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PS Vita System software 3.50 adds 30% more memory for game use.
- Thread starter Parakeetman
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I'm pretty sure that the Mono VM used by Unity is not bundled inside the Vita OS.
Port begging Vita games isn't enough, now the PS4 also needs the Vita's memory update
AcceptableGhost
Member
People keep saying Vita is dead and then we get such an update
To be fair the reason why this happened is probably because they are confident that they are done adding (major features) to the OS...
?? 3.50 is already out. Released simultaneously with the last big PS4 update.
Wow! My vita has been neglected for months. It's charging at the moment.
Andrefpvs
Member
Oh yeah? What do you think the noun to the "handheld" adjective is? It certainly isn't "toaster" or "washing machine" or "nothing".
BibiMaghoo
Member
Come on man, everyone knows it's a Super Handheld Entertainment System. They can't be consoles...
Because they have no games.
I love my Vita
Green Yoshi
Member
Think further. MGS 4 - Guns of the Patriots Deluxe Edition.
Too bad that my memory card got broken two months after I bought the Vita (It says C4-10278-8 error if I try to format it)
Think even further. MGS V with morpheus support.
Love the Vita, love this news. Now, if we could just improve the interface...
And I don't mean improving things from the bubbles we currently have. Not just them at least. I've noticed that some games take longer to go from bubble to page form and i've never understood why, let alone why some games say "Preparing to start the application" while others only do so once, that being the first time they boot up.
And I don't mean improving things from the bubbles we currently have. Not just them at least. I've noticed that some games take longer to go from bubble to page form and i've never understood why, let alone why some games say "Preparing to start the application" while others only do so once, that being the first time they boot up.
That's really Konami and Capcom's fault for not re-releasing those games on digital.
Drilbit777
Member
Well SE did say a while back they needed the vita to get updated so that they could get FF Agito working on it. Hopefully now that can finally get going.
Portable Ops is in the EU store, and Powered Up in the JP store?
That was an Unity Update, and it is avaliable as wel.
Drilbit777
Member
SE seriously needs to release the star ocean remakes and Crisis Core on PSN. Its ridiculous how those games aren't available on there.
Kindred Dread
Neo Member
If Sony actually announced this back when 3.50 was released they would have gotten a lot of nice attention. It also makes me want to see other apps like Welcome Park, email, and calender get the boot and free up some potential space (or my screen at least).
Too bad we don't get much support. I couldn't care less for most western devs, but if we could get more imports...
Too bad we don't get much support. I couldn't care less for most western devs, but if we could get more imports...
HitCtrlAltDel
Member
We got a "30% memory upgrade" but we know how exactly much RAM was reserved before? Vita has 512MB, was 128MB reserved? It's just a guess, I can't find anything online.
OccamsLightsaber
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It doesn't matter to anyone but developers.
You're probably right. I do remember reading on the capcom site(I think) that it was a compatibility issue with powered up. No idea about Ops.
If I remember correctly, the 512mb were split evenly between OS and games. Vita also has 128mb vram.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
As someone planning to release a Vita game later this year, this news pleases me greatly.
People keep saying Vita is dead and then we get such an update
I think PS Vita could get 500 games a year on top of its existing catalogue of >1000 games (including PSP, PS1 games) etc and many people would still declare it as dead.
People are of course referring to the number of sales, but as long as PS Vita's large catalogue of games and independent developers keep releasing games for it, then the number of sales is irrelevant for consumers, so I don't see why people keep emphasizeing an attribute that is irrelevant for consumers.
Crimsonsky
Member
Shouldn't be a problem. The Vita is technically superior to the ps2, and slightly more powerful than even the Wii. The ps3 and xbox360 beat it, but not by as much as you would expect.
Is CSH already starved for memory?
I don't think emulating a system is simply a matter of "oh yeah it's technically superior so it shouldn't be a problem". From a software engineering point of view it's probably much more complex than that since PS2 and PS Vita have completely different hardware architectures.
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
To be honest, I've mostly focusing on the PC & PS4 versions at the moment. I don't think CSH will have memory problems on Vita, but the less optimization I have to do, the better in my book.
HitCtrlAltDel
Member
So this means that the usable system RAM went from 256MB to 333MB. Thats a pretty big difference.
FunkyDealer
Banned
There's no point since the Vita is about 544p IIRC, it's significantly less than 720p anyway. So the best choice would be a native res output @ 60FPS and as high a bitrate as possible. The video would be downscaled anyway.
completely impossible
The Vita isn't just slightly more powerful than the Wii , Its way closer to PS3 and Xbox 360 power.
diffusionx
Gold Member
It's impossible.
You don't know what you're talking about.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
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Lots of folks are looking forward to your guys work so hurry up with that release! lol. Most def am sure a lot of devs will find this news interesting.
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Lots of folks are looking forward to your guys work so hurry up with that release! lol. Most def am sure a lot of devs will find this news interesting.
They're one and the same.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Considering they both use the same system software yes. Its also already been released in Japan since the 26th of last month.
http://www.jp.playstation.com/psvita/update/
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Doesnt matter as you folks would never know anyways and its not like they really would announce it either. Unless in one of those highly sanitized game media outlet interviews with the devs. Its not exactly a marketable bulletpoint really. As the average user does not know enough about the backend stuff for it to have any real meaning to them. As long as the performance of the title is good that is basically all that matters and what it will be judged by. Not said title uses the newly freed up 30% memory. Do not really see how claiming it in public would really help them out either. As depending on how the title was made only way to show a difference would be having a patched / unpatched version if that was the route said title went on.
Could imagine that devs with more recent titles already did make use of it considering the close contact with Sony during the development period and after the title gets a patch which updates the game.
For example Bandai Namco who is quite heavy with Vita development along side Tecmo Koei would be 2 developers that I most def would see having the information ahead of time so they can work the feature into their titles.
Generally its not information the public needs to know and not something that would be the smartest thing to market either.
Maybe RE Rev2?
autoduelist
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They got burnt bad not reserving enough on the PS3 at first, which is why they had so many problems adding an in game xmb, why the store is so slow, etc.
It's far better to reserve too much at first. Same with PS4.
For those that don't totally 'get' what added memory is.
Consider an android building stuff on a desk.
Storage (hdd, mem cards, etc) = desk drawers to keep tools and parts not in use.
Desktop (Ram) = the amount of space the android has to take out tools and parts and do work
Android = speed of android determined by the cpu, graphics card, etc.
so, for example, 'load time' is how long it takes to get the stuff from the drawers to the desktop plus doing anything with those parts to get them ready for use.
So now the android, for future games, will have more space to do things. That's a good thing. But as a general rule, when running old games it won't know about that extra space unless told about it and how best to make use of it (via patching).
That's oversimplified, but it gives a sense of things. There's also a lot of overlap. For example, say you have a speed run style game -- if you have more memory, you might be able to keep a 'pure state' version of the current level in memory, allowing the player to have 'instant restarts'. If you don't have enough mem, you may need to reload some stuff to restart the level (starting enemy positions, whatever, etc). So more memory can speed up a game in some ways...but it's highly dependent on implementation.
That said, most existing games likely won't benefit since the games are coded to use a specific amount of memory. some exceptions could apply in specific circumstances, but i don't know enough about the vita to speak to it.