'm not alone with this...
Ixion
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IGN asked Romero about Doom 3 at some point in this video.
He said he actually couldn't finish it because it became too predictable and "if a game is predictable, it's boring". He referred to how the game would place certain weapons, and you knew a certain monster would pop out once you acquired it.
They also asked him how he would handle Doom 4, and he mentioned providing more player choice (in which levels to complete and when to complete them) and a greater emphasis on the competitive multiplayer.