robertsan21
Member
Yeah about that, a lot of old strikes, Raids are not available if they let us start from 20...dont you guys think they will just boost us to 34?
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Destiny receives a new Leveling System with The Taken King release. Step aside RNG.
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Yeah about that, a lot of old strikes, Raids are not available if they let us start from 20...dont you guys think they will just boost us to 34?
Yeah but they are already redoing a lot of the strikes and such so I don't see why they wouldn't be able to just downgrade them
mhayze
Member
There's a little give and take there. It used to be that all but the very last level was unlocked by participating in end game activity a few times. I would look at people at the level cap as a sign that they were at least decent players and community engaged. Now there's no real meaning to it, but it is a hell of a lot more friendly to the masses.
Now what I wonder is if the same can be said about unlocking top level gear - just because you can hit the level cap easily, does that mean that you can get the top level of gear without
paying your repeated penances to the RNGeeeeee?
Now what I wonder is if the same can be said about unlocking top level gear - just because you can hit the level cap easily, does that mean that you can get the top level of gear without
sacrificing a goat
Impulsor
Member
What?
Wind's Howling
Member
Some of the old strikes are being revised so that they feel refreshing. I am guessing they are going to start from there and let people level up from 20.
robertsan21
Member
I do wonder what a remixed strike would be like, will it be different every time you play it or?
Impulsor
Member
Anyone seen this?:
https://blog.activision.com/communi...-taken-king-we-are-guardians-trailer-released
Looks like TTK will include a voucher to boost one character up to the minimum level required, which I assume will be 20.
https://blog.activision.com/communi...-taken-king-we-are-guardians-trailer-released
Looks like TTK will include a voucher to boost one character up to the minimum level required, which I assume will be 20.
Wind's Howling
Member
Probably a different enemy type on each new playthrough of the strike.
That's because you were probably shooting at a loot cave. It takes a week to get to max level at most currently. For alts it takes about 8 hours.
Game has a tidal wave of content now with TTK. I can't imagine a better time to jump in.
Diablohead
Member
Before destiny was in my hands I was hoping that strikes would be randomized in some way like using a different start point, enemy layout changes, never happened though :/
Noisepurge
Member
"Fallen Saber (on Earth; youll fight against a super-powered Shank); Shield Brothers (on the Dreadnaught; youll take out two Cabal leaders);"
Haha, atleast Bungie continues the trend of just scaling up a normal enemy as a boss
we get a supersized Shank! And apparently supersized Phalanx as well.
Haha, atleast Bungie continues the trend of just scaling up a normal enemy as a boss
we get a supersized Shank! And apparently supersized Phalanx as well.
ToyMachine228
Member
For anyone thinking of hopping back into Destiny on Xbox One...Shoot me a message or request permission to join on bungie.net. Looking to get the band back together.
https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/174077
Progenitor is a Destiny clan that formed before the game's release. We raided the Vault of Glass heavily as a group and some of us have continued on to run Crota's End, Prison of Elders and Trials of Osirus together. Many of our members consider each other friends whether in real-life, or through the game.
As The Taken King approaches, we are looking to bolster our numbers once more so we regularly have a good sized player pool. As with any game that maintains a player base, sometimes people come and go, but we want Progenitor to remain and continue on, especially with exciting new content on the way. All we ask is that you be competent at the game and have a desire to get things done. Members are encouraged to use the Destiny app to communicate with fellow clan members to coordinate runs.
In the weeks leading up to The Taken King, many of us will be doing Nightfall, raids, Trials, Prison, etc. But what we're really looking for are members who are going to dedicate themselves to running new content in The Taken King when it hits in September. If you're looking for an Xbox One clan to play with once The Taken King hits, look no further. Request permission to join Progenitor and you're in. We look forward to exploring the Dreadnaught with you.
https://www.bungie.net/en/Clan/Detail/174077
Progenitor is a Destiny clan that formed before the game's release. We raided the Vault of Glass heavily as a group and some of us have continued on to run Crota's End, Prison of Elders and Trials of Osirus together. Many of our members consider each other friends whether in real-life, or through the game.
As The Taken King approaches, we are looking to bolster our numbers once more so we regularly have a good sized player pool. As with any game that maintains a player base, sometimes people come and go, but we want Progenitor to remain and continue on, especially with exciting new content on the way. All we ask is that you be competent at the game and have a desire to get things done. Members are encouraged to use the Destiny app to communicate with fellow clan members to coordinate runs.
