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[Lime]

I have no words. Its the world we live in now I guess, where everything is an offense to someone. People just can't enjoy whatever they like anymore. There is always something or someone to complain about. A big fucking shame.

Hopefully somehow TK change their minds and launch the game in the west at some point, but its still beyond stupid that we have to go through all this process to begin with.

This is exactly why Play Asia doing this thing is hurtful to the conversation. Now people like this poster for example actually believe that this was because of some SJW conspiracy rather than because of lowered sales, as already pointed out throughout the thread and in that USGamer article.

Their social media employee is only doing damage to any public conversation by conjuring up bullshit that people will believe, all because they wanted to increase PA's sales.

 

[Guess Who]

"Tits are Life, Ass is Hometown" would make a great hip hop mixtape name tbh

 

[Robaperas]

It goes way beyond that, and I get the impression people know why but are just playing dumb and passing it off. You also kind of proved my point again, and just did the same post I replied to, worded differently.

Not really, what's beyond that?.

 

[Ushojax]

By this logic I'm amazed beaches around covered with more cum than sand.

Maybe you should click the voyeur tab on a porn site.

It's OK to call this game out for what it is, a cheap piece of work aimed at lonely otakus. It's not going to lead to all tits being taken out of video games.

 

[Battlechili]

And then there's shit like this: https://twitter.com/playasia/status/669400478472605696

How do people like this get jobs being social media coordinators?

Reminds me of some of Marvelous Games' posts.

I think its all marketing to who they perceive to be their core buyers/target audience.

 

[Soliloquy]

We're supposed to masturbate to this game.

Character model viewers in games are for masturbation purposes.

Huh, sure the girls got boobs and ass but I frankly found the models Tecmo came with rather ugly. I guess humans can really masterbate to anything if they really try.

 

[Klossen]

This is exactly why Play Asia doing this thing is hurtful to the conversation. Now people like this poster for example actually believe that this was because of some SJW conspiracy rather than because of lowered sales, as already pointed out throughout the thread and in that USGamer article.

Their social media employee is only doing damage to any public conversation by conjuring up something in order to increase PA's sales.

And there have been plenty of official statements indicating more than just that. But let's all play dumb and act oblivious to social media of 2015.

 

[DICKS AHOY]

PS4 is a holy vessel and masturbation should not occur near it, or be facilitated through it.

what else am i supposed to do with the playstation camera

 

[Hektor]

It's inappropriate in 2015 to release a game on PS4 that is just meant to be masturbated to.

Please explain.

 

[NinjamicWZ]

I don't understand why you're being sarcastic. I have masturbated plenty of times with The Evil Within model viewer.

Dude, I was totally thinking of The Evil Within's model viewer when I typed that.

 

[Sephiroth_VII]

There are more people in Japan who would spend money on this type of game. Which is why it is not being released here. This silly game is meant to tittilate male gamers and get them to buy various skimpy costumes. That is the design principle behind the game. That's why there is a camera mode that lets you examine the characters in detail.

I never said it was inappropriate for a masturbation aid. It's inappropriate in 2015 to release a game on PS4 that is just meant to be masturbated to. Tecmo obviously agree as they don't want to release the game outside Japan where such products are commonplace. If they were marketing this as a masturbation aid and not a game, I wouldn't care. Beach Spikers was a volleyball game. This is a model viewer with a volleyball mode bolted on.

Why is that inappropriate? Why can't we have games designed to be sexy? In fact, let's go further. Why can't we have pornographic games in the west? Why is interactive porn a bad thing? I'd argue it's better than live-action pornography, since no one is actually selling their body for money. Yet people like you hate on this game for being all about T&A.

What is your problem?

 

[Quote]

PlayAsia themselves said to keep things civil and away from harassment. I think too many assumptions are being made by everyone.
Still, you can't say "No one is campaigning for anything" when you've got people actively boycotting the outlet with an English release recommended by the devs themselves. Or at least the EU branch.

I'm going to assume you're being sincere.

