blankempathy
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You assume all parents are that tech savy or care enough to bother.
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In Japan, New 3DS 'Filters' The Internet, Unless You Pay $0.30 Extra
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Nintendo want to continue cultivating squeeky clean reputation for being kid friendly, so I can see why they would go farther than MS or Sony.
Sylverstone14
Member
Ah, the old "Nintendo getting away with it" retort.
Tons of people in this thread are either too young to know what they're talking about or severely afflicted with the allegory of the cave.
Banks don't process transactions for free. Nintendo is not keeping the money.
Parents often aren't into video games and don't know the features these systems provide. In America at least, the MAJORITY of parents (middle aged and older for the most part) have barely any idea what WiFi is let alone if they have it in their home. Their children definitely know. Oh and good luck trying to teach a parent how to use WiFi or what it does on the 3DS. Seriously, go to a Best Buy and try. This was my job for years and NONE OF THEM will ever grasp it because they don't care or think it's beyond them.
For anyone whose ever been a parent (especially with regards to children under 10) this feature is awesome and comes with the system you were going to trust with your child in the first place.
Agree with it or don't, but at least think before posting complete nonsense like "parents don't do their job" or "Nintendo is profiting off porn".
Edit: And for anyone bringing console wars into it - Nintendo doesn't charge for online multiplayer. Or to use Netflix. Both of which cost a little more than 30 yen.
Banks don't process transactions for free. Nintendo is not keeping the money.
Parents often aren't into video games and don't know the features these systems provide. In America at least, the MAJORITY of parents (middle aged and older for the most part) have barely any idea what WiFi is let alone if they have it in their home. Their children definitely know. Oh and good luck trying to teach a parent how to use WiFi or what it does on the 3DS. Seriously, go to a Best Buy and try. This was my job for years and NONE OF THEM will ever grasp it because they don't care or think it's beyond them.
For anyone whose ever been a parent (especially with regards to children under 10) this feature is awesome and comes with the system you were going to trust with your child in the first place.
Agree with it or don't, but at least think before posting complete nonsense like "parents don't do their job" or "Nintendo is profiting off porn".
Edit: And for anyone bringing console wars into it - Nintendo doesn't charge for online multiplayer. Or to use Netflix. Both of which cost a little more than 30 yen.
PurpleEggRoll
Banned
New type of DLC confirmed. Next thing you know we're gonna have to pay to uncensor blood from M rated games.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Pretty smart move by Nintendo to cover their butts against parents who are idiots.
MikeE21286
Member
Obviously just a legal thing. See no issue. It's 30 cents and nobody will use it any ways as a browser.
Not sure why 30 cents though....
Not sure why 30 cents though....
Oh please. Nobody's stopping you from viewing
Quadraphonic
Member
Why put fee in quotes? It's literally a fee.
To cover the CC fees that Nintendo would have to pay.
I can't understand why some consider it a huge inconvenience to pay $0.30 just to disable parental controls.
First of all, it does not cost that much. If I walked out onto the street or looked around my home, I would 30 cents in spare change in less the an hour.
Second, a lot of parents don't care about parental controls. When little Jimmy is found with porn on his 3ds, they'll scream about how it's not their fault and blame Nintendo. Then headlines will say 'CHILD USES 3DS TO VIEW PORNOGRAPHY'. That'll make parents who actually care think that it doesn't have any controls for blocking that material and won't buy one.
First of all, it does not cost that much. If I walked out onto the street or looked around my home, I would 30 cents in spare change in less the an hour.
Second, a lot of parents don't care about parental controls. When little Jimmy is found with porn on his 3ds, they'll scream about how it's not their fault and blame Nintendo. Then headlines will say 'CHILD USES 3DS TO VIEW PORNOGRAPHY'. That'll make parents who actually care think that it doesn't have any controls for blocking that material and won't buy one.
MrCunningham
Member
Exactly, and if a parent unlocks it for them, then they are the ones responsible for what their children are accessing online and not Nintendo.
It is a smart idea.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
There's an obvious way to cover the cost of the transaction in a customer-neutral way: add the cost to the user's account in credit.
Alternatively, eat the cost.
Alternatively, put a pending charge for a random amount and reverse the hold when the user has verified the amount.
Alternatively, don't charge the card at all and just use the luhn checksum to verify that it's a plausible card or do a CVV auth check.
Alternatively, eat the cost.
Alternatively, put a pending charge for a random amount and reverse the hold when the user has verified the amount.
Alternatively, don't charge the card at all and just use the luhn checksum to verify that it's a plausible card or do a CVV auth check.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
What PR disasters have there been from anyone using a handheld gaming device to go on a website?
I don't see any PR disasters or media stories of kids visiting adult sites on their phones, and there's a lot more of them using those devices. It's like a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist.
Verifying won't work well if the kid can just grab their parents credit card and input it themselves. By charging 0.30 cent, it will show up on the bill and the parents can see something like "3DS internet Filter removed" on it. There's also a digital paper trail just in case a parent caught their kids watching porn on the 3DS, so Nintendo has no liability at all.
This is even more idiot proof than parental locks that very few parents use and likely not many news site will report on child watching porn on 3DS if they have to go through those steps to get past the filter.
Nintendo wouldn't have any liability anyway. There's nothing legally that could be held against them or else every computer ever sold in the entirety of history would have a censorship fee. It's only a matter of public perception. And with the sort of negligence that would come with throwing an electronic device at your child and never looking into parental controls, one can safely assume a 30 cent charge would go unnoticed and said shitty parent would try to cause the same media storm.
