jmaine_ph
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Yea that always grinds my gears when I'm replaying a game.
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Until Dawn: New Trailer Lets You Take Control
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quickwhips
Member
Are they cut scenes or all in game?
One review already pointed it out as an issue. We'll find out in a couple of hours if other reviewers do as well.
It's not the sort of thing that would affect my purchase in any way though.
Hoho for breakfast
Member
Oh dear god you can't skip cutscenes even on replay? That's extremely annoying. Please fix it. I understand the first time but I'll probably never really replay it if you can't at all.
You should be able to skip cutscenes and also speed things up something like 999 or Life Is Strange. How do they not have that in there? God damn.
You should be able to skip cutscenes and also speed things up something like 999 or Life Is Strange. How do they not have that in there? God damn.
User 479360
Banned
I wouldn't expect skippable cutscenes in a game such as this, so it's not a detriment to the game.
You're not always going to get the same cutscenes, and some have QTEs anyways.
Seem to be all in game.
MMaRsu
Banned
Ok this doesnt sound great. The ending is always the same? Wtf??????????????????????????????????
AmaterasuOni
Banned
I'm fairly sure there are multiple cutscenes for different choices as there are different amount of people in some points of the game. Not sure about this, as I haven't had time to revisit the episodes yet.
IMHO skipping the cutscenes would be like fast-forwarding dialogue in horror movies. I see no point in that.
IMHO skipping the cutscenes would be like fast-forwarding dialogue in horror movies. I see no point in that.
User 479360
Banned
My second playthrough has been faster than my first, but that's a given. I mean, I'm not searching as much as I used to, and I know what to do during most scenes.
I'm half-way after 3-4 hours.
I'm half-way after 3-4 hours.
Reviewer stated that he only did one play through and did not know if the ending was always the same, which is doubtful as entire cast can be killed off.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Incorrect.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
LOL at people complaining about not being able to skip cut-scenes. So you basically want to skip like 80% of the game? In any other game it would be unforgivable, but with this game it makes perfect sense.
Agreed, how can you make an informed decision on the direction you take if you skip the scene before making a choice!!
No, they want to be able (on the 2nd, 3rd playthrough) to skip those you already saw during the first playthrough and/or fast-forward through already-seen dialogue, like you can do in VNs with multiple endings. If you start the game over 5 times, would you have the patience of watching the same cutscenes again and again?
KibblesBits
Member
Watching a stream now. Game is gorgeous.
UberTag
Member
Man, the embargo hasn't even lifted yet and we've already got the "ignore what the reviewer said" crowd out. It's going to be a fun day.
I can pass along the following... spoilers ho for those who haven't played the game yet.
Only Matt and Jessica can be killed before Chapter 8. Matt can't be killed until Chapter 6 - unless the preorder DLC changes that and allows him to be killed off sooner (doubtful).
Emily can be killed before the scene where the Flamethrower Guy arrives to the cabin to drop the wendigo bomb on the others.
Mike, Chris, Ashley and Sam will always be present for this scene and Josh will always get kidnapped.
Chris can get killed when looking for Josh.
Sam and Mike have indestructible plot armor and will always make it to the final confrontation with the wendigo in the cabin. They're the only two that matter.
They can both die in that scene, however and you could wind up with an only Matt/Jessica survive ending as they're thrown into a different escape route.
You can have everyone die - there's a trophy for that - or have everyone except Beth and Flamethrower Guy survive - there's a trophy for that too.
In fact, I imagine there are ending variations for every possible combination of surviving characters you can imagine.
Emily can be killed before the scene where the Flamethrower Guy arrives to the cabin to drop the wendigo bomb on the others.
Mike, Chris, Ashley and Sam will always be present for this scene and Josh will always get kidnapped.
Chris can get killed when looking for Josh.
Sam and Mike have indestructible plot armor and will always make it to the final confrontation with the wendigo in the cabin. They're the only two that matter.
They can both die in that scene, however and you could wind up with an only Matt/Jessica survive ending as they're thrown into a different escape route.
You can have everyone die - there's a trophy for that - or have everyone except Beth and Flamethrower Guy survive - there's a trophy for that too.
In fact, I imagine there are ending variations for every possible combination of surviving characters you can imagine.
User 479360
Banned
You can replay chapters, but you start a new story each time you want to fully replay the game.
Things can change based on your choices, so you're not going to see all of the same cutscenes. Also, not the same outcomes.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
These cutscenes are different, you don't want to skip most of these. There are QTEs and they differ like the ending differs. They are not that linear.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I see people complaining about not being able to skip cut-scenes on repeated play-throughs, which is an odd omission.
