Then you should know it's not simply a case of just seeking professional help when you feel depressed, especially when coupled with anxiety. He might not be professionally diagnosed as being depressed, but these tweets certainly are warning bells. Instead of mocking him, we should be trying to help him.
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Do we have to worry about Notch?
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Sympathy isn't a limited commodity. There's plenty to go around.
As someone who's in a similar situation, I'm sorry about your issues and hope for all the best in you getting them sorted.
John Kowalski
Banned
I know how that feels like. Not the money part but the other stuff. Hope he finds the better things in life.
I don't wish sadness or depression on anyone, but I view it as a character flaw that what he decided to do with that amount of money is retreat to beverly hills (or wherever it is) to a giant tacky mansion and hang out with famous people.
If he has no motivation to pursue something creative or important simply because he's rich already, then I can't relate to him. If he has mental illness I hope he gets help.
If he has no motivation to pursue something creative or important simply because he's rich already, then I can't relate to him. If he has mental illness I hope he gets help.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Sure, if that's an option but I'd still rather do it while rich.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Of course not, but seeking professional help definitely helps.
Strange Young Man
Neo Member
Yes, some in this thread have bravely come and admitted they suffer from depression. I don't think your language is helpful to any of those people. The least you could do is name names because your vague comment could be misinterpreted by people it wasn't intended for.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I dont think the money here is the problem, seems he had problems before getting all that and he is just blaming his depression to money and fame, when its probably more deep.
I had a huge depression during a whole year becuase I lost what I thought was my group of best friends, my work and my own creation, all at the same time, and its the most horrible experience ive ever had.
I had a huge depression during a whole year becuase I lost what I thought was my group of best friends, my work and my own creation, all at the same time, and its the most horrible experience ive ever had.
The more money you have the more in control of your emotions and feelings you are.
The outside world can't affect your inner mind palace.
People just need to get past the money part.
If you are depressed, you'll do things that distract from it, even if only for a moment. Eat, drink, drugs, or if you have a lot of money, buy things and do things.
maniac-kun
Member
Maybe Notch could found a new studio for Hideo Kojima and have him working on what he loves.
spindoctor
Member
It's disappointing how many people here are dismissing his problems just because he's rich. Dude is telling us how things are on the other side of a fence we will never cross, and not all of it is "the good life" that we all expect a billion dollars provides.
I hope he can find some friends or family members to support him through this. Maybe start learning a new skill or get involved in another software project to keep him occupied.
I hope he can find some friends or family members to support him through this. Maybe start learning a new skill or get involved in another software project to keep him occupied.
If he wants help, there are people who can help him. Given that he actually gives voice to his feelings, I'm going to say he isn't right there in the deep.
As for we having to worry, he's an adult. And without knowing shit about his personal life, I'm going to assume he has family. If you don't want to talk to a professional, talk to them. But I reckon it's easier with the professional.
Fortunately for him, professionals are within his reach.
As for we having to worry, he's an adult. And without knowing shit about his personal life, I'm going to assume he has family. If you don't want to talk to a professional, talk to them. But I reckon it's easier with the professional.
Fortunately for him, professionals are within his reach.
Thanks. I wish you all the best too. We'll sort it out somehow, I'm sure. ^^
We often hear about it, but I think early retirement sucks simply because all your friends are still working while you're just sitting around waiting for them to get off, and when you have all of that money, it changes your interactions with people. It becomes much more difficult to find people who are genuine and you also have to deal with envy from your friends. The whole rich, party crowd won't alleviate any of that loneliness, because I'm sure he realizes that none of those people have an iota of care about him and as soon as his money is gone, he gets ejected from that crowd.
I'm glad he's being honest about his life. Hopefully he can get it together.
I'm glad he's being honest about his life. Hopefully he can get it together.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
No but it removes pretty much all barriers.
I've suffered with depression all my life and I don't have the money to get myself out of a rut, I have very little sympathy for someone who puts himself into the situations that he is depressed about by choice rather than circumstance.
