Surprised the gears bundle isn't 249 with the 50 gift card. Usually you would expect ms to undercut by $50. With them at the same price very, very few people are going to pick an xbox over a PlayStation.
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October 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes November 10th
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Surprised the gears bundle isn't 249 with the 50 gift card. Usually you would expect ms to undercut by $50. With them at the same price very, very few people are going to pick an xbox over a PlayStation.
Didn't ps4 actually win during BF last year? I think I read that are some point.
Yep, knew that we'd see the PS4 at $299. And here we go...
Nov/ Dec NPDs will be madness
$299 + $50 Gift card is insane... Wish there were Meijers in Maryland hehe.
Hopefully Walmart or Target can follow suit and offer both consoles for $299. I'd have to go out of town to get to one of these stores and it's just not worth it and who knows how much stock they really have
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh, my, I'd forgotten all about it being available a week earlier. No doubt that was what MS was counting on too.
ethomaz
Banned
It just.
And these preorder for Star Wars since September? CoD has preorders too?
Now I believe Sony will ship over 8 million this quarter.
lol no. The best their PR could come up with was that PS4 ranked #1 in sales for BF on Amazon.
PanicFreak
Member
I'm thinking that Microsoft drops the price to 300 at E3 next year. Probably with an Xbox One slim.
Yep. I've already stated as much numerous times in Redon se to people spouting the "$400 million in one week" or even better "almost half a billion dollars in one week" bullshit. Prepare to see a lot of it during the NPD results thread.
Dash_Riprock
Member
PS4 at $299 = There goes any chance of MS winning November/December, unless they're willing to go down to 249...
3rdamention
Member
Microsoft had a pretty huge price advantage last year. You would expect them to try to undercut this year as well. Here is how different the Meijer Thanksgiving Day Console sales are from last year. Now last year, Meijer did the exact same thing as this year. Their "real" Black Friday was on Thanksgiving Day. At least that is when they had all the gaming deals, console deals, toy deals, etc. Same way this year.
Meijer 2014 Thanksgiving Day Ad:
PlayStation 4 GTA Bundle with The Last of Us = $399 with $50 off next purchase coupon. Essentially, $349.
Xbox One Assassin's Creed Bundle = $329 with $50 off next purchase coupon. Essentially, $279.
Microsoft had a price advantage of $70 in this same ad last year. The narrative of trying to maximize profits this year for MS, well.......
Ah I see, so there's still another ad coming where they can drop the price more. Yeah I fully expect MS to undercut again. I know just because they can doesn't mean they want to keep losing money on each sale, but I think this is the one time of the year they'll lose money hand over fist to keep the sales at least within sight of the PS4's sales. If they don't undercut, then it'll be a massacre like 2014 except the other way around.
I think both will launch slim models next year at 299$.
It's a pretty predictable move.
3rdamention
Member
"We had more bundles sold during the month of November than any other gaming console!" -MSPR 5 bundles to 4, they aren't lying right?
Honestly though, there are quite a few months of preorders to add to this! Sony has built up a ton of momentum!
In Amazon Monthly Rankings:
September: Star Wars PS4 LE Bundle #16,
October: StarWars PS4 LE Bundle #26, COD PS4 Bundle #39, Star Wars PS4 Bundle #89
I dunno.. I feel like if the PS4 went any slimmer they'd have to have a separate brick to house the mobo CPU and GPU.
ethomaz
Banned
PS4 did win the BF week?
Xbone did win the BF day?
There was something like that last year... or was it UK?
lol
I'm thinking that at least MS will due to the size of the system. I'm fine with the current size to be honest (after experiencing overheating issues with my 360) but the system can definitely be smaller.
3rdamention
Member
No, no, there isn't another ad. I am saying, in Thanksgiving 2014 at Meijer, the X1 was $70 cheaper than a PS4. On Thanksgiving 2015 at Mejier, the X1 and PS4 are the same price!
It is weird, but follows the "maximize profits" narrative that some people were sharing. Microsoft had a pretty big price advantage at all stores last year during the Black Friday weekend. This year, it will be interesting to continue to monitor.
lmao
Yup, CoD and Star Wars bundle has 2 months of pre orders before release.
PS4 sales are gonna be huge this holidays. :O
Where did you got that?
I remember PS4 won December, and November+December, but i'm sure XB1 has won November and Black Friday in UK.
Amazon pre orders for PS4 to be added to November sales
September 2015
#16: Star Wars LE bundle
October 2015
#26: Star Wars LE bundle
#39: COD BLOPS 3 bundle
#89: Star Wars SE bundle
ethomaz
Banned
Ohhhh it was UK only.
BF day = Xbone
BF week = PS4
November = Xbone
December = PS4
November + December = PS4
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Ya its pretty sad really, specially because they have the most appealing games coming out this holiday. Looks like Sony will again be on top with the crazy 3rd party marketing and overall popularity of the console. I remember feeling sad for PS3 last gen. For exact same reason. Now tables have turned.
