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CS:GO is Hard as Fuck to Be "Decent" At

Dubz

Member
I've been playing this for the last 2 weeks about 2-3 hours a day after work, and I still suck ass. I think I've gone positive about 5 times out of a dozens and dozens of matches. When does this shit start "clicking"?
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I've been playing this for the last 2 weeks about 2-3 hours a day after work, and I still suck ass. I think I've gone positive about 5 times out of a dozens and dozens of matches. When does this shit start "clicking"?

What exactly do you expect? You play some matches and suddenly you are a pro? Do you like the game? Then it "clicked" if not it probably won't happen.

People have been playing GO (and every other Counter Strike) for years now.
 
Play deathmatch, and watch pro matches. Chances are you think you're learning good habits but you're actually just digging yourself into a rut.

Crosshair placement is imperative - start with DM, always, and get used to keeping your mouse at head height. There's obviously a LOT more to it, but that should be a good start.

CS is one of those games that doesn't just "click". You have to put in a lot of time. That's just the way it is!
 

Dubz

Member
What exactly do you expect? You play some matches and suddenly you are a pro? Do you like the game? Then it "clicked" if not it probably won't happen.

People have been playing GO (and every other Counter Strike) for years now.

I used to play Source back in the day and I was decent. I guess I'm just getting rustrated. Tips?
 

Falk

that puzzling face
People have been playing GO (and every other Counter Strike) for years now.

Try a decade and a half.

Kind of like when Dota2 (or LoL and HoN) prior introduced matchmaking to the genre, it passively provided an incentive for people to improve moreso than when the game was just finding Use Map Settings with the latest version of DotA in TFT. That's happening with CS:GO for Counter-Strike, too.

If you enjoy it, keep at it. Otherwise, don't bother.
 

Qassim

Member
I've been playing CS for probably 12-13 years and I only consider myself "decent". CS is a game with a lot of depth and nuance derived out of easy to understand mechanics, a lot of people feel like they should be better because they can see and intuitively understand the mechanics but putting them all into play effectively simultaneously is something that most often requires thousands of hours of play to consider them "mastered".
 

pelicansurf

Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Haha, good luck. Unless you're a prodigy, the learning curve is huge, because you're playing against people who are legitimately good at the game. That and thousands of hours of experience against beginners.

do meth
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
I used to play Source back in the day and I was decent. I guess I'm just getting rustrated. Tips?

Stop caring about being positive. I suck at CS. I always sucked at CS. I lose against bots. But I enjoy playing it so I'll continue to do so. Try some different modes as well, some of them are pretty fun.

If you actually want some gameplay tips...well, I think you probably can tell that I'm not the right person to ask. ;)

Try a decade and a half

1.5 is still the best.
I'm old now. I feel old.
 

Capitan

Member
yeah i'm usually better after a bit of warmup in deathmatch. i think if you just jump into normal mode, and start sucking, it's hard to get the hang of it because you spend too much time dead.
i'm also not very good, but yeah.
 

z1ggy

Member
It's a game to takes time to master or to be decent at. It's fun when you learn to aim to the head.
 
Edit; I didnt know what level you are on, you say youve played Source before so I assume youre familiar with the game this is something you know already

Learn how the weapons handle, their recoil and spray patterns. The "Recoil Master" map on the steam workshop is quite good, and practice on Deathmatch servers. Before you go into some "competitive matchmaking", try and learn some smoke throws, there are a lot of good guides on Steam and Youtube.

WarOwl has some good beginner guides
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheWarOwl
 

Hip Hop

Member
Yeah, it is pretty hard.

I consider myself pretty bad, and I've played it for around 300 hours almost all in competitive matchmaking.

I've been Silver Master Elite ever since I started playing.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
It looks intimidating, but I've often told myself if I ever get into a multiplayer shooter again it'll probably be CS. Over the last few years I've simply found that I prefer leaner, more "stable" multiplayer games without too many gimmicks and with relatively small player counts. I just got tired of how chaotic COD is and see CS as opposite to it. Also, I like NeoTokyo a lot which is fairly similar to CS.

I've found a good thing to start with is Arms Race which at least get's you familiar with the weapons and maps. I also play with bots to get a grasp on the basic mechanics of the game.
 

Ishan

Junior Member
11 years consider myself okay now . Was decent earlier . Cs has a massive skill curve and depends on who you're comparing to . I do to high ranked competitive. Mm players . If I come to someone new I'm probably skilled (1337 :p)
 

Dubz

Member
I wish there were 5 vs 5 casual matches. The jump from Casual to Competitive is enormous. Especially when there is no mode to train you for Competitive.
 
It's not a tradtional shooter, there's no moment in which the game will suddenly "click", you have to try really hard to improve.

Learning maps is one of the most pivotal aspects of the game. Learning "spots"...where to play and sit. Pro players tend to master a spot, and play that spot exclusively in teams.

Then you need to learn;
- Smokes and flashes for each map. Learn what "pop flashes" are, and where they are on each map.

- Crosshair placement, the most important thing to learn in CSGO that'll instantly make you better.