I'm not saying its a simple fix but he could get help tomorrow if he wanted.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
GAF is populated by psychiatrists and psychologists of course, they're experts.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Hating someone who gave you 100k? How sad
Notch about to hit the studio at this point and start his R&B career after just reading those tweets. Hope he gets Timberland and Timberlake to help him
Notch about to hit the studio at this point and start his R&B career after just reading those tweets. Hope he gets Timberland and Timberlake to help him
That's probably a big reason why a lot of people end up feeling so isolated.
"LOLz get over it loser, you're being a crybaby. So many people have it way worse off than you. You need mental help now."
Money doesn't magically cover up a void in the soul.
John Kowalski
Banned
Seems like sympathy is a commodity not all of us want to spend our money on.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
There was a lot of sarcasm in that post which you may have missed.
Regardless, what I was trying to say in my post, from experience, is that people who are struggling to help themselves shouldn't be your go to address if what your looking for is empathy and support for a stranger. Just like you don't go to a sick person to heal you, but to a healthy one.
I'm just putting too much stock in my writing ability to channel emotion. The thing I imagine is terrifying to me. I suppose it probably doesn't carry through text... probably for the better.
Shadax the wizard
Member
Depression is a condition of the mind, not the wallet.
the_batman
Banned
he should play some Minecraft, i heard the kids love it these days.
He is not sad because he has money. You'd think people would know depression is a serious issues regardless of success or money
If he does have issues, the fact he is vocalizing them, and not keeping everything internal is at least a plus point.though.
Might as well use this graph again...
this is surprisingly accurate.
It's also a sad state of affairs when a bunch of internet experts have somehow diagnosed him with clinical depression based off a few tweets, and from their supposed moral highground, can't decide what intellectual shortcoming to attribute to anyone who doesn't jump to the same conclusion.
Does anyone understand what this even means?
Also, to the people who think we're all monsters:
I'd argue that by venting publicly on twitter about how "hard his life is" he himself is showing a remarkable lack of empathy towards everyone that actually has real problems. If I was in an actual bad place in my life, seeing him acting like his life is absolutely terrible would make me feel like shit.
Also, to the people who think we're all monsters:
I'd argue that by venting publicly on twitter about how "hard his life is" he himself is showing a remarkable lack of empathy towards everyone that actually has real problems. If I was in an actual bad place in my life, seeing him acting like his life is absolutely terrible would make me feel like shit.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Now this is true. My family said when I was super depressed that the best thing to do would be to see a psychologist. But of course we didnt have the money to do that, so even if I tried to go out of it I really didnt now how to do it, or have the bravery to do so (and the family didnt help with, "just get out of it, just get out of it" ad nauseaum, i know htey said that for the best, but it didnt help).
He is now blaming the money and fame, and what he needs to do is use that money to get someone who really can help him, becuase at least he has it easy to do that.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Sorry, I guess I just didn't understand your post.
I don't think we need to "worry" about Notch because he's a smart guy who can probably take care of himself. Sounds like he's getting pretty bored of the lifestyle he has though. Hopefully he can channel his wealth and energy into something more productive and fulfilling in the near future!
Sidewinder
Member
Yeah, think it's the first time I've seen it, that's pretty much my shitty brain in the second graph.
Seems he doesn't really reflect on his own actions or tries to take the perspective of other people. As he's got plenty of time, he could take some psychology and philosophy lectures on happiness - I believe that would really help him.
And then he could try to find new goals for his life. I've talked to a number of business angels (former executives from Microsoft Sweden and other Swedish firms) who are now active in the startup industry. There they help in building something new and seem to enjoy their lives quite well.
And then he could try to find new goals for his life. I've talked to a number of business angels (former executives from Microsoft Sweden and other Swedish firms) who are now active in the startup industry. There they help in building something new and seem to enjoy their lives quite well.
PartTimeWarrior
Banned
Maybe he just needed to vent. But if he needs to seek professional help I hope he does.
Green Yoshi
Member
Machinehead
Member
Using the word "sick" was bad on my part.
My post was directed to those saying that he's being bitchy just because he is rich and rich people can't suffer as much as poor people.
This is important...once you no longer have to struggle life sucks
We crave that struggle and challenge
It's his personal twitter, not a PSA that he bought air time for to run in front of your face. The only lesson here is that gold plated grass is not greener. Money, past a certain point, doesn't buy happiness. And his depression - if he is depressed - is just as real to him as others have felt themselves.