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Werewolf |OT| Was it all just a Dream?

Fireblend

Banned
Hi guys

Please don't lynch me

Will try and catch up

Welcome! Do catch up and provide reads before the day phase is over :D

BTW, I'm not going to be as active as I'd like til the end of the day. The company I work for is about to sign with a big client and a part of that involves me having a meeting with them tomorrow, which I'll have to do some serious studying for =/

I'll be following the thread closely but I have some serious work to do IRL. My reads which I provided yesterday are staying the same for now.
 

CzarTim

Member
Rats does not seem like he particularly cares who we lynch and has jumped on most of the easily bandwagons with little reasoning of his own. His posts are wishy-washy in the scummiest of ways.
 

Swamped

Banned
Rats does not seem like he particularly cares who we lynch and has jumped on most of the easily bandwagons with little reasoning of his own. His posts are wishy-washy in the scummiest of ways.

Yes, I do feel like most of his posts lack some depth (I think I said so earlier this day phase). The one thing that's niggling away at me is that he said he gets 'bad vibes' from Time, and Time is still my top wolf. Of course, this could be read as distancing, so I wouldn't mind seeing either of them flip.
 

Warxard

Banned
Boo Boo'n - Here's some previous posts of mine, the first one in response to his reads from yesterday:









He's posted several times since, and guess what he has yet to do. Why are you so afraid, Boo? I said yesterday you not giving me some town reads wasn't enough to keep my vote on you, but this is starting to look weird. Is your plan to just straight-up ignore me and hope I go away? Come on.

The "inactives": So, we have a very real inactives problem. GLT, Sketch, 'Bro, MattyG... on one hand it's very possible there's scum on that list. On the other... if we misfire we're sort of doing scum's job by denying ourselves any useful info that would come from the flip of a more active player. If we decide to lynch an inactive who has barely been in the game, we'll be relying on the NKs to clue us in on where to go next, and that's wolf territory, we're letting them move first, and that's something they'd like.

Burb, Swamped, Xam, Zipped and MattyG voted for GLT in relatively quick succession. Burb justified his vote, but the other votes seemed bandwagony and reactionary. If GLT isn't scum, I'd be willing to bet at least one of those 4 is. Xam is among them, so there's one more reason I'm keeping my vote on him for now.

Going to sleep.

Wait, I'm quite sure that I responded accordingly to your request of town reads on that day???
 

CzarTim

Member
I will vote for Rats, Time, or Zipp today. Preferably in that order as that is most to least likely scum imo. Will also lynch Star, but we won't learn much from her flip.
 

Warxard

Banned
Oh, you want my thoughts on who is top town and top scum. Alrighty.

Scum

Zippped - I need to know who visited you, and the hesitant nature for not answering isn't exactly helping anyone. Otherwise, you're on the list.
Xam - still don't like the guy. I have backposts upon backposts as to why.
Lollipop Dave - Uncontributive!

Town
Ultron - I can at least feel confident in thinking Ultron is town. Past information in the thread and Batsnacks sudden revelation makes him a lock for town.

I'm out right now so I'll try to add more later today.
 

Warxard

Banned
I will vote for Rats, Time, or Zipp today. Preferably in that order as that is most to least likely scum imo. Will also lynch Star, but we won't learn much from her flip.

I'm just curious: where does your suspicion lie for Timeasis? The majority of his few posts or so has been debating the batsnacks roleclaim. Is there something else there to keep him middling in suspicion in your eyes?

I wouldn't exactly call him town either, somewhere in a really weird neutral spot.
 
I have been visited by neither sleepwalker.

Sorry for the cagey-ness, but I wanted to make sure that you both agreed before I did it.

I'm not trying to sound scummy here, I just read the situation wrong when Cabot died and figured a reveal would be helpful to town.
 

kingkitty

Member
Alright, I've laid out my reasons for why I have bad vibes for Zipped and Time.

For now, I'll vote Zipped for giving me stronger bad vibes. His role claim doesn't soothe my vibes either.

vote: Zippedpinhead

I'm also in favor of switching my vote last minute to Hyperactivity.
 

Timeaisis

Member
If I was scum I'd be trying a lot harder, believe me.

Well, this is kind of a weird thing to say.

Tim is right, though. It does seem like you've been jumping on a lot of bandwagons the past few days. GLT a couple days ago, me yesterday, and now Zipped. The Zipped one is especially weird. You decided to come out of the woodwork to vote for Zipped? I don't want to over-analyze your timing, but it's like you smelled a bandwagon forming and jumped on it as soon as you could.

Here's the post:
VOTE: zippedpinhead

That claim is weird, and his cageyness about the sleepwalkers doesn't make any sense. What's the harm in revealing that you were visited by them? All it does is support the claims they already made. It feels like you're trying to score Town points by acting concerned.

Also, welcome, Hyper.

For the record, here, your logic is sound here, I have no problem with the contents of this post, really. It's just the timing and context.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Nice, that was a brilliant waste. I have literally no idea what your goal here was, Zipped. What in the world do you think would have happened if you said neither ultron or Xam visited you in the first place?

