Eh the GZ differences were pretty good(I'm well aware they had time to optimise the game on consoles since GZ came out), in fact enough to cause meltdowns, was a really great thread. Depends on what if any nvidia enhancements the game has if you ask me. If none then I'd say higher draw distances like you said and better geometry for sure.
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[IGN] 40 minute Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain demo 1080p60 - 6/18 at 5 AM PST
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Eh the GZ differences were pretty good(I'm well aware they had time to optimise the game on consoles since GZ came out), in fact enough to cause meltdowns, was a really great thread. Depends on what if any nvidia enhancements the game has if you ask me. If none then I'd say higher draw distances like you said and better geometry for sure.
Graphics Horse
Member
The mask was there in 2013 trailer too, it's the only look we've seen for him in 1984.
Ground Zeroes had a higher level of detail, better lighting effects, better DoF effects, and some reflection effects that weren't in the console versions.
It wasn't a drastic upgrade, but it was clearly a better looking game. With the larger worlds in TPP, I expect the PC improvement to be a little bigger.
GeNoMe
Member
Maybe we will, The Russians are not in Afghanistan for Snake I reckon.
YUP
100%
thank god
although, the reflex slowdown thing seemed a bit like a bandaid that was necessary because of the instant alert. maybe now they should tweak it to be a little shorter?
Yep except it's in a different area of Afghanistan all together.
Love Deterrence
Member
Meant to thank you for posting this earlier. Also, per JunkerHQ:
The narration for the Japanese version of the MGSV E3 gameplay demo has been recorded but its release will be "a little while longer" yet.
Love Deterrence
Member
Thanks to Vally!
Marty-esque
Member
Yeah. Same here. I cant get into much else because of the hype so I just keep playing GZ.
Love Deterrence
Member
So, the video releasing today is last week's demo but with Japanese narration. New demo should be out within the next week or so given "after E3." PLS
Love Deterrence
Member
Sugita-san narration is live!
For whatever reason, they segmented the video. RIP.
D-Walker bit
[prays for tweets about new demo]
For whatever reason, they segmented the video. RIP.
D-Walker bit
[prays for tweets about new demo]
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
So this is the same video but narrated in Japanese? I didn't see any difference in gameplay approach compared tot he other English version like promised. Or the enw approach will be in the next week video?
I believe the new approach will be the new video.
I think we've seen some of it leaked from E3, with things like D Dog in his sneaking suit.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Oh really? Where? I didn't see him in sneaking suit. Was this in the trailer? Because I didn't see it. Where was it leaked please?
Really hyped for this now. Though still skeptical on the silly angle on some stuff. Anyways finally played GZ. I have some questions.
I enjoy playing the game much more with "markers" turned off. Seeing all the enemies through walls, and all over the map really take me out of the game, kills the immersion for me, and also feels a bit cheap. Anyways. I see there is bonus stuff now in TPP. Is there any bonus for playing with markers off?
Also, I found all the dithering in GZ to be pretty off-putting. Actually think the whole interaction with bushes was done pretty poor. They wiggle oddly when you are completely still in them, and when there is no wind. They animate very rigidly. Odd defocus/blur and dithering all over the place when you are really close to them, etc. Also there was a bit of noticeable pop in dithering of objects in the environment. Do we know if any of this has been alleviated or changed in TPP? Hard to tell in this demo, since its a different location and he doesn't hide much in the bushes. But things do seem to be a bit better, and cleaner. But even watching GZ videos on the computer its really hard to see any dithering, but its super noticeable when actually playing it.
Also GZ, seems a little too sterile and clear with its graphics, also with noticeable repeating textures. World doesn't feel alive or lived in, compared to something like Bloodborne, where the world and presentation feels more organic In GZ the ground is super pristine, with no dirt build up, garbage or variations, most assets just kinda clean and perfect. And not much in terms of smoke/dust/ environmental fx(outside the rain in the first mission). GZ still looks pretty amazing though, especially the intro.
Anyways with these issues I am almost wondering if they should have maybe gone for 30fps to give more life and detail to the large scale open world, or at least better IQ(no dithering) and draw distance of objects. 60fps is great but I don't think its totally necessary for MGS. Don't recall any of the previous games being 60? But its been awhile.
On that note, with my limited viewing experience of TPP, things do look better, but kinda hard to really tell off videos.
I enjoy playing the game much more with "markers" turned off. Seeing all the enemies through walls, and all over the map really take me out of the game, kills the immersion for me, and also feels a bit cheap. Anyways. I see there is bonus stuff now in TPP. Is there any bonus for playing with markers off?
Also, I found all the dithering in GZ to be pretty off-putting. Actually think the whole interaction with bushes was done pretty poor. They wiggle oddly when you are completely still in them, and when there is no wind. They animate very rigidly. Odd defocus/blur and dithering all over the place when you are really close to them, etc. Also there was a bit of noticeable pop in dithering of objects in the environment. Do we know if any of this has been alleviated or changed in TPP? Hard to tell in this demo, since its a different location and he doesn't hide much in the bushes. But things do seem to be a bit better, and cleaner. But even watching GZ videos on the computer its really hard to see any dithering, but its super noticeable when actually playing it.
Also GZ, seems a little too sterile and clear with its graphics, also with noticeable repeating textures. World doesn't feel alive or lived in, compared to something like Bloodborne, where the world and presentation feels more organic In GZ the ground is super pristine, with no dirt build up, garbage or variations, most assets just kinda clean and perfect. And not much in terms of smoke/dust/ environmental fx(outside the rain in the first mission). GZ still looks pretty amazing though, especially the intro.
