ReturnOfTheRAT
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Looks like Tanner was introduced to the UK just in time.
We totally can export some episodes of Top Gear USA if you want
He's only a couple inches taller than Hammond
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The BBC suspend Jeremy Clarkson (assaulting producer?) cancel rest of Top Gear Season
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He's only a couple inches taller than Hammond
It's a nightmare for the BBC.
Sack him - as you said, less money.
Don't sack him - there will be a backlash of one sort or another.
I suspect the conversation about whether the money is worth the problems is occurring at the top levels of the BBC right now.
I'm willing to bet a few people are bringing up that Top Gear as we know it is getting long in the tooth and maybe it's time for a change now.
JonathanEx
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There's only so much someone can get away with though. As well as their star, the BBC is an employer and he's their employee. He shouldn't be untouchable. Plus, they've had enough management scandals - an employment tribunal for unfair dismissal? Nope, avoid that. Pay the person off? Nope, huge scrutiny of BBC pay deals. That'll get them haaauled towards charter renewal.
But we have no idea what the fracas actually is. Verbal, physical, to what extent of disrespecting a producer it was... so, see what the outcome is. Suspension during investigation, if it's serious enough any decent employer should surely do that.
This reads like a badly translated blurb on the back of a bootleg VHS tape.
300 million people seem to disagree with you
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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You want sum fuck?
Air Zombie Meat
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Don't think people will care that he fell out with a producer. Need more details about this fracas brouhaha hoopla.
Mookie1515
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Racism is a British tradition. Causing a commotion is tantamount to murder, though.
No they are not
I'm not arguing that, I'm presenting what I suspect is an argument being presented.
JonathanEx
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Well, he has several employers. But for the TV show, it's produced within the BBC, he works for them (likely as a freelancer or through a tax shell company - but regardless of how, he works for them).
My point is - he's a big deal for them, but that doesn't put him above the employer/employee relationship.
NullPointer
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(internal screaming)
Triggerhappytel
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I think he's just getting more openly cranky and cantankerous and right-wing as he gets older.
Didn't think it would happen, but eh he will be back
Pfft forget that, I will build my own Top Gear with Blackjack, Hookers and Blow... Ah forget the whole thing I will just play Mario Kart 8 instead.
I misread that as he will be Black and I was like. <(>
Pfft forget that, I will build my own Top Gear with Blackjack, Hookers and Blow... Ah forget the whole thing I will just play Mario Kart 8 instead.
I misread that as he will be Black and I was like. <(
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LoveCake
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Jezza is Top Gear!
I know that no single person can be more than the show (or whatever) but you cannot get much closer to that statement than Jezza & TG.
I met Jezza once at a car show, he was a nice bloke when i met him, i didn't ask him for a autograph though, this is one thing he will not do & hates the whole idea of it, he has stated this on numerous occasions.
I think there is more to this story though, it is known Jezza can get angry quite easily & although TG is 99% scripted on occasions you can see that it is not scripted & you can see the presenters or a single presenter is not happy at all, maybe the producer pushed Jezza too far? i think for Jezza to have hit the producer which is what some people have said, of course it it wrong, but i think it would take something quite extreme for Jezza to hit a producer of the show.
The problem people have with Jezza is that he says what he thinks & doesn't care what anyone thinks of his opinion, now if more people were like this then the world would be a better place, what would it be like for example if politicians said it like it was?
I know that no single person can be more than the show (or whatever) but you cannot get much closer to that statement than Jezza & TG.
I met Jezza once at a car show, he was a nice bloke when i met him, i didn't ask him for a autograph though, this is one thing he will not do & hates the whole idea of it, he has stated this on numerous occasions.
I think there is more to this story though, it is known Jezza can get angry quite easily & although TG is 99% scripted on occasions you can see that it is not scripted & you can see the presenters or a single presenter is not happy at all, maybe the producer pushed Jezza too far? i think for Jezza to have hit the producer which is what some people have said, of course it it wrong, but i think it would take something quite extreme for Jezza to hit a producer of the show.
The problem people have with Jezza is that he says what he thinks & doesn't care what anyone thinks of his opinion, now if more people were like this then the world would be a better place, what would it be like for example if politicians said it like it was?
