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In Japan, New 3DS 'Filters' The Internet, Unless You Pay $0.30 Extra
- Thread starter Broken Joystick
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Lol. Why are you so quick to make this a fanboy thing? I don't have a problem with this because I never use the 3DS internet in any capacity, if I did it would probably not involve the sites being filtered, and if I wanted to use it 30 cents is such a small amount to pay. Its such a non-issue it isn't even funny.
We will blast it... if people seriously have no other ways of browsing the internet other than on game consoles.
What device did you type this post on?
This helps to make any gaming companies less liable to such lawsuits. If Google/Apple/Mozilla etc implements this, of course we should complain since these are major ways to accessing the internet.
plank
Member
It only prompts you $0.30 when your creating an under 18 account. It the same with the WiiU. I think the WiiU was $0.50 though.
Edit: on second thought it may prompt you $0.30 regardless, seeing as how the system is mostly targeting children.
using that logic of yours, the people bashing this would be the same people defending MS or Sony if they did the same thing.
Why the fuck should I?
This shit grows when it's left unchecked.
Not objecting to it strongly enough when it was applied to mobile networks in the UK was how it got applied to home ISP connections too.
If you don't think this will be cited by politicians in their next round of "lets censor the internet" pogroms you're naive.
KojiKnight
Member
So, your issue with it seems to be about filtering, censoring in the first place?
Not a bad idea. You have to be an adult to have a credit card, so if kids are looking at porn and Nintendo has accusations thrown at them, they have a nice little paper trail leading directly to the cardholder, removing any blame from themselves.
I also like the people saying that parental controls should just be on by default. What? So then what is the pin? Or will it just advise you to turn the parental controls off and create a pin when you try to access mature content? In that case, it accomplishes nothing.
Of course this is all the fault of the parents, and I understand that, but the media loves a good "Nintendo's newest toy is a gateway to pornography" headline. Not to mention they recently had those real issues with the Swapnote rapes.
I also like the people saying that parental controls should just be on by default. What? So then what is the pin? Or will it just advise you to turn the parental controls off and create a pin when you try to access mature content? In that case, it accomplishes nothing.
Of course this is all the fault of the parents, and I understand that, but the media loves a good "Nintendo's newest toy is a gateway to pornography" headline. Not to mention they recently had those real issues with the Swapnote rapes.
deltatheta
Member
No, if they refunded the $.30 they would have $15 million in pure losses. They still would have to pay the transaction fees.
what happened?
Yep, if there is a default pin to turn off default parental controls, guess who will find out about that pin in the first place.
Pinko Marx
Banned
Whatever happened to parental locks?
Hot Coldman
Banned
The insignificant cost to remove the filter makes this appear to be a "do you have a credit card" check more than anything. I'd refund the money as eShop credit, personally.
No it does not. I don't have have kids, so I shouldn't have to pay to use a feature on my device to help police other families' internet usage. How parents police their kid's usage on their device is none of my concern and I shouldn't have to pay for functionality on my device to help them do their parenting. I don't care how trivial the cost.
Bedameister
Member
Wow I can't believe that people are defending this. This idea is so stupid.
CambriaRising
Member
This. The .30 is just profiteering.
No, they just need parental lock ability and leave it at that. Let parents do their parenting.
Regardless of the median GAF age, Nintendo handhelds are supposedly to be safer for children than a laptop or a tablet. Let's not forget you cannot send or receive Miiverse friend requests on the 3DS and the whole Swapnote scandal. Adults are likely to either have more options for accessing the internet and/or a credit card to disable the filter should they feel the need.
The lost sales to credit-cardless adults who want to browse porn on their 3DS is likely to be overshadowed by the sales to parents who are told the 3DS is "safer" for their kids.
Also, so far it is unknown if this will apply outside of Japan.
The lost sales to credit-cardless adults who want to browse porn on their 3DS is likely to be overshadowed by the sales to parents who are told the 3DS is "safer" for their kids.
Also, so far it is unknown if this will apply outside of Japan.
DeliciousDoc
Member
Sorry, I'm pretty cheap-ass but I don't mind paying 30 cents extra for their experiment. The amount is too low to care. I don't use my web browser on my 3ds and I'd still pay in case I would someday use it.