Anyways with these issues I am almost wondering if they should have maybe gone for 30fps to give more life and detail to the large scale open world, or at least better IQ(no dithering) and draw distance of objects. 60fps is great but I don't think its totally necessary for MGS. Don't recall any of the previous games being 60? But its been awhile.
On that note, with my limited viewing experience of TPP, things do look better, but kinda hard to really tell off videos.
Love Deterrence
Member
The bonus for No Reflex is still in. Not sure about removing the markers (you can turn them all off, though).
Don't know what "No Traces" is, but hopefully we will find out more soon!
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
The bonus for No Reflex is still in. Not sure about removing the markers (you can turn them all off, though).
Don't know what "No Traces" is, but hopefully we will find out more soon!
No traces means you didn't leave behind evidence.
As in, no bodies left in the open that are found later after the mission.
I thought it was more along the lines of "no weapons used"
Marty-esque
Member
It might be not getting any sound cues or white markers when an enemy hears or sees something.
Reckless Onion
Member
Only 2 months away and we've only got 1 trailer for MGO, i'm getting worried
And somehow we did not get any new info when that embargo ended last week? something is going on, i can feel it
And somehow we did not get any new info when that embargo ended last week? something is going on, i can feel it
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
So I'm doing Ground Zeros again on Hard.
I completely forgot how realistic the alert distance is on Hard, I fucking love it.
I really, really hope I can choose the difficulty from the start.
I completely forgot how realistic the alert distance is on Hard, I fucking love it.
I really, really hope I can choose the difficulty from the start.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
That's because the LA team is about to get shit canned in two and a half months.
Konami cleaning out the closet and their fanbase.
Love Deterrence
Member
she shurfife
Hasn't that always been the aesthetic though? GZ really looks like MGS2-HD to my eyes, which is awesome. I really admire the 'gamey' feel of that TPP demo in OP. The fultoning and everything. It's like a perfect mix of B movie storytelling, NES game design sensibilities with modern advancements - all wrapped in that lush, polished Kojima flair
Gouda Jouji
Member
The red MGSV PS4 is up for pre-order at a few retailers here... very tempting!
My 100% GZ save is on PS3 though, i'm doubtful that there'll be a way for the PS4 version of TPP to read it.
I'll probably get it
My 100% GZ save is on PS3 though, i'm doubtful that there'll be a way for the PS4 version of TPP to read it.
Marty-esque
Member
If it's the same ID than you can.
Hey guys, there's a Feature/Option Feedback thread for the PC version of Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
http://steamcommunity.com/app/287700/discussions/0/530645446312560975/#p5
So what PC features would you like to see Gaf? There are some good suggestions already on that steam thread. Off the top of my head, I would say better anti-aliasing support/options, Nvidia's HBAO+, in game downsampling like games such as Shadow of Mordor has.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/287700/discussions/0/530645446312560975/#p5
So what PC features would you like to see Gaf? There are some good suggestions already on that steam thread. Off the top of my head, I would say better anti-aliasing support/options, Nvidia's HBAO+, in game downsampling like games such as Shadow of Mordor has.
Gouda Jouji
Member
Oh, that's good to know! For some reason I assumed it would be a difficult thing to do. Seems like announced the transfer details months ago, I must not have been paying attention:
ChasingComets
Member
Kojima's promising the world with this game, and I do think he can deliver it.
The real worry I have atm though is the mission variety, especially for SIDE OPS; Peace Walker didn't exactly break any new grounds there with it's "Kill this guy/tank/mech" or "Retrieve this Intel/Person" mission goals.
Yes, MGSV is different in the amount of legitimate tactical freedom you're given to approach the game; But no matter how much freedom is given, people are definitely gonna get bored after killing a target for XXth amount of times.
Just as a footnote, I've been on a semi-media blackout out of anticipation for the game, so if there are already journalistic feedback addressing this, that'll be great.
The real worry I have atm though is the mission variety, especially for SIDE OPS; Peace Walker didn't exactly break any new grounds there with it's "Kill this guy/tank/mech" or "Retrieve this Intel/Person" mission goals.
Yes, MGSV is different in the amount of legitimate tactical freedom you're given to approach the game; But no matter how much freedom is given, people are definitely gonna get bored after killing a target for XXth amount of times.
Just as a footnote, I've been on a semi-media blackout out of anticipation for the game, so if there are already journalistic feedback addressing this, that'll be great.
Reckless Onion
Member
I'd like to know as well.
Reckless Onion
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TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Kojima Productions as of now is basically gone, everyone is going to be shuffled into other places in the company or put into horrible jobs where they are forced to quit. In fact, I remember reading that a lot of people in KP aren't even full employees of Konami anymore, and are basically contractors.
If they did that to Kojima Productions, what the hell do you think is going to happen to the LA team?
The LA team got renamed to Konami LA or something I believed, so we don't know just yet what they will do with the team.
I feel like it would cause too much mess for Konami to immediately drop it.
Reckless Onion
Member
Dont they care about their most precious IP? Seems unlikely to me that they will drop support but yeah we'll see i guess. I hope they keep supporting it.
Would they still be looking for people if they are going to close in 2 months? http://www.konami-digital-entertainment.com/jobs.php
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Hey, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe KJ is getting wrecked and the next MG(?) is going to be made from the LA team.
Love Deterrence
Member
It lifted. Few articles posted. "Game is 8 v 8 cant say more lel keptyouwaiting huhhhh???"