Tal Shiar Agent
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A lot of of my friends hop on their PS3s every weekend to play Black Ops 2.
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Call of Duty: Black Ops III Announced - 26th April Full Reveal
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Please provide evidence to support this and not statements.
I play more serious competitive modes, where there is no radar, so your example of blast supression is moot. If you play the casual lists, I suggest giving hardcore a try. IMO AW has one of the best hardcore playlists compared to the other CODs in gameplay, strategy, and maps.
What I mean by perkfest is COD AW consciously reduces the frequency of killstreak rewards, and they are much more toned down than previous CODs so it's not a perkfest.
They're like the least tactical maps in the series rofl, just jump jump around and fucking chaos. It's fine to like the game, it's even fine to think it's the best CoD so far, but it's a fact that the exo movement and terrible map design has made the game the most chaotic CoD so far.
e: i do agree that reducing the amount of, uh, killer killstreaks was a step in the right direction, though. i'm not mindlessly hating on aw, it was nice not getting killed by aerial bombings all the time.
system hack is shit tho
This was my experience as well. Everyone jumped on the train at launch and that number dwindled far faster than ever in the past. I did not last beyond a month or so and I'm usual playing COD from launch through the next launch.
Exo and corresponding map design is what killed it for me. The single player was the best in recent memory, but the multiplayer and TTK, spawns and swiss cheese maps all combined with exo movement cratered my interest. The skill based matchmaking and lag comp sealed the deal for me and the bulk of my friends.
Are you serious? Load up ANY COD and you see 'Hardcore' as a descriptor.
Tal Shiar Agent
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My statements are evidence enough. In case you weren't aware there is something called personal truth. Those statements are true for me and a great many other people. Just because it isn't true for you doesn't mean it isn't true to others.
AW does the opposite of reducing killstreaks. Go play Domination and count how many bombing runs or system hacks are called per game, it's staggering. It's a direct result of SHG failing to balance the mode correctly and giving too many points for initial captures, neutralizations, and kills. They actually increased points given to increase the frequency of killstreaks.
Hardcore isn't representative of the majority of the game, yet hardcore players always seem to have a superiority complex.
Rogue_element
Banned
I just want a COD on this gen that's on par with the CODS on last gen. Cos it sure as shit hasn't happened yet.
GenericUser
Member
Somebody should take the exo movement stuff out of my cod. Like being futuristic and all and jumping around and endless sprinting and all doesn't fit into the call of duty franchise.
They should create new series, incorporate these elements into a new game and they should call it "titanfall".
If blops 3 has exo movements, I won't buy it. Simple as that. I doubt that even treyarch can make these things fun.
They should create new series, incorporate these elements into a new game and they should call it "titanfall".
If blops 3 has exo movements, I won't buy it. Simple as that. I doubt that even treyarch can make these things fun.
You must have not have seen the cyborg on the cover leaked. I mean fast movements and infinite run May be confirmed at this point. For sure we will have wall running.
Hardcore has an inherently lower skill ceiling than normal competitive gametypes.
Why are we repeating ourselves over and over again. Exo's in, we out. The cover shows a man who appears to have had most if not all of his limbs replaced with cybernetics. Shinobi also did not state if "exo movement" will be in. Just a stronger, faster soldier who can wall-run.
That's not necessarily true.
That's not necessarily true.
Brohenheim
Member
Yes I know there is a hardcore playlist. I was wondering about the "newb casual" playlist. Correct me if I'm wrong but, isn't there not a hardcore classic playlist? Because that's where I spend most of my time on AW. That and momentum which I don't think has a hardcore mode
But at least AW tried to do something different. It is starting to get stale so why not try something different. It was a success. Treyarch doesn't need to use exo suits but I am sure they will find some way to make the gameplay faster. CoD has been the madden of shooters, they need to add something other than just updating the guns, maps, perks, modes and streaks. IMO they should have just released a stand-alone Zombie game skip the whole other game and start somewhere somewhat different. Imagine fighting zombies while vs another team trying to get the higher zombie kills. Would it work? Probably not but at least it is something different.
Gee I dunno, maybe people are calling it trash not because it's faster paced or tries to innovate the series (or is it innovate with? Dictionaries are terrible), but because the combination of the movement, map design and the usual CoD first-to-shoot-gets-the-kill TTK is trash?
I admit I don't actively read CoD discussions, but I personally haven't come across anyone who's actively been saying they want a CoD with double jumps and boosts and dashes and whatnot. I sure as hell didn't want it, there are better online shooters for that stuff.
Pretty much.
No they don't.
Duxxy3
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But what if this is exactly what people want? Millions of copies of Fifa and Madden are sold every year. Very little is changed from year to year, but the same people come back.
Not everyone is like you. I don't want 30 WWII COD FPS games. Actually, it feels like there already are.
Since we don't have player count numbers for game modes, I still think the majority of people are not playing hardcore so that point still stands but not for you of course. I honestly never really considered the hardcore mode in COD to be serious.
When I played COD with my non-hardcore gaming friends (I don't know a better term to describe) they would always recommended we play Hardcore because it was easier. So I was under the impressions that casual players started in hardcore then came to the regular playlist. Later, we would play the competitive game modes for the easy xp and quick killstreaks. Although, I don't have anything besides anecdotal observations to show hardcore is easier.
You still have not provided proof for your widespread claims. It may be YOUR opinion. Have you played Domination before? In EVERY COD, Domination is a killstreak fest. People routinely play that gamemode to increase their K/D by hanging back and do not play objective at all. I don't see the AW Domination mode being any different to every other COD. Now I do see a huge difference in killstreak application in AW compared to the other COD's in the other more normal gametypes, where they have less of a profound impact and are less frequent.