They tweeted that after retweeting GG. Calling out "SJW" is pandering to a specific audience that is known for harassing people.

I never said "No one is campaigning for anything", I specifically said no one is campaigning against a localized NA release. Play-Asia has always sold these games and always will, no one has ever or is trying to prevent that.

I hope that helps.

 

[LiK]

There are more people in Japan who would spend money on this type of game. Which is why it is not being released here. This silly game is meant to tittilate male gamers and get them to buy various skimpy costumes. That is the design principle behind the game. That's why there is a camera mode that lets you examine the characters in detail.

I never said it was inappropriate for a masturbation aid. It's inappropriate in 2015 to release a game on PS4 that is just meant to be masturbated to. Tecmo obviously agree as they don't want to release the game outside Japan where such products are commonplace. If they were marketing this as a masturbation aid and not a game, I wouldn't care. Beach Spikers was a volleyball game. This is a model viewer with a volleyball mode bolted on.

people masturbate to a lot of other PS4 games. you should've seen those live streams on Ustream.

 

[HGH]

Reminds me of some of Marvelous Games' posts.

I think its all marketing to who they perceive to be their core buyers/target audience.

Yeah, it's a word for word quote from Kenichiro Takaki of Marvelous.

 

[Lime]

And there have been plenty of official statements indicating more than just that. But let's all play dumb and act oblivious to social media of 2015.

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/doax3-still-not-releasing-in-us-koei-tecmo-makes-excuses

Besides, the social media guy is retweeting racists, so I don't know what to tell you.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

That's one way to lose business.

I told you guys so.

 

[Lernaean]

Dude, I was totally thinking of The Evil Within's model viewer when I typed that.

XD

 

[Kazerei]

PlayAsia themselves said to keep things civil and away from harassment. I think too many assumptions are being made by everyone.
Still, you can't say "No one is campaigning for anything" when you've got people actively boycotting the outlet with an English release recommended by the devs themselves. Or at least the EU branch.

No one is campaigning against releasing DOAX3 in the west, as far as I can tell. People are boycotting PlayAsia over their rhetoric. Two separate things.

 

[LuuKyK]

This is exactly why Play Asia doing this thing is hurtful to the conversation. Now people like this poster for example actually believe that this was because of some SJW conspiracy rather than because of lowered sales, as already pointed out throughout the thread and in that USGamer article.

Their social media employee is only doing damage to any public conversation by conjuring up something in order to increase PA's sales.

I am not saying this because of what Play Asia mentioned. You really believe the sole reason why they are not bringing the game is "lowered sales"? Just look at some of the games that are being released in the west lately... I mean, there are PSP games being launched. Its not like the game wasn't mainly developed for a japanese audience to begin with, so thats about what they should expect the game to sell. Anything that would come from the west would be a profit in a sense that its beyond whatever their first "main" audience was. And DOAX is not really a hard game to be localized, so it wouldn't demand much time/money in that regard.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

You guys just aren't seeing it from KT's perspective. Imagine releasing a game only to have the press turn on it and run nothing but negative articles about it for months on end. Imagine how that would hurt the bottom line. I'm sure it would do irreparable damage to sales. It's totally impossible to deal with negative press and haters and still be financially successful.

Spoiler

 

[Lime]

I am not saying this because of what Play Asia mentioned. You really believe the sole reason why they are not bringing the game is "lowered sales"? Just look at some of the games that are being released in the west lately... I mean, there are PSP games being launched. Its not like the game wasn't mainly developed for a japanese audience to begin with, so thats about what they should expect the game to sell. Anything that would come from the west would be a profit in a sense that its beyond whatever their first "main" audience was. And DOAX is not really a hard game to be localized, so it wouldn't demand much time/money in that regard.

Read this: http://www.usgamer.net/articles/doax3-still-not-releasing-in-us-koei-tecmo-makes-excuses

Or Charlequin's or Shocking Alberto's posts in this thread

Blame KT for this, not some SJW illuminati (or people who champion inclusion and diversity in games)

 

[Hexa]

lmao
I think they're going to be OK.