Also, when I went to pre-university (CEGEP),(17-18 years old) I was pretty much given a credit card AND a toy calculator for signing up. I've never been in debt and I have been using this card for 15 years.
Now, I hope this means swap note comes back. I have friends on my 3ds but 0 ways to interact with them. wtfchief?
Also, when I went to pre-university (CEGEP),(17-18 years old) I was pretty much given a credit card AND a toy calculator for signing up. I've never been in debt and I have been using this card for 15 years.
Now, I hope this means swap note comes back. I have friends on my 3ds but 0 ways to interact with them. wtfchief?
I agree with you on this, though this requires the parents to know about the parental lock to enable it in the first place (aka parents who do their job) and set a custom PIN.
I'm sure Nintendo is trying to solve the issue of parents who doesn't know how to do their job, and hence have a parental lock enabled in the first place. The problem is:
With a default enabled PIN-based parental lock, the PIN to turn it off will be within the manual or maybe the internet.
Guess who's going to be finding that PIN first.
Hence Nintendo has to resort to credit cards which is harder to circumvent.
It's about good press (or avoiding bad press), and it's Nintendo's choice to do so. If you disagree so strongly then don't buy the new system. I'm sure the pros of making this a safer system for kids will outweigh the cons of a couple dozen grumbling adults who want to watch 3DS porn.
Pinko Marx
Banned
It shouldn't be Nintendo's job to make sure parents know what they're doing when they buy their kid an appliance with access to the internet.
I'm sure many parents that buy their kids iPads input locks and such into it, why can't the same logic be applied to the 3DS?
Not only that but what happens when you have a parent that games on the same 3DS as their child? The parents pays the $.30 to get the internet unlocked. Kid comes along later and views porn on same 3DS? This is just all kinds of silly.
My sources say, ahem, yes.
Attaching your credit card to your 3DS/Wii U is not the same thing as attaching it to your PSN account. For the Nintendo system's the card details are only stored locally. The only way for hackers to get to them would be to physically steal your system. And even then, the details are password protected and delete themselves after 3 strikes so it's practically impossible for thieves to get at them anyway.
On PSN the card details sit on Sony's servers, hence why they are able to be stolen.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
Member
didn't Nintendo do this before ?
Night_Trekker
Member
These filters never work all that well. Someone will get porn on the device no matter what and scream, "Won't someone please think of the children?!"
But this might be a good PR move, I guess.
But this might be a good PR move, I guess.
A solution can be if Nintendo uses both.
Once you unlocked the first verification via credit card (Confirmed: There's an adult using this device!), a message comes up telling the adult there is PIN-based parental controls for this device, so the adult can set a custom PIN.
tim_pkmn89
Member
It's not like Nintendo gets the money, that would just cover the transaction cost. And a eShop purchase would likely suffice too.
I understand that, and I think it's terrible on principle regardless of the cost or type of site one would want to visit. If they want to save face or avoid backlash, that's their problem and/or financial burden. It's passing financial responsibility onto people for which this is none of their concern. Again, the cost and content is irrelevant. It's the fact that someone would have to tie their card to the device and be charged for full functionality. If they want to avoid getting sued, fine, find some way to do so, eating the cost if they have to. Just don't make other customers pay for it. It is not their responsibility to foot the bill.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
After the Sad Swapnote incident this is kinda understandable,
but the REAL question here is Does Nintendo consider Neogaf as harmful?
but the REAL question here is Does Nintendo consider Neogaf as harmful?
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Why not just give parents the ability to control it?
Pinko Marx
Banned
This could work, yes, but this doesn't change how silly the whole situation is. I should be able to look at whatever the hell I want to on my device. I don't have children, so why should I have to pay (no matter how little) for extra security?
Hopefully they nix this idea altogether.
Coffee Dog
Banned
I personally don't give a fuck about watching porn on my 3DS so I'm not affected, but I do think it's bullshit that people have to pay a fee (no matter how small) instead of parents taking responsibility for their children.
gutterboy44
Member
So this is a parent-proof child-proofing solution. Makes sense to me. Most people are morons when it comes to learning the ins and outs of basic technology. "Can't program a VCR clock" cliche, etc. Relying on the parents to be proactive enough to learn how to enable the child protection options on the device is asking a lot. Having it locked automatically behind a menial CC paywall is pretty smart. I am sure that .30 barely covers the CC processing fees.