TheLostBigBoss
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Also, was anyone kinda disappointed we didn't get to do some fighting at Mother Base in GZ? That final fight would have been so dope to watch people die and everything you built in PW get rekt.
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[IGN] 40 minute Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain demo 1080p60 - 6/18 at 5 AM PST
- Thread starter Love Deterrence
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Well we've already had one, Portable Ops.
Platinum somehow managed a desirable game with RISING but even that was a huge surprise.
It would have been cool, but the cutscene was pretty awesome.
SargerusBR
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I need to play Portable Ops one of these days.
Rising was pure adrenaline.
OH PLEASE GOD YES. That would be amazing.
Love Deterrence
Member
Only the gameplay systems, the story location and also the point in time seem to matter to the rest of the series overall.
Pretty much nothing else from that game counts as no characters or story or anything have ever been referred to or mentioned ever again.
Right?!
And see, this is why I've never felt the need to play it either. =\
The soundtrack is cool, but if you were to ask me about Big Boss' story I would tell you MGS3->Peace Walker->GZ/TPP
Kojima has more or less said only some parts of PO are canon, but since he didn't do the story, it's safe to assume that the story it's self has no bearing on the series.
Miller mentions San Hieronymo in PW and Eva in MGS4 mentions something about it but it seems like that while something happened there at that point in time, MGPO's story isn't what happened. (They ruined Gray Fox anyway)
But yeah, MGS3 > PW > GZ/TPP is definitely the timeline it seems.
Calling to the night was amazing though, yes.
I guess I'm better off watching all the cutscenes on YouTube then, huh?
Most likely.
LiquidSolid
Member
I can't see them dropping it because once they get it out there, it should be relatively easy to make money off of it. They can release a shitload of DLC for it, release it separately as F2P and so on.
I'll happily play MGO forever as long as I can keep customizing and building up my character with new stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIKfniB6MFo
YongYea played the press only E3 demo. His description of the Skull unit makes it sound like it'll be a glorious and terrifying encounter.
YongYea played the press only E3 demo. His description of the Skull unit makes it sound like it'll be a glorious and terrifying encounter.
matrix-cat
Member
Wait, 'Benedict "Kazuhira" Miller'? When did that happen? Back in my day he was McDonnell Miller. Or is he Benedict McDonnell Miller?
Interesting to hear YongYea's thoughts on the cover system. My biggest problem with Ground Zeroes' cover system was that I couldn't slide along walls (if I moved while stuck to a wall I'd pop out of cover), whereas he talks about the cover system being too sticky, and in MGSV they've made it less sticky. I don't know if that really fixes my problem.
Interesting to hear YongYea's thoughts on the cover system. My biggest problem with Ground Zeroes' cover system was that I couldn't slide along walls (if I moved while stuck to a wall I'd pop out of cover), whereas he talks about the cover system being too sticky, and in MGSV they've made it less sticky. I don't know if that really fixes my problem.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
It's Master Benedict McDonnell "Kazuhira" Fostington Smythe Redgrave Miller esq. now.
Caved in and watched the demo last night.
Wow Kojima has given us the ultimate action stealth sandbox.
The variety of gameplay options is truly staggering, my mind is reeling.
The only concern I have is how by-the-books the side ops missions could be
but otherwise I can't wait for September.
Wow Kojima has given us the ultimate action stealth sandbox.
The variety of gameplay options is truly staggering, my mind is reeling.
The only concern I have is how by-the-books the side ops missions could be
but otherwise I can't wait for September.
Dynasty8
Member
Yeah, I missed out on the PSP games too. Saw some YouTube clips yesterday and it kinda explained it...the only problem is that the whole MGS storyline can sometimes be insanely confusing.
SJRB
Gold Member
Greg Miller talked about this a few days ago during KindaFunny. He was at the MGSV preview event and they didn't show shit about MGO. Promised more info during E3 which, as we know, is bullshit since there has been zero info on MGO during E3. Not a single mention.
It's kind of weird.
It was totally disappointing. The "embargo" made it seem like they showed gameplay to the press and we would get previews when it lifted. Instead, it was actually a date for when they would release "new" info, which was actually stuff we already knew.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I'm not worried about the variety of the Side Ops for two reasons:
1) Special Missions Disc, Substance and Peace Walker Side-Ops show that Kojima can do variety.
2) I've spent probably 30 hours on the same missions on Ground Zeroes since release and I'm still not bored of playing them. So if the variety doesn't come from the missions, it'll certainly come from how the player approaches them.
1) Special Missions Disc, Substance and Peace Walker Side-Ops show that Kojima can do variety.
2) I've spent probably 30 hours on the same missions on Ground Zeroes since release and I'm still not bored of playing them. So if the variety doesn't come from the missions, it'll certainly come from how the player approaches them.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Oooo. Sounds amazing.
Just two more months. That's I all I have to keep telling myself.