I think they want this to show up in the Card Statement of the account owner, so it has to be charged as something.
Yeah, imagine if Microsoft put basic online features behind a paywall, like Netflix and all forms of internet browsing... wait... the 360 was the most hated console last gen, right?
Regardless, Nintendo is trying to make their systems as kid/family friendly as possible. That's not such a bad thing, and you still have the option of viewing anything you want, only with a one time fee of 30 cents to confirm that you are an adult.
I do however agree with others that the money should then be routed into your eShop account.
I would not be surprised by the amount of stupid parents not doing their parenting properly. Not at all. No one's questioning that part. Other adult users shouldn't have to pay a tax for their lack of effort, though.
Nintendo is trying to do exactly that. Avoid blame...by taxing those otherwise unaffected. That's not others' concern, and it shouldn't be. It's Nintendo's worry, so they should foot the bill if they want to cover their own asses. It's not my responsibility. (not that I would even want to use the browser at all). Them passing their issue onto other customers is the principle that sucks.
No analogies are perfect, but it reminds me of Gamestop gutting their games because they need to stop theft loss. It was their problem, not the honest customers'. Their solution was to do something that negatively affects customers. Similar here.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=884312
Won't somebody please think of the 1%!
The vast majority of Nintendo's (Wii U) eshop users are men aged 18-34, perfect for porn watching.
This is just a scam to push credit card attachment rates up to 99%.
Won't somebody please think of the 1%!
The vast majority of Nintendo's (Wii U) eshop users are men aged 18-34, perfect for porn watching.
This is just a scam to push credit card attachment rates up to 99%.
This post was tongue-in-cheek.
Which cheeks? Wait are we still talking about porn or Nintendo?
While I don't care, I think the people that don't like this disagree with the principle of charging and not returning the money. It's not hard to AVV a credit card.
There is absolutely no reason I should pay anything to cover the negligence of other parents or Nintendo's backwards censorship ideas.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Who doesn't at least have a bank card tied to on the major credit card companies?
Yaphett Kotto
Member
How is this a good idea? Do parental controls not click into people's brains when they read this?
tim_pkmn89
Member
Not everyone's parent sets up their system for them.
That mentality is exactly the reason why America will never have a proper health care system. "Why do I have to take care of somebody else's problem? It's not my fault that blah blah blah..."
Yes, you're right, it's not your responsibility, but that's not how a healthy society works. Try give a little to the community. I will gladly pay the $0.30 if it means children will be safe from adult websites and online sexual predators.
Also, as an adult, it's not like you have to rely on 3DS for internet access, so you don't really "need" to pay Nintendo. Yes, it'd be nice to have it for free, but I wouldn't be so upset about not being able to use 3DS for internet.
It's 30 cents, dude. Hell, we don't even know the USD price. It could be even lower.
rokkerkory
Member
Censorship is not bad? What?
The price doesn't matter. Anyone else and this entire thread is nothing but accusations that this is to get our credit cards.
You bet your ass I'd be worked up about thirty fucking cents if a $200 gadget came with a locked function that'd require me to pay a ransom to unlock.
They could at least do like PayPal, they validate your account by charging your card a small amount but it's refunded afterwards.
They could at least do like PayPal, they validate your account by charging your card a small amount but it's refunded afterwards.
ArcaneFreeze
Member
Do you not remember "Kid finds Porn on used 3DS?" or "Dirty messages being sent over Swapnote to children" Hell they had to remove Swapnote because of that whole thing. Nintendo has an image of being child friendly, Phones dont.
At least someone remembers lol
If memory serves me right, there were actually indecent photos being sent to children on Swapnote, so there's that.
For children, no it's not bad.
For adults, yes because Freeeeedom
It sure is a good thing that a censorship fee will prevent secondhand users from seeing adult content.
Oh. Wait...
bernardobri
Steve, the dog with no powers that we let hang out with us all for some reason
This would have been the perfect solution.
If only Paypal didn't charge for services.
Just refund it to the credit card, less mess, more convenient. No need for middleman.
Nostremitus
Member
To be fair, how many of those adults do you think created accounts so they could buy games online for their kids?
while i don't personally agree with this monetary charge that nintendo is doing, i think what you've wrote is the most empathetic and reasonable thing anyone has said regarding this matter.
its a shame your post will probably go ignored though, as there's nothing more irritating to the mob mentality of the average low-vibrational gamer, than a down to earth & reasonable counterpoint.
Trigonometrize.
Member
What a Nintendo thing to do.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
Nah, guy would store it all downloaded somewhere. Most perverts are like that. Always found in droves too. Caution for accepting things with memory cards.
Yeah, once again, there was this thing called a Gold Account.
It's not really censorship, it's just locked out until you verify with a credit card. Also, it's to help protect kids, whom this system is primarily aimed towards. If you are an adult, I don't really see the issue (I also find it hard to imagine any adult using a 3DS to view pornography, but whatever).
I have never stored my credit card info with Nintendo. Every time you make a purchase they ask you if you want it stored. Just select "No".
It's kind of funny (but not surprising) to see people screaming about censorship and not supporting Nintendo over this. It's just a child safety measure for very specific content, and can be easily resolved. I hope everybody upset over this also never supports any of the movie studios since they have all taken part in actual censorship of movies in order to get a PG-13 rating.
It's not about the money. They need the ability to verify that a credit card is in the possession of the owner, which usually isn't entrusted to small children.
I swear to God the wii u needed something similar or my memory is complete shit.