 

[Akiller]

 

[Klossen]

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/doax3-still-not-releasing-in-us-koei-tecmo-makes-excuses

Besides, the social media guy is retweeting racists, so I don't know what to tell you.

I'm talking about KT statements. All have already been posted in this thread. I don't know why you deny the existence of those statements.

 

[LiK]

wow, someone at P-A doesn't give a fuck

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Hopefully KT will see that there is demand for this game after all and announce localisation, thus leading to mass cancellation of Play Asia pre-orders. 🙏

 

[Lernaean]

Hopefully KT will see that there is demand for this game after all and announce localisation, thus leading to mass cancellation of Play Asia pre-orders. 🙏

That would be too funny.

 

[Daemul]

Just release the damn game in the west ffs, most people wouldn't give a fuck.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Tomorrow the Twitter account's logo will be green and purple I guess

 

[Battlechili]

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/doax3-still-not-releasing-in-us-koei-tecmo-makes-excuses

Besides, the social media guy is retweeting racists, so I don't know what to tell you.

Not that I'm defending racists or what's being retweeted, but how is what's being retweeted originating from racists important? Is not what is being retweeted and the words in the retweet more important than who they came from? Why is who they came from important? I want more focus on the individual statements themselves.

Also, that article is really biased in one direction. How is it a trustworthy source? Not that I'm saying some of the information in there is good, but it can be difficult to discern facts from the opinions in there, and its making a google search out to be too important.

 

[Ushojax]

Why is that inappropriate? Why can't we have games designed to be sexy? In fact, let's go further. Why can't we have pornographic games in the west? Why is interactive porn a bad thing? I'd argue it's better than live-action pornography, since no one is actually selling their body for money. Yet people like you hate on this game for being all about T&A.

What is your problem?

If you want to make a porn game then go right ahead. Don't make this softcore playboy shit designed to sell overpriced DLC costumes to sex-starved neckbeards and pretend it's a volleyball game.

I wouldn't even care if this game did get released in the west, the market can decide whether they want it or not.

 

[dity]

lmao
I think they're going to be OK.

They're being followed by a lot of low use anime accounts and egg accounts. They may as well be being mass followed by bots for all it's worth, your audience doesn't increase if the people following you barely use Twitter.

 

[Palculator]

lmao
I think they're going to be OK.

ヽ( ´ー&#65344ﾉ

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Just release the damn game in the west ffs, most people wouldn't give a fuck.

Honestly, they are probably afraid of the very possible backlash from the media, etc and the fact that a game like this probably would;t appeal to most shooter/sports loving gamers in the West.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

lmao
I think they're going to be OK.

How do you populism?

 

[QuantumZebra]

Both sides?

One side prevented the other from enjoying a video game. A video game.

Spoiler

Not like it was going to sell much anyway.

Uh, pretty sure SJWs didn't stop DOAX3. It being garbage and selling like garbage stopped DOAX3.

 

[Blackthorn]

Fast forward a few months, thousands of GGers pretend to love DOA, forcing themselves to play for hours, stoically sticking it to those darn SJWs.

 

[mckmas8808]

I am not saying this because of what Play Asia mentioned. You really believe the sole reason why they are not bringing the game is "lowered sales"? Just look at some of the games that are being released in the west lately... I mean, there are PSP games being launched. Its not like the game wasn't mainly developed for a japanese audience to begin with, so thats about what they should expect the game to sell. Anything that would come from the west would be a profit in a sense that its beyond whatever their first "main" audience was. And DOAX is not really a hard game to be localized, so it wouldn't demand much time/money in that regard.

But you don't think it's because of social media that it's not being released do you?

 

[NotLiquid]

And then there's shit like this: https://twitter.com/playasia/status/669400478472605696

How do people like this get jobs being social media coordinators?

This tweet is a reference to Senran Kagura and it's creator though.