Muffdraul
Member
When MGS GZ and TPP were announced, I didn't give the slightest shit. MGS4 had felt to me like the definitive ending to the franchise, and I honestly didn't want more MGS after that. Anything post-MGS4 seemed like blatant milking. It was easy for me to skip PW because I'm not real big on handheld games in general and I assumed it was going to be about as vital as PO, which is to say not very vital at all. So when MGS GZ and TPP were unveiled, I barely paid any attention. I have this co-worker/friend who is a rabid MGS freak and every time a new trailer would release he'd come bursting into my office and make me watch it and I'd go "meh" just to be amused by his salty butthurt. But when GZ came out there was no resisting, and the game play blew me away, I thought it was the best yet. I realized there was no way I was going to truly be able to appreciate TPP unless I played PW, so I bit the bullet and played it via the HD collection. It was exactly the compromised and gimped little MGS game that I expected it to be, but it did set the stage and I've been super duper hyped ever since.
Rogue Agent
Banned
It's going to take a while before it's released. Kojima didn't specify how long, though.
I guess I'll try to 100% GZ in the meantime...
I hope everyone is collecting their soldiers.
I grabbed all 40 from GZ Mission, plus the POWs and all extra shift change guards, then when I had 1 guard left I tried to trigger alerts and reinforcements and grabbed 5 extra "tougher" guys from that (Typically "reinforcement" guards are more dangerous and they had better stats than regular guards in Peace Walker)
But I also went into it knowing about the fact it had cross promotion with Monster Hunter and certain traits from that series adapted to MGS, so I knew that gameplay wise it was probably going to be way longer than any console Metal Gear game.
I grabbed all 40 from GZ Mission, plus the POWs and all extra shift change guards, then when I had 1 guard left I tried to trigger alerts and reinforcements and grabbed 5 extra "tougher" guys from that (Typically "reinforcement" guards are more dangerous and they had better stats than regular guards in Peace Walker)
Really? I mean obviously it didn't look as good as console MGS games, but I thought that game played better than pretty much most MGS games up to that point. The mission style was different but also not something I felt was "Lesser" than MGS3 or 4.
But I also went into it knowing about the fact it had cross promotion with Monster Hunter and certain traits from that series adapted to MGS, so I knew that gameplay wise it was probably going to be way longer than any console Metal Gear game.
Muffdraul
Member
Yes, really. Very very really. I found the tiny environments and short missions to be extremely unsatisfying.
I felt the same way unfortunately, but the game is great for what the HW limitations were. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the story and the experience but some of mission environments were way too tiny to always satisfy my mgs gameplay cravings, they left a little to be desired...
Still a great game though and I recommend it to any MGS fan.
Muffdraul
Member
I felt the same way unfortunately, but the game is great for what the HW limitations were. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the story and the experience but some of mission environments were way too tiny to always satisfy my mgs gameplay cravings, they left a little to be desired...
Still a great game though and I recommend it to any MGS fan.
That's pretty much the issue for me. I'm simply not in favor of "Let's take this franchise known for large scale epic missions and chop it up into little pieces and throw them in a blender so we can squeeze it onto a handheld." I don't mind so much when they do it like Metal Gear Ac!d and PO, i.e. games that have little to no impact on the canon so people like me with an aversion to handhelds can safely ignore them without missing much. It was a cynical move to cater to the Japanese market and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I agree the story was a bit more interesting than I expected, but in some ways it was far sillier than anything I imagined. If not for TPP I never would have played it, not in a million years. When people claim it's the best MGS or whatever, I fall over dead.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I've always seen it as somewhat of a proof-of-concept. I honestly don't think we'd have TPP without it. I mean, I'm obviously hazarding a guess but I always thought it was a prototype for the next big Metal Gear, even before TPP was even announced. Kojima's been looking to do something different for a longtime and I think the basic concept of PW/TPP was his way of killing two birds with one stone and reinvigorating his interest in the series.
You could look at PW as a cycnical cash in, sure, but you could also look at it as servicing Kojima's core, home audience. I dunno. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle of that.
Muffdraul
Member
I do get that PW was the catalyst for MGSV and for that I say to PW:
But then I give it a dishonorable discharge. =P
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
I do get that PW was the catalyst for MGSV and for that I say to PW:
But then I give it a dishonorable discharge. =P
Would you say kinda like:
Marty-esque
Member
I brought up the guards a few days ago. Wondering if anyone thinks normal enemy soldiers that are extracted will transfer over to TPP. We know the special guards in some of the side ops and the pows will.
I'm going to assume yes, otherwise it would be kind of weird to let us extract so many soldiers and then absolutely nothing happens with them.
Some reports say only POWs matter and other reports just say anyone you extract, so I rather be safe than sorry.
At worst, you'll only get a bunch of POWs at the start of TPP, at best your Motherbase will already be crammed full of decent soldiers ready to go right off the bat.
Marty-esque
Member
I did the same as you. Extracted a ton of soldiers and the guys with vests and earphones. Still the combat stat probably isn't as important early in TPP as others.
Love Deterrence
Member
Meant to post this.
Was there a stat for extracted guards? I think it was only certain side-op guards and POWs. I doubt those extra guards will be apart of your MB when TPP drops.
TheBoss1
Member
Marty-esque
Member
Yeah I don't think I've come across anything that mentions your standard guard. We were just discussing the possibility.