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If you didn't buy a Wii U, what will the NX have to have for you to consider it?
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Lil'DigiOp
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I would really like for NX to be BC with Wii U. Haven't had the chance to pick one up but that would help me grab one faster.
Hell, I still might grab a Wii U for Wii BC and to fool around with GameCube emulation as well.
Hope Nintendo doesn't exclude the BC. They've been good for it as of late.
Edit: I think that would ease a lot of concerns with the short Wii U lifespan issue, don't you think?
Hell, I still might grab a Wii U for Wii BC and to fool around with GameCube emulation as well.
Hope Nintendo doesn't exclude the BC. They've been good for it as of late.
Edit: I think that would ease a lot of concerns with the short Wii U lifespan issue, don't you think?
HeartlessNobody213
Member
I honestly don't know. I didn't buy a Wii U. The last time I spent money on a Nintendo product was 2008, when I bought a Wii & Brawl. Besides a couple of virtual console games, Brawl was the only game I bought for it.
I sold my Wii 2 years later and Brawl 2 years after that. I think I just realized that Nintendo's IP don't mean that much to me like I thought they did.
For example, the only game I'm interested in on the Wii U is Bayonetta 2. Other than that nothing else interest me.
For the record I don't have a current gen console at the moment and only have a PS3, although I do plan on getting a PS4 when the price drops.
Honestly I can't see myself buying another Nintendo console ever again. The GameCube was the last one I really enjoyed.
I sold my Wii 2 years later and Brawl 2 years after that. I think I just realized that Nintendo's IP don't mean that much to me like I thought they did.
For example, the only game I'm interested in on the Wii U is Bayonetta 2. Other than that nothing else interest me.
For the record I don't have a current gen console at the moment and only have a PS3, although I do plan on getting a PS4 when the price drops.
Honestly I can't see myself buying another Nintendo console ever again. The GameCube was the last one I really enjoyed.
Goldfishking
Member
Third party support - I like some nintendo games but not enough to buy a new console.
Backwards compatability - not necessary but if could play all the wii u games i missed that'll be cool
Good online system - i hear mario kart 8 is good online but i more mean the bigger stuff, like a friends list and party chat
Night Angel
Member
To add on to these:
Third party support
An online account system
A reasonable controller that isn't a gimmick
Aaand it looks like I copied Derpyduck's post. Guess I'm not the only one lol.
You'll probably even get a Shenmue 4 sooner than Nintendo having a unified/a little more than decent account system.
Business
Member
Yeah that's pretty much it I guess for the majority of people.
Great games mostly. I know many people are completely satisfied with the Wii U's current and upcoming titles, but for me it lacks the system sellers that Galaxy or Wind Waker were. Right now it's only got games that I'm interested in (DK, W101, Bayo...) but none that I feel I can't miss.
Petrae
Member
Here's my personal list:
1. Third-party support: If I'm going to consider dropping $300+ on a console, it absolutely needs to have more than just first-party games on it. Sports games must be represented, as well as other popular franchises that I enjoy playing.
2. More data storage space: 32GB is a joke, and adding an external HDD only served to add to the cost of the WiiU... which was a major reason I rejected it. I'd like to think that more space will be included with the next platform release, but this is Nintendo we're talking about here.
3. "The Killer App": WiiU was the first Nintendo console that I never bought, largely because there wasn't that "killer app" that I just HAD to have... like there was with every other box. NES had Super Mario Bros. SNES had Super Mario World & Final Fantasy II. N64 had Mario 64 and the best version of NBA Hangtime. Gamecube had Rogue Leader. Wii had Wii Sports. WiiU never had that game/games that I had to have. Maybe NX will.
4. Achievement/Trophy System: No, Miiverse doesn't count for me... and yes, I know that many GAFfers despise Achievements. Still, I've come to expect them in my gaming experience. Sony, MS, Apple, and Steam all utilize a system of Achievements. They add replay value for me and, depending on how creative the Achievements are, they can get me to experiment and play games in a different way.
1. Third-party support: If I'm going to consider dropping $300+ on a console, it absolutely needs to have more than just first-party games on it. Sports games must be represented, as well as other popular franchises that I enjoy playing.
