MicroByter
Member
Times like this made me wish I was made of money.
Really phenomenal looking piece of hardware.
Really phenomenal looking piece of hardware.
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Surface Book Is Microsoft's Glorious New Laptop - twice as fast as macbook pro
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Hopefully they don't screw up the UK pricing.
I have used the continuity thing once on my iphone. My itunes library is still managed from my Windows desktop though. I own zero OSX apps.
I have used the continuity thing once on my iphone. My itunes library is still managed from my Windows desktop though. I own zero OSX apps.
Suzushiiro
Banned
Honestly, $2700 is about the price of the top-end Razer Blade, last I checked, which has similar specs (512GB hard drive, 16GB RAM, etc.) but is bulkier and doesn't do the detachable display thing. So that's about the price you should expect for a laptop with those specs and that size.
The minimum dedicated GPU model is $1899.
The minimum dedicated GPU model is $1899.
Well, the last time I tried OSX you couldn't even adjust mouse acceleration without buying a third party tool.
Mihos
Gold Member
Only reason OSX is still installed on my Apple devices is in case I need to change something in rEFInd.
FarEastOfTengai
Member
Nevermind, I assume its the same from this...
Does the Surface Pen that works with Surface Book work with other Surface devices?
A: Yes. With Palm Block technology and 1024 levels of pressure sensitivity, Surface Pen gives you a surprisingly natural way to mark-up documents and take notes in your own handwriting.
Bolivar687
Banned
It looks great but at $1,500, I'd rather get either a full laptop from Asus with more power for 2/3 the price or just a Surface Pro. I like that it's detachable though, as I've been considering getting a Surface for work.
I just think they missed the sweet spot in pricing.
I just think they missed the sweet spot in pricing.
Right, so the control is there, Apple don't lock away the ability to make those sort of alterations to the OS. It's not as if Windows doesn't have lots of third party apps to add what some consider essential configuration/functionality, although I agree that mouse acceleration is a fucking stupid thing to enable by default without a simple way to disable.
Kralamoonard
Member
Holy shit...this looks bloody fantastic. Definitely has piqued my interest as I'm looking to get a new laptop next year. At the 1 minute mark, man that's when my mind was truly blown. Looks like a really neat product.
Maintenance
Member
Can't even find the specs on the site.
SmartWaffles
Member
At $2000 level it has to be something like 960M minimum, if it can run Gear of War Ultimate to a good looking level it shouldn't be shabby.
Bad news: the 1499$ model has no discrete GPU, you'll have to shell out 1899$ for that.
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Decked out model is $2699
Core i7
512 SSD
16GB ram
Discrete gpu
unfortunately they do not divulge the specifics of the i7 or the gpu
CyberPunked
Member
OSX and Macbook touchpads work so much easily together.
Dreamgazer
Member
Need spec, otherwise...I'm not sure what's so amazing about the price.
Some PRICING info
From engadget:
http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/06/microsofts-surface-book-is-its-first-and-ultimate-laptop/
Pre-orders start tomorrow, October 7th and the product will hit stores on October 26th, starting at $1,499 (for the 128GB / 8GB Core i5, Intel HD graphics configuration) to $2,699.00 (512GB / 16GB, NVIDIA GPU).
$1,500 for 128GB Drive, 8GB Core i5, Intel HD graphics GPU
$2,700 for 512GB Drive, 16GB Core i7 Nvidia GPU
USD
Sorry, too rich.
Mihos
Gold Member
I run Linux on my macbooks. With OSX , you have a choice of a handful of devices... with Windows or Linux, you have the choice of everything.
Squall5042
Member
Hope this sells well. As an Apple fanboy, I feel they need a bit more competition to inspire them more.
and?
those barely exist in desktops anymore. You can install Windows and Linux via USB, which is faster and more reliable anyway.
diffusionx
Gold Member
High end MBPs are priced similarly and have a discrete GPU.
I have a feeling that "twice as fast as MBP" is a bit of an exaggeration at the price bands, considering Apple's stuff uses the same chips. For $1500, you get a 13" MBP with a i5, 8GB of RAM, Intel graphics, and 256GB of storage.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
What do you need an optical drive for in 2015? Just get an external if you absolutely must require one.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Six million pixels... what does the actual resolution come out to.
Dreamgazer
Member
You're new to Ultrabooks, aren't you?
Yeah no way am I buying one without knowing what the proper specs are.
What Microsoft has published is absolute bollocks.
Its 3000x2000
What Microsoft has published is absolute bollocks.
Its 3000x2000
2007 is that way:
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wowbaggerBR
Member
Looks all sweet and all, but it has a HUGE design flaw, in my opinion:
The hinge mechanism doesn't allow you to close it all the way, like a normal laptop.
This is a big deal for me. I'm still holding up to my XPS 13.
The hinge mechanism doesn't allow you to close it all the way, like a normal laptop.
This is a big deal for me. I'm still holding up to my XPS 13.
Prophet Steve
Member
It sounds amazing, but I think I'd want 15 inch for a laptop.
That must have been a cozy rock.
That must have been a cozy rock.
nikos
Member
I would appreciate these companies and products a lot more if they didn't copy Apple, in so many ways, then claim to have a better product.
EDIT: Just watched the video. Looked nice at first, but the hinge and detachable screen ruined it for me. It started to seem like a gimmick at that point. I would rather have individual products that are great for their intended use than an all-in-one solution.
EDIT: Just watched the video. Looked nice at first, but the hinge and detachable screen ruined it for me. It started to seem like a gimmick at that point. I would rather have individual products that are great for their intended use than an all-in-one solution.
Wowfunhappy
Member
Wait, desktops don't have DVD drives?
I understand in laptops--they just aren't practical--but I'd be annoyed if I bought a desktop that didn't have one. They can be useful.
What year is this?
Mihos
Gold Member
They at least put the USB ports on the same side, so if you use a dongled optical drive you have both slots in reach of the cable. My Samsung has the ports on opposite sides and I have to work around that.
Even on the desktop I just ordered, oprical drive is now an 'opt in' feature. I got the Bluray since I rip my 3D videos for my GearVR sometimes.
SmartWaffles
Member
Um, what are you using it for? Unless you still watch DVDs or buy CDs.
Current MBPs are two generations behind for CPU (still using Haswell) compred to this using skylake.
until we know what dGPU the SurfaceBook is using it is too early to say though.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
None of the desktops I buy for my work contain optical drives. And I haven't built a PC with one in almost a decade.
RowdyReverb
Member
They have to do that because if their selling point was "Just as good as Apple" consumers would ask, "Why not just buy from Apple then?"
Cheap is the last word I'd use to describe this.
Yeah, this is just like that device Apple released with the detachable screen and pen input!
I wrote that when I was still under the impression that the base price included a dedicated GPU.
So yeah, it's not cheap.
GitarooMan
Member
That's the crux of the issue for me. Until I know the specifics of the Nvidia GPU and where it slots in, I'm in a wait and see mode. I'm definitely looking to upgrade, the question for me would be whether to go with an SP4/larger gaming-oriented PC combo or just get a Surface Book for both.
I haven't laptop shopped in a couple of years; is this really where we're at now? For that money I want a blu-ray capable drive in there. I thought this was an actual laptop not an ultra/netbook.
The only reason towers near me have optical drives is because I specifically bought one to install it or re-used one from an old tower. And they were pretty much just used to install Windows 7 and never used again.
blu-ray has completely failed to gain anything resembling an actual install base for PC. PC games at retail still ship on DVD if they're available via disc. Some of them are like 10 DVDs.
and over on Mac, Apple has never shipped a blu-ray drive
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....... ha, I assume you are referring to the color?