In the weeks leading up to The Taken King, many of us will be doing Nightfall, raids, Trials, Prison, etc. But what we're really looking for are members who are going to dedicate themselves to running new content in The Taken King when it hits in September. If you're looking for an Xbox One clan to play with once The Taken King hits, look no further. Request permission to join Progenitor and you're in. We look forward to exploring the Dreadnaught with you.
TetraGenesis
Member
...I might play Destiny again.
Memorabilia
Member
As someone who typically prefers soloing most games due to the vast quantity of randoms who just aren't fun to play with, joining a clan sounds like a great idea. I'll be jumping back in to Destiny when the Legendary Edition TTK drops. I didn't like the original release after hitting lvl 20 bc it turned into such a ridiculous, random grind & the content was so thin (its actually one of the few games I've ever asked for a refund on). But it sounds like patch 2.0 + all the DLC might actually fix those problems. If so I'll be into Destiny in a big way bc the core gunplay is sublime. Soooo...in the meantime, should I PM you to add each other on XBL?
Memorabilia
Member
Does anyone know if the exclusive PS4 content in TTK is timed? I'd much rather pick up the Legendary Edition for Xbone. If it takes a few months to show up on Xbone I'm cool with that. I don't mind waiting. But I'm not a fan of permanently missing content (I hate all these exclusivity deals. Ugh) So I might consider picking it up on PS4 instead.
blue_phazon
Member
I believe it's exclusive for a year. That's the same deal as the current exclusive stuff (so the current exclusive content will be available to xboners when TTK launches
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Yeah it's only a year.
Join us at Team Bone Zone. We've got me, and anyone who's played with me can tell you, my unbridled enthusiasm and world-class sense of humor is the Xbox One's real killer app.
I think that estimation is a bit liberal. My first character took about 2 weeks of daily grinding to get to max level, much more than it should have. I got burned out and it took me about a month of a break to renew my interest enough to try the raids.
tearsintherain
Member
If you have both I'd recommend playing on whichever system most of your friends play on. If you don't really have many friends playing Destiny I'd recommend the PS4 version, there are way more players on PS4 than xbox one on GAF and reddit and its far faster to join a quick pickup group for a raid or strike. The xbone (or ps3/360) versions aren't ghost towns by any means and you can still find people on sites like destinyLFG but there are just way more people on the PS4 than the other 3 platforms, combined.
You still need PS+ (or xbox gold) for multiplayer so something else to consider.
KZObsessed
Member
I want to play this again, but £40 for an expansion. Can't do it.
Wind's Howling
Member
Exactly my reason to wait. I need to buy the Legendary Edition because I have not even purchased the previous DLC's.
Kor of Memory
Member
A person playing through the game for the very first time (right now) will take about 10-12 hours to reach level 20 at which point you no longer gain XP and have to rely on gear for additional levels.
A person playing through the game for a second time with a bit of guidance and an optimized plan can hit level 20 in 6-8 hours depending on the types of bounties offered.
XP numbers here:
- 1 (0xp)
- 2 (900xp)
- 3 (5,000xp)
- 4 (10,000xp)
- 5 (16,000xp)
- 6 (23,000xp)
- 7 (31,000xp)
- 8 (40,000xp)
- 9 (50,000xp)
- 10 (62,500xp)
- 11 (75,500 xp)
- 12 (89,500xp)
- 13 (104,500xp)
- 14 (119,500xp)
- 15 (134,500xp)
- 16 (149,500xp)
- 17 (164,500xp)
- 18 (182,500xp)
- 19 (203,500xp)
- 20 (227,500xp)
Not that is cumulative. So to get from 19 to 20 you need 24,000XP.
Edit: the difference between XP needed for level 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 are all the same at 15K for some reason. Several bounties in the game offer 5K xp for completion. Since you can hold 10 bounties, you could technically go from level 12 to 15 with one round of completed bounties.
Eppy Thatcher
God's had his chance.
Would have loved to play Destiny with these changes. Too bad I'm completely burnt out on the old tired ass version. Will really enjoy hopping in with my lifer friends and checking out the new gear every coupl of months though. Everyone from my raid group is pumped af for TTK.
If they had this system at launch, me and my friends may have actually gotten to try the raid out rather than get burned out trying to get to level 28. I got to 26. The next time I play anything Destiny will probably be when the 2nd expansion for Destiny 2 comes out that includes everything for $60, unless they launch with proper compelling content and systems and the reviews/impressions indicate that. I loved the gunplay and abilities.
Kor of Memory
Member
Nope.