- Learning what to buy, and the concept of "eco" and an "eco round".

- Roles. Learn them...get a feel for what type of player you are. "Lurker", "Entry Fragger", "Support", "Awper" etc. There's other more niche stuff too.

- Strats. Learn various strats and executions...rimportant for competitive group play.

All of this stuff can be googled, and there's a wealth of resources and videos online, youtube in particular. You can sit in casual lobbies forever and still have fun, but at it's core, CSGO / Counterstrike in general is a purely competitive game. One of the best things for overcoming competitive anxiety is to simply play ranked matches exclusively. When you get better, you'll naturally climb. Don't play for rank...play to improve.
 

-MD-

Member
Honestly takes a few hundred hours (+) to get decent. That seems to be the case with every Valve game though, they all have incredibly high skill ceilings.
 

Qassim

Member
I wish there were 5 vs 5 casual matches. The jump from Casual to Competitive is enormous. Especially when there is no mode to train you for Competitive.

It is very dumb the way they setup casual, it bares little resemblance to actual competitive CS. But if you want to practice with competitive rules and setup, give the community servers a try. Search 5v5 and you should find some.
 

Dazza

Member
you have to learn maps, I would always know how long it would take to get to certain conflict points on the map from the start, I could pretty much always get myself setup with an AWP or something similar and pop off a couple of HS kills either through walls or boxes. Play with headphones, sound is very important especially when you're the last man on your team left. There are lots of vantage points where you can get off a shot without being seen, if you're on the receiving end of this, smoke and flash grenades are your friends, as are varying your timing to move out or poking out a barrel. You can learn the recoil pattern in guns so even pulling firing automatic is predictable. Use to have the ak bodyshot -> headshot down pat.


I use to get wallhack and aimbot accusations all the time.
 

Valnen

Member
What exactly do you expect? You play some matches and suddenly you are a pro? Do you like the game? Then it "clicked" if not it probably won't happen.

People have been playing GO (and every other Counter Strike) for years now.

Good multiplayer games are easy to enjoy, but a challenge to master. I find that Counterstrike in all it's forms is not easy to enjoy. So it's kind of alienating for new players.

I'm not a fan of games that are only fun for pro players.
 

Haunted

Member
This is the equivalent of walking onto the football field of a club as someone who's decently in shape and has played the game before and expecting to be able to hang with the people on the field who have been training and playing the game every day for most of their lives.

As soon as people start thinking of esports in terms of actual sports (i.e. "I need to invest a lot of time and consistent training to be able to compete at a decent level") instead of just another game (i.e. "after playing through the tutorial, I'm equipped to handle everything anyone throws at me"), it all clicks into place.
 

Xiraiya

Member
I've been playing this for the last 2 weeks about 2-3 hours a day after work, and I still suck ass. I think I've gone positive about 5 times out of a dozens and dozens of matches. When does this shit start "clicking"?

After about 8 years of being pretty good at Source.
 

Qassim

Member
Good multiplayer games are easy to enjoy, but a challenge to master. I find that Counterstrike in all it's forms is not easy to enjoy. So it's kind of alienating for new players.

I'm not a fan of games that are only fun for pro players

It may be a little daunting, but given CS's explosive growth again I'd say it is hard to argue it is *too* alienating. It's one of the most played games in the industry right now, second most played game on Steam, practically the biggest online FPS on PC outside of Crossfire (Chinese F2P thing), it's far from only fun for pro players.
 

Ac30

Member
It took me 2 years to get from Gold Nova 1 to Eagle, over 800 hours. You just have to put the time in, watch WarOwl's videos on spray control, turn your sens low (I know, flickshots are cool, but accurate aim is even more important), keep your crosshair at head-level and make sure you use your mic. Bad team communication almost always leads to a loss (unless you have god-level aim while playing against silvers)
 

Willectro

Banned
Difficult, occasionally rewarding game. 211 hours in CS:GO, and I still have lots to learn.

CS:GO is an amazing game as the play modes are all unique experiences built on a solid foundation.
 

pants

Member
OP this is a game you kinda have to get good with in a team setting. You could be Jesus but still lose like a clown if you arent playing with your team.
 

Rur0ni

Member
I played since CS 1.3, and played competitively. It takes a long time to get that good. Once you're banned from pretty much any pub you play on for "walling", you know you've arrived. Those 1v5 clutch rounds with just a pistol are to live for.
 

AlexBasch

Member
Good multiplayer games are easy to enjoy, but a challenge to master. I find that Counterstrike in all it's forms is not easy to enjoy. So it's kind of alienating for new players.

I'm not a fan of games that are only fun for pro players.
Then move along and find something more suited to your level then.
 

npa189

Member
Find a gun and stick with it, they become oddly personal. For me its the galil, I can almost always get headshot with it now. Try the saw'd off or the MAG to get your feet wet.
 

Deadbeat

Banned
I prefer 1.6 because I will never give up oilrig. Or militia. Or assault.


edit: I should specify I mean the variants of these maps. They are better in 1.6. Except oilrig cause why have vip mode anymore, right valve?
 
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