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Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim PC |OT| - Re-Release of the Far West Ocean
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Is that item missable by any chance
Hm... it might be. I don't think you *need* it to progress, it just makes things easier.
Thing is, much later in the game that boss gets replaced by an even stronger version, which drops different loot. Or perhaps not until after you beat the first one, in which case it isn't missable. I guess I don't really know the answer, I never tried to finish Limewater Cave without getting the bell.
The Illiterati
Member
Thanks, I'll check that out. Is Nayuta playable on the Vita? And Seven is playable on the Vita right? I get confused about Vita/PSP compatibility.
threelights
Member
I don't know about that actually =P, I'm pretty sure Seven is, but I don't know if Nayuta is (should be though).
Alternatively, I can confirm both of them emulate perfectly on PPSSPP. Nayuta is actually very pretty there.
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
Finished the game, I'm glad I did so as I appreciate it more now that I have played every other game in the series, it's amazing how they pulled Oath and Origin afterwards which are vastly superior games.
Warping makes the game so much better, but I believe the biggest problem this game has is how you have to grind at times, but there are some pretty good grinding spots that makes it nearly effortless to get those levels you need. Game is easy as hell in Normal but in Hard/Nightmare... oh boy.
Overall, the game is great even if it's one of the weakest entries of the series. Thinking back about how this was the first Ys game Falcom had done in 8 years and how it basically saved the series is pretty cool.
Also, Isha is pretty cute.
I'm thinking of replaying Seven now, as I'm in the need of more Ys.
Warping makes the game so much better, but I believe the biggest problem this game has is how you have to grind at times, but there are some pretty good grinding spots that makes it nearly effortless to get those levels you need. Game is easy as hell in Normal but in Hard/Nightmare... oh boy.
Overall, the game is great even if it's one of the weakest entries of the series. Thinking back about how this was the first Ys game Falcom had done in 8 years and how it basically saved the series is pretty cool.
Also, Isha is pretty cute.
I'm thinking of replaying Seven now, as I'm in the need of more Ys.
Tizoc
Member
I...don't have the bell...
Se7enSword
Banned
I'm dying to that giant bee boss, and after this i'll have to resume the limewater cave.
You're not helping. >_>
Tizoc
Member
Se7enSword
Banned
lol, I see. I should be able to do that.
Maybe my brain is playing tricks on me but the melody at 1:08 of The Fleet of Romun sounds really familiar but I just can't place where I've heard it before.
Limewater Cave is nothing compared to going in the endgame underleveled. Don't even know what the point is with those save points. Grinding and being a few hours a way from completion, but not standing a chance in the last battles are probably my least favorite things about this game.
Especially the lockdown is very bad.
Especially the lockdown is very bad.
The Illiterati
Member
Unlike Oath, the last bosses in this are dead easy. I beat it at level 50 and didn't feel like I had to grind. The real grind is that stupid optional boss...but there's almost zero reason to do that.
Ah, yes, Celceta was where I heard it.
Was racking my brain all morning, thanks!
Ernst
"Now, Adol the Red! Prepare to witness a power greater than even the gods themselves!"
Downgrade confirmed.
http://i.imgur.com/19zzvwW.png ;v; ;v;
That boss protecting the thunder weapon is RNG dependant as fuck. In my first try literally all he did was jump around for 3 minutes straight, destroying just about every foothold I had.
In my second try he almost excusively used his spinning attack with the long windup and long cooldown, allowing me to kill him effortlessly. WTF
Sound error also seems to insist on staying, can't play longer than 30min without having to restart the game to fix the sound. This is annoying :/
EDIT: Seems like the sound bug occurs randomly during regular gameplay and always when I die and choose to Retry in the overworld.
In my second try he almost excusively used his spinning attack with the long windup and long cooldown, allowing me to kill him effortlessly. WTF
Sound error also seems to insist on staying, can't play longer than 30min without having to restart the game to fix the sound. This is annoying :/
EDIT: Seems like the sound bug occurs randomly during regular gameplay and always when I die and choose to Retry in the overworld.
BassForever
Member
WHOEVER DESIGNED THIS FUCKING DASH JUMP SECTION IN THE RUINS OF TIME NEEDS TO DIE IN A FIRE THIS MECHANIC IS SO GOD DAMN STUPID AHHHHHHHH
THAT WAS ALL FOR A CAPULA WATER?! AHHHHHH
THAT WAS ALL FOR A CAPULA WATER?! AHHHHHH
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Man, I'm finding the game considerably more difficult than Oath or Origin. I'm playing on hard mode, and I got... well, exactly what I asked for, I guess. It's pretty tough at times.