 

[SlipperyFishes]

Fast forward a few months, thousands of GGers pretend to love DOA, forcing themselves to play for hours, stoically sticking it to those darn SJWs.

And buying all that costume DLC

 

[Lernaean]

Uh, pretty sure SJWs didn't stop DOAX3. It being garbage and selling like garbage stopped DOAX3.

Being garbage never stopped way too many western games see release

 

[Maedhros]

There are PSP games being released, that probably don't sell much better than this game would...

This type of advertisement is really the best.

 

[GitarooMan]

It's amazing how Tecmo has managed to deflect on this. People have a right to think and say how they feel about a game. Ultimately it's on Tecmo to decide how they want to proceed. Nothing is stopping them from releasing this except their own decisions on how they want to approach the NA market.

 

[Ferr986]

Honestly, they are probably afraid of the very possible backlash from the media, etc and the fact that a game like this probably would;t appeal to most shooter/sports loving gamers in the West.

They weren't afraid of media backlash when they keep releasing overpriced DOA5 DLC costumes or a shit PC port.

I love DOA5, but I don't buy Team Ninja bullshit that they don't release this game because "backlash".

It's amazing how Tecmo has managed to deflect on this. People have a right to think and say how they feel about a game. Ultimately it's on Tecmo to decide how they want to proceed. Nothing is stopping them from releasing this except their own decisions on how they want to approach the NA market.

It's easier and better to put the blame on others than saying to your western fans that you don't really care about investing money to bring the game here.

 

[IcyStorm]

Being garbage never stopped way too many western games see release

Yeah, but maybe the Western garbage sold well to continue selling. DOAX2 didn't.

 

[Palculator]

Uh, pretty sure SJWs didn't stop DOAX3. It being garbage and selling like garbage stopped DOAX3.

Or it's selling like garbage because it's not released.

 

[Pellegri Testament]

Uh, pretty sure SJWs didn't stop DOAX3. It being garbage and selling like garbage stopped DOAX3.

Ya because we would know how it plays or how it sold already when the game doesn't release until February.

 

[Anne]

I'm talking about KT statements. All have already been posted in this thread. I don't know why you deny the existence of those statements.

As a lot of people have stated in this thread and in this article, there's a tremendous amount of reason to believe what the KT FB said is bullshit. We all know it was said, but we're smart enough to go "wait that doesn't make any sense. There's probably something else going on here." When you look at it, it's clear as day there is something else going on here.

I mean, does it really matter though? If KT is sincere and this is why they aren't announcing a localization right now, that just makes them incredibly stupid. There is no backlash atm, there's not really a threat of one, the only threat is some pretty bad reviews. If they're leaving money on the table over that, then they really are just plain stupid and you shouldn't blame "SJWs" on them being ass.

Or, it really has to do with the Asian market being exploited, a fear of reverse importing, and a belief that the game won't make enough money in the west in order to turn profit at the risk of some small bad press.

Either way you cut it, the narrative sucks for the people wanting to level blame at "SJWs". Either they are getting played by Play-Asia to pay a premium on an import(and get free publicity within that demographic), or KT is actually completely stupid and leaving a ton of money out there for no good reason. I tend to lean on the former.

 

[RMI]

I see some people mention Amiami as an alternative in the first page and feel I have to say, I wouldn't exactly say they are a good/great alternative (though I do use them). You are pretty much not allowed to cancel once you have made an order from them plus they don't tend to get stock back in once they have sold out (at least not that I've seen).

They are good for pre-orders though as long as you know you won't need to cancel it (due to a change in circumstance or anything like that)

I have cancelled maybe a dozen items from amiami over the past few years without issue. As long as you don't abuse the cancellation requests and are polite they don't really care.

 

[n00bsauce87]

ITT: People upset not buying from PlayAsia, but will buy the game elsewhere which would make them agree with their stance.

Because if you didn't plan on buying it in the first place, PlayAsia wasn't going to get your money regardless on how you felt about their twitter campaign