2. More data storage space: 32GB is a joke, and adding an external HDD only served to add to the cost of the WiiU... which was a major reason I rejected it. I'd like to think that more space will be included with the next platform release, but this is Nintendo we're talking about here.
3. "The Killer App": WiiU was the first Nintendo console that I never bought, largely because there wasn't that "killer app" that I just HAD to have... like there was with every other box. NES had Super Mario Bros. SNES had Super Mario World & Final Fantasy II. N64 had Mario 64 and the best version of NBA Hangtime. Gamecube had Rogue Leader. Wii had Wii Sports. WiiU never had that game/games that I had to have. Maybe NX will.
4. Achievement/Trophy System: No, Miiverse doesn't count for me... and yes, I know that many GAFfers despise Achievements. Still, I've come to expect them in my gaming experience. Sony, MS, Apple, and Steam all utilize a system of Achievements. They add replay value for me and, depending on how creative the Achievements are, they can get me to experiment and play games in a different way.
Stallion Dan
Member
Be very cheap with games that drop in price a couple months after launch.
It'll be fighting for a spot as a secondary console at best, it cannot compete at premium price. Just like Wii U can't.
It'll be fighting for a spot as a secondary console at best, it cannot compete at premium price. Just like Wii U can't.
King Gilga
Member
- Region Free
- Decent Steam/PSN/XBL level account system
- Normal controller (I really enjoyed wiimotes but I'm kinda over them.)
- BC
- Games that actually drop in price
- Network sales that include Nintendo games, not just small e shop stuff
- Reasonably priced
- decent specs
tbh I doubt I'd still consider buying it unless it really is the weird portable console hybrid thing that keeps coming up.
- Decent Steam/PSN/XBL level account system
- Normal controller (I really enjoyed wiimotes but I'm kinda over them.)
- BC
- Games that actually drop in price
- Network sales that include Nintendo games, not just small e shop stuff
- Reasonably priced
- decent specs
tbh I doubt I'd still consider buying it unless it really is the weird portable console hybrid thing that keeps coming up.
Oppo
Member
nailed it
I don't even care about the last one so much as long as there is a fallback (pro controller etc), but the first two are mandatory
dickgumshoe
Member
To the people asking for third party support: So you would buy the NX as primary console (otherwise it shouldn't matter to you)? Would you really consider buying the NX over a new sony or microsoft console?
WeAreStarStuff
Member
Decent specs. I would love to play Nintendo games again.
Brad Grenz
Member
I hope it's a portable or portable/home hybrid with reasonably powerful, contemporary technology. That would make it the first Nintendo system I'll have bought since the GBA SP.
semiconscious
Member
same. up for handheld, but no more nintendo tv-based console for me...
Red Liquorice
Member
I need more than just the next batch of Nintendo IP sequels.
Petrae
Member
Yup. I would've bought a WiiU if that was the case now. I'm not one to buy multiple modern consoles anymore; I'm going to pick the one that gives me the experience I want. WiiU failed by not having third-party support, so I went PS4 instead. I'll miss out on a few WiiU games, but not $300 worth of experience.
If the next Nintendo console has third-party support and offers the games I want to play, then I'd consider it-- though, it's likely coming at a time that's mid-to-late Gen8, so I might wind up waiting to see what Sony & MS will have to offer for their next boxes before I make up my mind.
Lucky Seven
Banned
Just a Fire Emblem and third party support. But not one without the other.
Dr. Buni
Member
It would need to last more than 4 years, for starters, which means I would only buy it after the following console was announced (assuming there would be one).
In terms of library, more new and fresh games like Splatoon and less sequels to 20 years old franchises.
But I do have a Wii U, so my opinion doesn't count
In terms of library, more new and fresh games like Splatoon and less sequels to 20 years old franchises.
But I do have a Wii U, so my opinion doesn't count
DryvBy
Member
I have a Wii U thanks to my wife but I'm commenting on how to get me to buy one Day Uno.
No gimmicks. No mandatory VR. No motion controls. No screen controller. No small DVDs. Just a typical console with a unique online experience. Miiverse is actually kinda cool so expand on it. Work on keeping the system BC with Wii/Wii U games and upscale them as an option.