I'm pretty sure it is an exo suit but not the kind in Advanced Warfare, the kind people seem to think will be in Black Ops 3. Apparently all exosuits = jetpacks, jumping everywhere, 50 perks with it, etc. but that's not the case at all. Look at these guys, they all have exosuits of some kind does that mean they all work the same way? Of course not! Same situation for the guy on the BO3 coverart, just because he has on an exo suit does not mean it will work the same way exosuits did in Advanced Warfare.
And I'm pretty sure they will be completely different because Kevin Spacey and Atlas aren't even in the same universe as the Black Ops series.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
I'm pretty sure it is an exo suit but not the kind in Advanced Warfare, the kind people seem to think will be in Black Ops 3. Apparently all exosuits = jetpacks, jumping everywhere, 50 perks with it, etc. but that's not the case at all. Look at these guys, they all have exosuits of some kind does that mean they all work the same way? Of course not! Same situation for the guy on the BO3 coverart, just because he has on an exo suit does not mean it will work the same way exosuits did in Advanced Warfare.
And I'm pretty sure they will be completely different because Kevin Spacey and Atlas aren't even in the same universe as the Black Ops series.
Shinobi already told us its cybernetics. People should delete this "exo" word from their mind.
When? All I've ever heard is that it's too much of a twitch shooter, and that it needs more strategy and depth.
I'm hoping they really shock us with a much deeper game, and far less micro-transactions, so we feel more rewarded for accomplishing things. I was really impressed with AW's visuals and the tweaks they made to the controls, but ultimately found myself choosing Destiny over it 90% of the time until it became 100%. Its time for something big from this series.
Duxxy3
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I'm not against dashing, but I think that the net code has trouble keeping up with that movement. Wall running... well, there hasn't been a full description of what that means. Is it wall running like titanfall or prince of persia? Is it wall running as a replacement for mantling?
If it is like titanfall, then 3arc will need to adjust the control scheme accordingly. Something that SH refused to do. Going back and forth from the right stick to the X/A button is as clunky a scheme as you can get, especially when other games (older games) were able to have a smooth scheme.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
I enjoyed AW, but it wasn't perfect. I much preferred BO2, mostly because of how great the maps were. I am not really worried about this game as Treyarch seem to nail map design, and if they do continue with the exo suits, I am pretty excited to see what they do with them.
I almost bought one of those expensive controllers that have extra/duplicate buttons on the back
Glad I didn't, I realized AW would pretty much be the only game I'd play with the controller.
Claw your controller dude.....I had no problems aiming and jumping at the same time.
-Pyromaniac-
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To me if it's not exo suits it will be wall running and super dashing or whatever like shinobi mentioned.
Why must any of it exist. When I watch vids of COD games from black ops and earlier I can't help but wonder what went wrong. It's like watching a totally different game.
when did people say cod wa to slow?
Why.... Can't blops3 be one of those better games?
MrRoflWaffles
Member
Boosts and dashes thanks to endo enhancements, I think I can live with this. Zombies is my domain, though.
What did you lot think about Exo suits in AW's Exo Zombies? Seeing as we're getting some movement modifiers in BO3, what do you think the key changes need to be that keep it being a fun zombies mode you'll enjoy?
What did you lot think about Exo suits in AW's Exo Zombies? Seeing as we're getting some movement modifiers in BO3, what do you think the key changes need to be that keep it being a fun zombies mode you'll enjoy?
Duxxy3
Member
https://youtu.be/LsfAbumwkhk
Follow this channel if you're interested in the game. A lot of stuff gets leaked through here. Also James C Burns is a cool guy.
Whatever happens in the game I would expect to see Frank Woods involved at some point.
Follow this channel if you're interested in the game. A lot of stuff gets leaked through here. Also James C Burns is a cool guy.
Whatever happens in the game I would expect to see Frank Woods involved at some point.
Why can't CoD just be CoD and let the other games do the fast-paced jump-around run-on-the-walls gameplay stuff?
Kombatologist
Neo Member
If you look at Valve's Steam and Game Stats, BOPS2 is clearly being played more than AW. Considering the fact that Steam is the largest distributor of digital PC games, I'd say that's a close, if not accurate assessment. As for console data, I couldn't tell you either. COD has always been more popular on Xbox platforms, so that would be the stat to look for. Major Nelson doesn't do his LIVE Activity lists anymore, unfortunately, but there's supposed to be a similar list within the Xbox Marketplace if anyone is willing to check (my 360 and One aren't hooked up).
It's probably worth noting that all of my friends have stopped playing AW as well, so Duxxy3 isn't alone there. I've been playing COD games since COD2, and each game has usually lasted me until the next entry. AW is the first in the series to bore me half to death within the first couple of months. I really tried to like it, but it's just not my cup of tea.
MarkMclovin
Member
In for the SP campaign.
Nothing else about CoD is decent amymore.
Nothing else about CoD is decent amymore.
MrRoflWaffles
Member
Do the new lists show actual numbers or just what's been played most and show them in order? I know that BO2 on 360 pushes something like 75-90k peak players these days (just from looking in the menus), but don't know where exactly to find any exact numbers in the Marketplace on my 360.
Kombatologist
Neo Member
I'm not sure. I'm curious about that myself.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Spltscreen is dead. And if there is splitscreen, it will run bad.
If anyone would make the effort it would be Treyarch.
They attempted 4-player split-screen on last-gen for zombies (that's insane), just because they knew it would be something people would want. They really put the effort in.