Your progess is just fine. Nothing is happening to your existing characters XP and/or sublcasses.
Your current legendary weapons are still useful in PvP where damage is noramlized (except in Iron Banner and Trials).
SirNinja
Member
20 to 40.
If you're level 21-34 in Destiny right now, go take a look at your character's gear screen, either in game or through bungie.net.
See that huge number at the top left next to your subclass? Yeah. You're actually just level 20; it's your gear that's making you stronger beyond that. TTK is doing away with the Light system, so everyone's going to go "back" to 20 when it launches. At least that's my understanding of it.
I'm guessing the XP curve to go to 40 is going to be a lot steeper, now that leveling up is just a matter of raw experience and not gated behind your capacity to find and upgrade max-light gear.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
that is so scary and exciting but I think you're right.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Cømet;174286509 said:
"Expansion" seems like a gross misnomer after the Game Informer data drop.
Kor of Memory
Member
It's more like a Sequel-lite or something.
Sequel doesn't seem quite right but neither does expansion, but it's definitely closer to the former than the latter.
Expansion seems perfect. Definitely doesn't look like Destiny 2, but much better than TDB or HoW.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
But the literal definition of an expansion. The previous DLCs should be "Add Ons"
D
Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Same. I like the core gameplay, but I just don't have time/interest for long, grindy games anymore.
How so? It sounds a reasonable amount of content on paper, at least. Far more than the two pitiful DLCs.
Or do you mean the (essentially) rewrite of the basic game? That's for everyone regardless of paying for TTK right?
I'm actually pretty pleased with that and really really hope Bungie get it right this time. If they can fix the base game and make it more like the original dream, I'll be more inclined to get the expansion too.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
but....do they really need to rush?
I think I'm just going to start all over again with all the new systems in place....there will always be time to get shit end game....besides dinklebot being re-voiced makes me curious to start over as well.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Cømet;174288675 said:
Yeah, that second bit. They're really remodeling the entire game.
I still think they should have gone with the early "episode" nomenclature, and expansion for TTK.
It comes across as a reboot, but there's no need to drop £40 on the expansion if you just want the rewrite if that comes free anyway.
As for Anoregon's quote, and why I quoted it--- I really fucking hope so. Dunno what XIV 1.0 was like, wasn't into it at the time, but I love A Realm Reborn and Heavensward. If Destiny makes a turnaround like that I'll be ecstatic.
Relic weapon quests when?
Kor of Memory
Member
No need to rush at all. Was just giving extra info.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Cømet;174289332 said:
I guess. But I don't personally know why someone would only want to play old content that they hated but in a different way without playing the new material designed from the ground up to work with the new game style and approach.
The bad things about the light system was no visual or perk flexibility (always choose armor with the the highest level) and limited avenues for getting the necessary light upgrade items
However, the "good" thing is it did encourage you to play repetitive content. So they basically need to find a better reason for players to do this. Hopefully its due to acquiring more build options for different playstyles needed to beat high level content. Unfortunately, all they really said is that it would have a more straight forward level system. So can't tell whats really good about that in general
However, the "good" thing is it did encourage you to play repetitive content. So they basically need to find a better reason for players to do this. Hopefully its due to acquiring more build options for different playstyles needed to beat high level content. Unfortunately, all they really said is that it would have a more straight forward level system. So can't tell whats really good about that in general
I think so, but on the other hand, It's alot easier to convince someone to spend $20 on an "expansion" than an episode, since that's what people usually expect expansions to be $15-$25 bucks.
RadicalVelocity
Member
It was one of the most asinine decisions involved in the game.
Massive insult to injury with the anemic content of the base game and both DLC, considering they're both more expensive than Shivering Isles was a decade ago.
But the positive is that each release has gotten progressively better, where HoW was almost worth the price of admission, had interesting characters and storyline, good upgrade system, fantastic encounter design (still think of the Ember Caves area in the first mission), and TTK seems like it's going above and beyond the original vision to make up for the missteps leading to here.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
They're doing this, it looks like, by expanding bounties and quests like a million fold. It's all about XP now, so you'll be revisiting old content in different ways to get it through bounties and quests.
sounds good.....almost sounded like they could hurry up now lol, with all the new systems anyone who is under 20 could probably start over and have a nice good experience all the way through with the new ghost and systems.
To see whether the new system meets my standards. No sense dropping cash on new content if I don't find the old content redone good enough.
It's been six months at this point. The base game should be fairly fresh to do again. I'll just undergear my Titan for it.