No gimmicks. No mandatory VR. No motion controls. No screen controller. No small DVDs. Just a typical console with a unique online experience. Miiverse is actually kinda cool so expand on it. Work on keeping the system BC with Wii/Wii U games and upscale them as an option.
BC, no stupid gimmicks, decent specs, account system + good online, no region lock, more new IPs without Nintendo icons and most important, some kind of feeling that they (or should I say the market?) believe in what they're doing because I don't want a dead console after few years.
I'd also like to see Nintendo to step up at least once in those genres that they avoid because of the competition. They always avoid competition, this drives me crazy, they act like they were some noobs with no experience.
I'd also like to see Nintendo to step up at least once in those genres that they avoid because of the competition. They always avoid competition, this drives me crazy, they act like they were some noobs with no experience.
AntiFacebook
Member
I did buy the wiiu, but for me to buy the NX,it will have to have
- a decent third party support
- a normal account system
- enough power to run multiplatform game
- a decent third party support
- a normal account system
- enough power to run multiplatform game
lebowski4ever
Neo Member
nothing. nintendo haven't been on my radar for years.
These two are needed along with a good launch game. That said I think I'm gonna wait 2 years for the major prices drops before getting Nintendo's next console.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
virtual reality headset and vr troopers launch game
TC McQueen
Member
-Decent specs
-Low price
-Catalog compatibility with the next handheld
-Backwards compatibility with Wii U would be nice
-No region lock and no Vita level hassles to switch region accounts
-Low price
-Catalog compatibility with the next handheld
-Backwards compatibility with Wii U would be nice
-No region lock and no Vita level hassles to switch region accounts
MannyToons
Member
- No region lock
- A good level of power (please at least be up to snuff with the Xbone/PS4 by release)
- Normal controller
- Account system
- Better online network features
- More games (the Wii U is still missing so many titles from previous consoles that, at this point, I don't see making it to the console before the next one drops. Where's Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Tennis/Golf/Baseball/Strikers, Punch-Out, Pokemon, a true 3D Mario title that isn't essentially a port of a 3DS title (just my opinion), etc.)
*Sigh* Even if the console did drop with none of these features present, I'd likely still cave and buy it. I feel like a battered and abused Nintendo fan, ha.
- A good level of power (please at least be up to snuff with the Xbone/PS4 by release)
- Normal controller
- Account system
- Better online network features
- More games (the Wii U is still missing so many titles from previous consoles that, at this point, I don't see making it to the console before the next one drops. Where's Animal Crossing, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Tennis/Golf/Baseball/Strikers, Punch-Out, Pokemon, a true 3D Mario title that isn't essentially a port of a 3DS title (just my opinion), etc.)
*Sigh* Even if the console did drop with none of these features present, I'd likely still cave and buy it. I feel like a battered and abused Nintendo fan, ha.
Specs are nice and all but a lot of the good Wii U games run at 60fps and they don't look bad, in fact a lot of the games on the Wii U look fantastic
I'd happily take weaker specs if the games still look good and run well
Train of Midnight
Banned
Lol people that dont like the tablet can't really ask for BC because then you'd need the tablet.
1st Course
Member
- $200 max
- no gimmicky bullshit (tablet, motion control etc)
- good account system
- good os
- good games
- no gimmicky bullshit (tablet, motion control etc)
- good account system
- good os
- good games
spazchicken
Member
Building an underpowered console around a gimmick, is harmful because it's asking third parties to make exclusives every time they develop for a Nintendo platform. In this day and age, for most publishers/developers, nobody is that special, not even Nintendo.
DryvBy
Member
A lot of them are 720p too. No harm in shooting for a quality system in the stat department unless you're saying to save money.
Chû Totoro
Member
I think we could say it like this : If you didn't buy a Wii U you don't like Nintendo games.
So these people won't buy the NX because even if NX have a lot of multi-platform games people are going to stay with other systems.
And I can add : If you didn't buy a 3DS you don't like Japanese games.
PS : we all know both Wii U and 3DS have a lot of awesome indie games but I'm sure people enjoy at least the most remarkable games so the only justification imo is "don't like Nintendo games" (like the main motive for me is "like Nintendo games")
So these people won't buy the NX because even if NX have a lot of multi-platform games people are going to stay with other systems.