In any case, though, I'm still loving it.
In any case, though, I'm still loving it.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Worth noting that you can make not one triangle, but two from Ys VIII (three if you deconstruct the Y).
BassForever
Member
So did the giant plant mini boss thing in the forest north of the beach have any actual value in killing because he was waaaay too annoying to have no reward or purpose.
I didn't think it was that bad. At least it doesn't expect you to do diagonal dash jumps. Right?
I've heard rumors about you, Adol the Triangle
BassForever
Member
I can dash jump on command all the damn time, except on the stupid pillar thing where every god damn time Adol would refuse to dash jump and do the stupid half jump right off the cliff.
Nabs
Member
Don't stop at Capla Water, you can find some other goodies in that area using the dash jump. Also a note about the Capla Water
you can trade it to a guy at the inn, he gives a nice item for it.
Oh god, I used to get stuff like that playing PSO2 on my old laptop occasionally. Not often enough to seriously try and investigate what caused it, but it was...weird to say the least. Restarting the PC usually fixed it though.
Hm, I saw similar things happening when I played Oath in Felghana recently. You can probably fix it by tweaking a graphics setting or two. Try disabling mipmapping or switching to DX8.
Tizoc
Member
That was my first thought. Funnily enough, you only need to get 2 treasure chests close to each other which offer better items
For reals though, how did they come up with the dash jump and why?
BassForever
Member
Yeah I got all the items in the dungeon, I was just frustrated after failing the same jump like 15 times in a row when I would literally dash jump from where you fall to the jump only to not dash jump when it mattered most -.-
And I got the hammer the moment I walked into town, guess you're not supposed to get it that early but thanks to all items being replaced by Capla Water you have plenty when you first get to port.
For people having trouble with the dash jump, a friend of mine came up with a solution. I'll quote him here:
Apparently, it works every time!
...Of course, if you use this, you're losing some "street cred." So it's definitely a tradeoff. But hey... I'll probably use it in my next playthrough! Screw street cred!
-Tom
Apparently, it works every time!
...Of course, if you use this, you're losing some "street cred." So it's definitely a tradeoff. But hey... I'll probably use it in my next playthrough! Screw street cred!
-Tom
Paltheos
Member
Finished the Ruins of Lost Time, and boss. Game is definitely not as well polished as Oath, but it's still a blast and satisfies an itch only Oath (and Origin) can satisfy. Game atmosphere trumps design and balance issues here. I'm definitely glad we have a warp option now but it's also a little sad because I like wandering around the islands too while I'm backtracking - Metroid style (seriously though, I'm glad it's there).
Echoing complaints about some platforming sections in the ruins. The very difficult sections are all optional of course, but those could have been made a little more merciful. The problem's not distance but precision. The ends of the broken bridges have little lips, you need to drop down to to jump from but you have only frames before charging off them to plummet to the floor below you to make the jump. If the whole bridge was flat the time frame to make the jump would be easier. The precision jump is the point, I'm sure. For me it's too tough.
I'm also finding that enemies scale up faster than you do, and that yeah the boss in the ruins is kinda RNG-based. He's not too bad though. I died several times, but allot of it was at least partly my fault for not dodging and jumping at the right times. Things do look they can go bad for you if you get a bad draw though. I don't think those platforms regenerate.
... I just realized a big reason I like the atmosphere of this game while I was writing this. The world design is identical to a Metroid game (with some FFXII in there haha). A big world to traverse that generally lets you go anywhere where you please except some areas that need key items to open, or a bridge to fix to open a shortcut, or a boss to get to the next area beyond. Oath kinda does it but really it just has a single hub area that connects to everything else. Napishtim lets you go wherever, regardless of whether you're ready or not (FFXII). Quatera's such a great intro level too since it drops you in there, to go right or left, while this exciting adventure track plays in the background.
Echoing complaints about some platforming sections in the ruins. The very difficult sections are all optional of course, but those could have been made a little more merciful. The problem's not distance but precision. The ends of the broken bridges have little lips, you need to drop down to to jump from but you have only frames before charging off them to plummet to the floor below you to make the jump. If the whole bridge was flat the time frame to make the jump would be easier. The precision jump is the point, I'm sure. For me it's too tough.