StealthGoblin
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He won't go for this.
Top Gear is pretty fucked if he does go. I mainly watch to see what over the top shit Clarkson has dreamed up. Most of the brilliant ideas come from him. He doesn't get enough credit for the shows creativity. That said, he can be a total moron. Shame really, he's helped to make one of the most globally liked shows on earth.
Top Gear is pretty fucked if he does go. I mainly watch to see what over the top shit Clarkson has dreamed up. Most of the brilliant ideas come from him. He doesn't get enough credit for the shows creativity. That said, he can be a total moron. Shame really, he's helped to make one of the most globally liked shows on earth.
I think they will fire him. Top Gear should have a shake up anyway, I'd like to see it move away from being a comedy show and go back to it's routes.
I could see Sky (BSkyB) going HAM for Clarkson if he becomes available.
Has it been filmed yet? I thought that whilst some parts were done in advance, and good chunk was also filmed week to week for things like news segments.
Memento Mori
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Fire the face of money-printing Top Gear or sack no-name troublesome producer?
If it's Andy Wilman, then he's basically as responsible for the show as Clarkson.
TheRealGrampa
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Im guessing its because all the studio segments are filmed in the week.
But I like the comedy parts and is the only reason why I watch it honestly.
I am not a car guy. <(>_>)> <(<_<)> <(>_>)>
JonathanEx
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They film on Wednesdays and finish every film for the week's show that week.
What gets me is that they don't tape the entire season before airing it. It seems like the stars in reasonably priced cars happen the very day of the episode they have pre-recording stuff for. Interesting.
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Lactose_Intolerant
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and on that bombshell, goodbye
His last 2 bombshell outros have been pretty epic. Cutting off Hammond and May.
His last 2 bombshell outros have been pretty epic. Cutting off Hammond and May.
Like best friends, I thought. Pretty sure it wasn't Andy.
Exterminieren
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Given what Clarkson's got away with in the past, I'm assuming "fracas" is a euphemism for "genocide".
Going back to their school days, yeah.
The Friendly Monster
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Almost had me there...
DeFiBkIlLeR
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I bet this producer was some kind of smug, metropolitan London leftie cunt with a Guardian Newspaper under his arm.
..hope he did hit him, hard.
..hope he did hit him, hard.
Stereogatari
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That's what I thought until I watched last week's episode. They've still got it.
Memento Mori
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They are which might explain why the BBC has pulled this week's episode. If Clarkson and Wilman have fallen out and become unable to work together can the show even continue?
Air Zombie Meat
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Fracas implies violence to me. Or at least threats of it.
Well, the truth is, it is more about where the line is. Do the stereotypical jokes made on the show constitute racism, or do they fall below that line of decency?
Obviously the most serious charge was Clarkson saying the word 'nigger'. However, he didn't clearly say it, he mumbled the word, in what appeared to be an act of self-censoring. It's not clear, but gathering what was said by Clarkson, that was actually what was originally intended for the show. It was joke about a well known nursery rhyme where people of his age would be more aware of the uncensored version rather than a more 'friendly' version.
Everything else on the show has been stereotypical jokes. I personally don't think they were offensive enough to warrant censoring. Others may obviously disagree. The fact is though, Top Gear has been one of the most watched TV shows in the world for quite some time. It has an audience of over 300 million. I think the sheer size of its audience refutes that argument to some degree.
m_shortpants
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I'm interested in hearing more about the altercation.
Because the studio parts are filmed in the week before the show is aired and he's suspended.
sonikokaruto
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i think jeremy is about to give sexual favors to someone.
LoveCake
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Sky wouldn't have Jezza on a car show on their channels, if they did it would be rubbish like all the other good people that have gone to do shows on Sky, other than Ross Kemps shows the rest have failed.
The other thing is, who wants to watch people driving about in normal everyday cars week in & week out, nobody is going to buy a car because it has had a good review on a TV show, people want to watch people driving about in exotic locations in hypercars going sideways at 1000mph, if you don't' want that & want to watch a consumer show then watch Fifth Gear.
This at 3:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIoFnfMhq_Y
If you're ten & watching this now, then it's exactly as good as you think it is.
This is what Top Gear is all about imo.
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