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Final Fantasy XV teases new female character
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I don't really believe in him as a savior like some people.
birthbysleep
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I really think Luna = Stella. It's just a name change. When the E3 trailer dropped and people were like "whats up with stella's redesign?" Normura just laughed and said "oh we tried to make her cuter".
The original Stella design, although great, was quite plain looking compared to the other characters. It's not surprising they decided to make her more girly looking in typical Japanese fashion.
The original Stella design, although great, was quite plain looking compared to the other characters. It's not surprising they decided to make her more girly looking in typical Japanese fashion.
Eh, with Heavensward on the way along with other games like Zelda and Xenoblade, I'm not all too concerned with what they've changed. Shit gets changed all the time. I like the characters and everything I've seen so far. They just need to show more.
Now... if they got rid of exploration all together, that'd be a different story. But they're not.
Now... if they got rid of exploration all together, that'd be a different story. But they're not.
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YunFang1130
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hhnnnggh I need footage!
Perhaps Luna is Blanche!
threelights
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I mean you should only say stuff that confidently when you know something.
People take what you say too literally.
Not really a matter of how good Tabata is (or isn't).
Exactly, I was just thinking how strange it is that people equate change with bad. Was the original some omnipotent thing that could not be touched? What if it was complete ass?
These are things that we will never know, so it's not worth fretting over.
I understand getting upset about Stella potentially being scrapped, because we were attached to her for so, so long, but I'm not going to assume that the game is bad if that is indeed the case. We simply don't know.
Not really but it certainly sounds better in my opinion is all.
lol
I guess you'd end up having used an avatar for several years that only exists in Nomura's dreams now.
MagnaderAlpha
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If they removed any connection to the FNC myth, I'd probably be more interested. They won't(the logo's a freakin reference), but like it when each game tries to add it's own mythology. Sure, there can be some shared concepts(crystals), but different concepts of life and death, the afterlife(if any), god/gods or lack of always made each different take on what a "Final Fantasy world" is soooo cool.
Well aside from going for max full on generic instead of semi generic no, not really.
I feel like we need to change our wording. The premise/background of the game is still the same. Last crystal, Noctis's kingdom holds it, Noctis is a prince, same friends, crystal gets stolen from Nifelheim, Noctis and Co go out to get it back. We knew this stuff before the game was FFXV and it still holds true with it being FFXV.
Let's say the story has been changed, we can't say "If only Nomura would have stayed" since we have no idea what Nomura envisioned the whole story to be. Nomura's version could be terrible and so they changed it. Nomura's version could be fine and they left it be but with some tuning here and there. Or Tabata simply wanted to make his own story using the background/premise that Nomura has already established. Which ever we get that will be the true story of the game.
Assuming Stella is gone because a new character was introduced and we haven't seen her since doesn't mean she isn't there. We've only had one story trailer since the E3 trailer. She could be gone entirely but her role could either be given to Luna or doesn't serve any purpose anymore. Either way it shouldn't affect the story since we actually don't know the story besides presumptions we have made over the years.
Let's say the story has been changed, we can't say "If only Nomura would have stayed" since we have no idea what Nomura envisioned the whole story to be. Nomura's version could be terrible and so they changed it. Nomura's version could be fine and they left it be but with some tuning here and there. Or Tabata simply wanted to make his own story using the background/premise that Nomura has already established. Which ever we get that will be the true story of the game.
Assuming Stella is gone because a new character was introduced and we haven't seen her since doesn't mean she isn't there. We've only had one story trailer since the E3 trailer. She could be gone entirely but her role could either be given to Luna or doesn't serve any purpose anymore. Either way it shouldn't affect the story since we actually don't know the story besides presumptions we have made over the years.
I'll keep using it lol. No fucks given.
Good, the design few scenes she had made her look cool.
That screen they released waaaaaaay back from the beginning of the project showing Stella standing in the middle of the street at night with her back turned and framed by towering skyscrapers on the left and right remains my favorite shot from the entire history of the project.
What were they attached to? A character design? A picture? That's pretty sad. She wasn't an actual character. I don't get it. All Versus's story was was a bunch of vague concepts and premises. I can't get upset about them changing something that was never well known in the first place.
If Stella is Yuna then it's technically the same character then. Won't matter one way or another.
I think that image encapsulates the promise of Versus XIII more than anything.
It had a strong identity to it.
I don't know what FFXV is.
This shit's pretty powerful man. Even I want this to still be in the game and I laugh at the negativity here over the unknown.
We're pro-life.
I'm afraid to inform you, but I think you have no soul. That's pretty sad.
Same. If it's not in the final game I will be sad. Super sad.
A lot of folks are going to get a crash course on the nature of game development with FFXV. Things change and it really has nothing to do with Nomura or Tabata. They change because they just do.
And how attached to Stella could anyone really be, honestly? If she was a portrayed, developed character, than sure, I would understand.
"She's kind of cute."
That's the most substantive thought I've ever had about Stella. She's not a character yet, she's an idea. That's all that could reasonably be mourned.
threelights
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Why would she be in the 2013 trailer though? =P
Edge_Maverick
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The Moon (Luna) in that screenshot... hmmm 
Nomura was still in charge at that time?