I'm also finding that enemies scale up faster than you do, and that yeah the boss in the ruins is kinda RNG-based. He's not too bad though. I died several times, but allot of it was at least partly my fault for not dodging and jumping at the right times. Things do look they can go bad for you if you get a bad draw though. I don't think those platforms regenerate.
... I just realized a big reason I like the atmosphere of this game while I was writing this. The world design is identical to a Metroid game (with some FFXII in there haha). A big world to traverse that generally lets you go anywhere where you please except some areas that need key items to open, or a bridge to fix to open a shortcut, or a boss to get to the next area beyond. Oath kinda does it but really it just has a single hub area that connects to everything else. Napishtim lets you go wherever, regardless of whether you're ready or not (FFXII). Quatera's such a great intro level too since it drops you in there, to go right or left, while this exciting adventure track plays in the background.
You get lots of Exp for it. I was Lv. 26 and instantly got 2 Lv. Up when I beat it.
It's also really easy if you found the Bloody Nail in the Ruins of Time earlier, using Livart's Magic Lv. 2 will kill enough trashmobs to get you back to full health. Also recommend the rune earrings you get just a few screens next to the boss, not being able to be confused is very valuable in this fight.
BassForever
Member
What difficulty were you on that you beat it at 26? Oh hard catastophe I couldn't kill it till level 29
Normal catastrophe. Livart also was the only weapon that did any damage at all. Around ~16 damage per hit. Getting hit by the boss was 52 damage or so. Basically I was dead in 4 hits from the boss. Jumped around like a madman and spammed the Down Jumping attack. Whenever I got to 100 health or so I let him spawn the trashmobs and used them to heal myself via Bloody Nail with Livart's magic. Took a while but it wasn't really difficult. Healing OP.
BassForever
Member
Yeah on Hard he has 3000+ hp and did like ~70 making it a 3HKO, plus he could shoot out so many mobs that I literally couldn't move sometimes -.-
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Finished the game at like 2am this morning. Loved it.
I don't think Napishtim was as polished as Felghana or Origin, which I suppose isn't surprising given that it came out first. This is most evident in the boss fights, which (at least on hard) can be on the cheesy side and just aren't quite as thrilling as the duels in something like Felghana.
Where I do think the game has the advantage, though, is in it's scope. It feels like you're on a grand adventure in this game, far more than in the other two. There's more open space to traverse, more characters, more dialogue -- Ys VI feels much more like a traditional RPG. And I kinda dig that. I also think Ys VI might have the best soundtrack of the three. It's more electronic than butt-rock, which really kinda works for the game.
The game took me about 12 hours on hard, and I was pretty thorough. I enjoyed every moment of it. I'm completely satisfied.
I don't think Napishtim was as polished as Felghana or Origin, which I suppose isn't surprising given that it came out first. This is most evident in the boss fights, which (at least on hard) can be on the cheesy side and just aren't quite as thrilling as the duels in something like Felghana.
Where I do think the game has the advantage, though, is in it's scope. It feels like you're on a grand adventure in this game, far more than in the other two. There's more open space to traverse, more characters, more dialogue -- Ys VI feels much more like a traditional RPG. And I kinda dig that. I also think Ys VI might have the best soundtrack of the three. It's more electronic than butt-rock, which really kinda works for the game.
The game took me about 12 hours on hard, and I was pretty thorough. I enjoyed every moment of it. I'm completely satisfied.
Barrylocke
Member
For people having trouble with the dash jump, a friend of mine came up with a solution. I'll quote him here:
Apparently, it works every time!
...Of course, if you use this, you're losing some "street cred." So it's definitely a tradeoff. But hey... I'll probably use it in my next playthrough! Screw street cred!
-Tom
I need to remember to use AHK more often.
I had this glitch before, alt-tabbing fixed it for me.
Pretty damn screwed, I must say. Did you save at a separate slot before reaching the point of no return?
Cue glorious Ys battle music.
It may be sacrilege, but I replaced boss music with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIL9dXjd_XA
Much much better. Totally hated the egipcian sound of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIL9dXjd_XA
Much much better. Totally hated the egipcian sound of it.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
This is honestly maybe the coolest idea for boss music I've ever heard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIdsFU71ZbY&list=PLzFTGYa_evXgZhRplHCWfaxGp3X2C-3Pp&index=25
It's sooooooo good. Falcom never fails.
It's sooooooo good. Falcom never fails.
I don't have Ys VI yet, but I can safely say that replacing Falcom music is considered sacrilege of the highest order.
The music for the boss after that is one of my favorite Falcom boss themes ever.