And I can add : If you didn't buy a 3DS you don't like Japanese games.
PS : we all know both Wii U and 3DS have a lot of awesome indie games but I'm sure people enjoy at least the most remarkable games so the only justification imo is "don't like Nintendo games" (like the main motive for me is "like Nintendo games")
McHuj
Member
I have a WiiU, I would get a NX if it's cheap enough.
I think if Nintendo really wanted to get multiplatform support, they would have to launch later and within a year of the next Xbox/PS while matching their specs. Otherwise, people will continue to play multiplatform games where they currently are. You get that opportunity for a platform switch at the start of a generation.
So with the above in the not going to happen, I think Nintendo needs a modern, powerful, yet cheap system. If the home console comes out in 2017, I think they could put a system that easily surpasses the WiiU (without a tablet) for around $199. It doesn't have to be more powerful than even the Xbone, it just needs a robust modern architecture that's developer friendly.
I think if Nintendo really wanted to get multiplatform support, they would have to launch later and within a year of the next Xbox/PS while matching their specs. Otherwise, people will continue to play multiplatform games where they currently are. You get that opportunity for a platform switch at the start of a generation.
So with the above in the not going to happen, I think Nintendo needs a modern, powerful, yet cheap system. If the home console comes out in 2017, I think they could put a system that easily surpasses the WiiU (without a tablet) for around $199. It doesn't have to be more powerful than even the Xbone, it just needs a robust modern architecture that's developer friendly.
True, but that doesn't make them less fun
To me, considering a Nintendo console will always be a companion console, as a large % of the games I want to play are not going to be on available on a Nintendo system, it needs to be cheap, so I can buy a PC/Sony/MS system to play most of the games I want, then the Nintendo system for the classic Nintendo games
Decent online + account system: This is a big deal for me. I'd love to purchase everything Nintendo offers digitally, but I need to feel a) safe that I will have my purchases without needing to hang onto that specific piece of hardware and b) connected with my friends in the same way I am on Xbox/PS4.
Reasonable Bang-for-your-Buck: To be completely honest, I don't mind that the Wii U is underpowered vs the alternatives. My big problem is that it costs nearly the same amount as the Xbox One. If the next console is STILL less powerful than the PS4/XB1 but had a price advantage then I'd be more than happy to buy.
First-Party Games that I care about: Yes, I'm going to be selfish. I don't want a system riddled with games that I have no interest in playing. I am confident that the next Nintendo system will have another Mario Kart, Mario Party, or Smash Bros. I'm not worried about those, nor am I particularily excited to play a similar-feeling Mario Kart or Smash Bros experience for the upteenth time. What I want is that new Zelda they are talking about. That is the first Nintendo game I've been excited about since Mario Galaxy 2. I also want a new Metroid, F-Zero, and Earthbound. What about a console, online Pokemon experience? A new 3D Mario platformer like Sunshine, 64, or Galaxy?
I want them to embrace their roots and younger audiences alike. I'll take the kid-friendly games but if they can make a few more mature games in the process. I don't mean mature in the 'Gore, Nudity, and Swearing' sense. I mean mature in a gameplay sense.
Reasonable Bang-for-your-Buck: To be completely honest, I don't mind that the Wii U is underpowered vs the alternatives. My big problem is that it costs nearly the same amount as the Xbox One. If the next console is STILL less powerful than the PS4/XB1 but had a price advantage then I'd be more than happy to buy.
First-Party Games that I care about: Yes, I'm going to be selfish. I don't want a system riddled with games that I have no interest in playing. I am confident that the next Nintendo system will have another Mario Kart, Mario Party, or Smash Bros. I'm not worried about those, nor am I particularily excited to play a similar-feeling Mario Kart or Smash Bros experience for the upteenth time. What I want is that new Zelda they are talking about. That is the first Nintendo game I've been excited about since Mario Galaxy 2. I also want a new Metroid, F-Zero, and Earthbound. What about a console, online Pokemon experience? A new 3D Mario platformer like Sunshine, 64, or Galaxy?
I want them to embrace their roots and younger audiences alike. I'll take the kid-friendly games but if they can make a few more mature games in the process. I don't mean mature in the 'Gore, Nudity, and Swearing' sense. I mean mature in a gameplay sense.