Unless dialogue also changes based on your choices? If that's the reason, there's really no reason to complain and the lack of option to skip makes perfect sense.
link please
I mean, instead of making all cutscenes unskippable, why not just have some flags for cutscenes you've already seen in previous playthroughs? Let the player be able to skip crap they have already seen, but force them to watch new stuff.
Obviously, this assumes that there's some kind of clear-ish distinction between pure cutscenes and QTE-heavy cutscenes. Since I haven't really followed the game that much, I have no clue about it.
Obviously, this assumes that there's some kind of clear-ish distinction between pure cutscenes and QTE-heavy cutscenes. Since I haven't really followed the game that much, I have no clue about it.
Hmm the review mentions decisions don't really matter?
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
This post just makes me wonder if people actually know how this game plays, because a few of you seem to be missing the whole point of it....
MMaRsu
Banned
He said he did 2 playthroughs and 2 characters ccannot be killed. Didnt want to spoil anything
KibblesBits
Member
It's not in English.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
No I don't. I did not want to spoil myself with anything. Is there anything wrong with that?
AmaterasuOni
Banned
All characters can be killed. I killed one of these "unkillable" characters on my playthrough.
Why are people speaking these things when they haven't even played the game? (Not pointing you out)
Miles Quaritch
Member
Do you often get your gaming news from the highly reputable Powerpyx?
Don't put too much stock in reviews like that, they are fishing for hits before the real reviews come out.
TheSlySoul
Member
I am optimistic for this game. The trailers look really scary.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Being able to skip cut-scenes wouldn't make much sense. It would defeat the whole purpose of the game. It's a silly complaint. I'll leave it at that.
User 479360
Banned
I lost one character during my second play through because I took the time to look for a collectible. 
Also, reviews go up at 11am EST.
Also, reviews go up at 11am EST.
That's not really what the poster did though.
UberTag
Member
The big reason why I would discourage being able to fast forward through cutscenes is that almost every decision you make in the game and the strength of the character relationships with one another fundamentally alter the dialogue in subtle ways. I've rewatched some scenes a half-dozen times with organically different dialogue each time depending on a decision you made, someone being alive or dead, having spotted a clue or not spotted a clue, whether a character hates another character or loves them - it's all variable. Skipping doesn't make sense at all like it would in some other titles where a key decision just throws you into a different timeline because the layers are much more elaborate here. It's something you really can't appreciate until you've seen dozens of playthroughs, however.
To have skippable cutscenes there have to be cutscenes first. This game doesn't have that. It's not "Choose option A or B" and if you choose A, the movie clip for "Option A" plays and vice versa. Everything is dynamic, you will be asked for input about every few minutes and dialogue changes depending on those decisions.
The last paragraph of his review talks about his second playthrough and how it still hits the same story beats and how there were minor differences in dialogue and such.
Truth be told, i/d put more faith into his reviewer than other outlets just off the strength that this person (assuming it's just one person) is a well known trophy hunter so being thorough with the game kind of comes with the territory whereas other more mainstream outlets will just do a one and done.
Also, if you're willing to look at the trophy guide he has up (naturally there's some spoilers) there's things in it that (assuming they discovered it themselves) they'd have to play through the game multiple times to know or at least revisit various episodes.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
I lost one character during my second play through because I took the time to look for a collectible.
Also, reviews go up at 11am EST.
Hah! I was sure there was a hidden timer on that scene. I was right! I didn't stop looking for collectibles because of that.
Then maybe stop making assumptions like it is a detrimental thing and wait until you play the damn game.
Daffy Duck
Member
Sounds like such a cool game.
MMaRsu
Banned
User 479360
Banned
Haha, yeah. I was pissed at myself.
Haha it's just so strange to see people say things completely opposite to one another.
Persona RS
Member
I think he is talking about the minimum characters alive at the end of the game and not about a specific character. Is it possible to have only one survivor? Or complete the game without survivors?
Anyway, the choices do matter and consequences can be very important.
UberTag
Member
It's possible to have 0 survivors or 8 survivors. The reviewer's contention was that 2 specific characters will always make it to the final scene of the game to drive the conclusion and then possibly live or die based on their decisions there
... and in that respect he's absolutely correct
Well, http://mmgn.com/ps4/until-dawn-review
+ Encourages replayability
+ Player choices actually matter
+ Pretty decent horror story
8/10