Chobel
Member
I remember you said that Sony can't win this Holiday unless they go cheaper than XBO, what happened to that?
Well, let's put it that way.
Every deals are crazy around BF, that's not new. And it's going to be the case for all consoles.
And the "season" has already started. Tomorrow is COD.
Tuesday is Fallout 4/ RotTR. The Tuesday after that it's Battlefront.
If there was going to be a game changer widespread price cut, it would have -already- happened.
Right now, MS is fighting back with a (relatively) weak "you can get yourself a COD bundle too!" with a free game for a few days at some retailers. That'll sell some, but nowhere near as much as a general "temporary" price cut for 2 months. That's more like damage control to mitigate the pre orders of the bundles. Somewhat.
This make sense, i remember some article about XB1 > PS4 in Black Friday.
So, XB1 won the day, but PS4 the week...
Aren't you mixing regions?
For UK we can only know.
BF day: PS4
Cyber Monday PS4
November XBO
December PS4
November + December PS4
ethomaz
Banned
Sony said the sold more at BF week on UK, no?
Yea I can't see it either. Doesn't mean it can't happen but I just don't see it. Black Friday we'll get deals from retailers that go down to $299 most likely but I can't see MS announcing something like that officially.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Halo 5 word of mouth doesn't seem that must go buy Xbox One as I expected. May be Halo tournament and momentum around that will do more market awareness. On top of that, based on these PS4 sale prices, they really are hitting the 300$ which I never expected. We will see though, I think during holiday, both console will sell out. It will depend on who will make more.
They just need to shrink the APU to a sub 20nm process. CPU and GPU have always been integrated on a single die.
Then everything else becomes smaller as a consequence (heatsink, motherboard, power supply).
That's the key component deciding when they can make a Slim model.
Remember that for them making a slim model is a way to cut costs first and foremost. It's in their financial interests.
They're not doing it for the sake of making it tiny and pretty.
That's a perceived added value that consumers see in it.
Also next year they need to reduce the entry price of PS4 to push Playstation VR as well, the whole package PS4+PSVR needs to be more affordable.
Isn't it crazy that it's already COD tomorrow? Man then in a few days you have Fallout 4 and Tomb Raider and then a week later we got Battlefront. We're right on the doorstep but my brain keeps thinking we're still a few weeks out from these releases lol.
I guess I'm more so waiting for Black Friday...just to see the deals offered. That and we still have to wait a whole week for NPD lol.
I'm beginning to think Nov will be a blood bath unless MS does something drastic.
Week was for XBO.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/black-friday-boosts-for-xbox-one-and-ps4-in-uk-too/0142152
BF week XBO
BF day PS4
Good luck
I starting to hope they will ship 8 million just because if will happen will be too hilarius. xD
But i still think won't happen, i believe they already overshipped in Q3 for the pricedrop incoming.
...But hey, if i'm wrong, you know what will happen.
Sangetsu-II
Member
Ryng_Tolu
I will never doubt Sony holidays ever again
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Definitely. I'm just saying it because a lot of current Xbox One owners would be interested in a smaller model (since the system is pretty large). It would do well whenever it released.
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Pre-orders from September and October will probably only make up around 1/8 of overall November sales. This is going to be a crazy month for game sales. Definitely seems like PS4 will take the Holiday season due to Star Wars & COD branding though. MS would need a $250 SKU at this point to make me feel differently.
Yup, agreed completely. The PS4 is set to have an amazing holiday season. Assuming both Sony and Microsoft have even more insane deals on Black Friday, I can see the PS4 beating the XB1 by 200K or more. Hopefully, Sony learnt their lesson and prepared enough stock this time because those Battlefront bundles are gonna sell incredibly well.
I'm not too sure about shipping over 8 million just yet. 37 million by the end of 2015 should be within reach, so that would be 7.7 million shipped in Q4. Gotta wait for November NPD to see how well the PS4 will do this holidays.
I expect the PS4 to have another price drop in March with the launch of UC4 in preparation for PSVR, they need as many PS4s out there as possible, & they need the PS4VR bundle to be as affordable as possible, with another price cut, it's theoretically possible the PS4VR bundle will retail at 499, which is a good price for the bundle.
You'll order one of theseI starting to hope they will ship 8 million just because if will happen will be too hilarius. xD
But i still think won't happen, i believe they already overshipped in Q3 for the pricedrop incoming.
...But hey, if i'm wrong, you know what will happen.
Another price drop? No way.
No way.
No way, man, that would be way too soon and they could devalue the console like Microsoft did, dropping the price so quickly. Now a price drop when PSVR launches is possible and I think the bundle will be at least $549.
Also, as for those who expected a XB1 price drop for the holidays, I hate to say it, but I told you so
It could still happen, but at this point, I doubt it. BO3 releases today, holidays already began.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Oh dear lord, lol xD
I hope you have a stomach made out of steel