I have no soul because I don't care about the loss of a fictional character who I never interacted with or saw anything about?
lol ok.....
Are you going to get offended if I say I dislike other fictional character to?
Yes there was a lot of cool imagery from versus. It will somewhat be disappointing when the final product dosen't have all of that imagery. That's almost every game though, but I can't fanthom being upset at changes to a story or characters you never knew in the first place. Maybe Stella was going to be a shitty character. Maybe she wasn't. No one knows. Can't really care about that. I mean this is'nt like say them taking out a known character out of a sequel or something. This is the removal of a character that really all you had to go off of was a nice character design.
The Moon (Luna) in that shot... hmmm
LoL, I can't help it whenever you post in a FFXV thread I imagine you doing it after laughing like Hashimoto in your avatar!
Yeah, people are mad about change with stuff like this. Guess what, Versus XIII may have been complete ass...people can't process that sometimes.
Do people really think that they would change this game if it was as untouchable as you'd think judging by some of the people's reactions here? It's kinda of crazy, huh.
But Stella represented this to me more than anything.
This is what sold people on Versus XIII. And frankly, the promise that this picture had was so great that even I think it's understandable that people may be upset over this.
Personally, I'd stop worrying about the background of development or whatever changes. At that point, you're attaching a stigma and just conspiring as to what might have happened without much concrete details. Shit happens. Judge when the actual game is out, not build it up negatively beforehand. It's not fair to anyone.
threelights
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Then they would be lying way too much here.
Tabata joined in 2012.
Also, how much of a story do you need to change in order to take away a character like that? She was probably more important to the story than Ignis, Prompto or Gladio.
JuanLatino
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So no stella --> would mean no Noctis vs Stella Fight
So no stella --> would mean no Noctis vs Stella Fight
It could mean a Noctis vs. Luna fight if Luna is just Stella renamed.
That might be true in the general sense of "change", but I think that with S-E in particular, it's silly to say that it has nothing at all to do with staff changes especially on the director level.
The progression of FFXIV from the disaster that was released and the relaunched ARR absolutely has everything to do with the fact that Tanaka got booted and Yoshida actually found a focus and did a good job with his new core team. It didn't change just because it does, someone has to facilitate the change. Sometimes it's for the better, sometimes it's for the worse.
In the same way, when Versus was cancelled and rebooted internally as XV, they brought on the entire Type-0 team to actually make it from a struggling project into an actual game which would (hopefully) eventually ship. From what we can tell, this team has more or less replaced a significant portion of the original core team making Versus. So sure, things change because sometimes you have to change stuff to be able to release something if an existing concept isn't working for one reason or another. But people have to make those changes.
There is no reason to be upset, not me, not you, not Kagari.
Only eternal and profound sadness would engulf every single one of us.
Can't you feel our pain JoJoSono? We've been waiting for so long for these characters to come to life, just to see them go forever?
No, we cannot. We can't say goodbye just yet.
The problem here is that the total opposite happens, and the conundrum is that the only way we figure this stuff out is by them sharing more information. And if they don't share that information, we don't get upset, but we get upset that they won't share information.
SE is at a lose-lose situation here to the vast majority of diehards.
I agree, and that's exactly what I'm saying.
Exactly this. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Yeah, people are mad about change with stuff like this. Guess what, Versus XIII may have been complete ass...people can't process that sometimes.
Do people really think that they would change this game if it was as untouchable as you'd think judging by some of the people's reactions here? It's kinda of crazy, huh.
But Stella represented this to me more than anything.
This is what sold people on Versus XIII.
Sure. I get that there was a clear vibe and artistry to Versus. It was very Nomura and I mean that in more ways than character design.
I dispute the idea that anyone "knew what Versus was" though. You knew it was a Nomura game. You knew the broad, thematic concepts. You could glean what the tone was from the teasers. But no one ever really knew what the game was because Nomura was never terribly specific in his statements, the game was never played in front of anyone, and there wasn't even any real B-roll of it.
I just think VXIII is a fascinating example of how ideas can marinade and resonate with people, even if nothing is ever really born from them.
XV is finally coming to fruition though.
Fair enough!
I think that image encapsulates the promise of Versus XIII more than anything.
It had a strong identity to it.
I don't know what FFXV is.
This shit's pretty powerful man. Even I want this to still be in the game and I laugh at the negativity here over the unknown.
That scene seems to be quite popular among the lady FF fans. One of my followers on Twitter, did the famous cosplay of her in that scene.
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The same one you had posted, is based off the actual screenshot of the game.
JuanLatino
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Luna looks too well-behaved...She looks like those shy Yuna type of girls
We've literally seen 5 seconds of her. No way to tell that.
That scene seems to be quite popular among the lady FF fans. One of my followers on Twitter, did the famous cosplay of her in that scene.
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This one.
Is the image supposed to be dead?
Implying Stella really has been dropped?
JuanLatino
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yeah thats only my first impression of her
The same with stella who looked like a strong confident woman
Im only judging on their appearances we saw so far.
Yeah, she could have been sitting in a chair on a pile of dead bodies of people she killed.
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