They are SLEEPWALKERS (or so they claim). If they visited you, they wouldn't even know. What, do you think ultron could go "I didn't visit him!" if you claimed otherwise? Who would be the most suspicious in that exchange?

I don't get it.
 

Warxard

Banned
And it's both of you agree to the reveal or neither gets revealed.

This is for one reason only, I don't want people drawing conclusions based on one person being open about walking into my house and being revealed and the other not wanting to be (and/or never showing up in my house unexpectedly).

Sounds pretty goalpost mov-y.

The sleepwalkers don't know if they visited you, and it's likely that nobody else does either, so there's no-one who can dispute what you say. If they did visit you then it supports their claims, if they didn't then it tells us nothing. I don't get this reluctance to share.

I could've sworn that there was a role that watched people during the night phase, where in that case that person could probably know where the sleepy dude went right?

I have been visited by neither sleepwalker.

Sorry for the cagey-ness, but I wanted to make sure that you both agreed before I did it.

I'm not trying to sound scummy here, I just read the situation wrong when Cabot died and figured a reveal would be helpful to town.

So you lied about your role huh. Cool.

VOTE: Zippedinthehead
 

Warxard

Banned
Well, this is kind of a weird thing to say.

Tim is right, though. It does seem like you've been jumping on a lot of bandwagons the past few days. GLT a couple days ago, me yesterday, and now Zipped. The Zipped one is especially weird. You decided to come out of the woodwork to vote for Zipped? I don't want to over-analyze your timing, but it's like you smelled a bandwagon forming and jumped on it as soon as you could.

Here's the post:


For the record, here, your logic is sound here, I have no problem with the contents of this post, really. It's just the timing and context.

Yeah proclaiming to the group "well shit if /I/ was scum you wouldn't catch me!!!" isn't the best idea, at the same time we know beforehand that Rats is sporadic with his posts for a reason at least.

I'd say it's purely coincidental really.
 
I have been visited by neither sleepwalker.

Sorry for the cagey-ness, but I wanted to make sure that you both agreed before I did it.

I'm not trying to sound scummy here, I just read the situation wrong when Cabot died and figured a reveal would be helpful to town.
Were you visited by Terra? Or anyone, really? I don't really understand why you'd role claim if you have no information to share at all and your role doesn't actually make you suspicious or dangerous. It's like you're revealing your ace in the hole before you even need an ace.

Not that I think you're scum, necessarily, but it's really odd.
 
I did not lie about my role. I am an insomniac watched, I only get told people who visit me.

Frankly, I think some wolves are trying to kill me during the day so that they don't have to waste one of their kills at night.

Top scum: (based on who wants to kill me now)

Boo boo'n
rats off to ya

Not sure what to think about:
Kingkitty
Fluxwavz

I haven't been visited by any sleepwalker, and those who have visited me probably had their reasons (though hopefully no nefarious ones).

look at these votes if I die today or tonight, the wolves want me gone and want town to do it.
 

Timeaisis

Member
I did not lie about my role. I am an insomniac watched, I only get told people who visit me.

Frankly, I think some wolves are trying to kill me during the day so that they don't have to waste one of their kills at night.

Top scum: (based on who wants to kill me now)

Boo boo'n
rats off to ya

Not sure what to think about:
Kingkitty
Fluxwavz

I haven't been visited by any sleepwalker, and those who have visited me probably had their reasons (though hopefully no nefarious ones).

look at these votes if I die today or tonight, the wolves want me gone and want town to do it.

So you have been visited by someone?
 

batsnacks

Member
What if the serial killer visited zipp and zipp didn't die because he's a boy? :O

What if my idea about unvoting zipp to see if a power role dies actually isn't very good?
 
Just had a thought. The best scum lie is a half truth, so I'm inclined to believe zipped's ability is what he says it is. Mechanically, does his claimed role make more sense as Town or scum? I'm leaning toward the latter. He passively gets told who visits him, and just by the numbers he's probably more likely to be visited by a Town role than a scum one. As Town, that information by itself isn't very useful, especially seeing as a visit from a wolf often results in death. As a wolf who knows who the other wolves are, that information is incredibly useful. The passivity of his ability could be a way to limit its utility.
 

Timeaisis

Member
What if the serial killer visited zipp and zipp didn't die because he's a boy? :O

What if my idea about unvoting zipp to see if a power role dies actually isn't very good?

It's not very good because you are assuming if he's scum he's a scum-aligned insomniac watcher instead of just a scum that needed a convenient roleclaim.
 

Burbeting

Banned
What if the serial killer visited zipp and zipp didn't die because he's a boy? :O

What if my idea about unvoting zipp to see if a power role dies actually isn't very good?

I still have to doubt, that Palmer would reuse the gender-SK again, especially since he already revealed that gimmick to everyone after Werewolf one.
 
I still have to doubt, that Palmer would reuse the gender-SK again, especially since he already revealed that gimmick to everyone after Werewolf one.

There is nothing about a gender in my role, I would be surprised if this was a mechanic that only one player could see or be affected by it.

On another note, I've tried to play my reveal off as a bad game move and it's been partly that but there is one small part of my role that is part of the reason why I had to reveal today.

If I don't reveal by the end of day three, I recover from the insomnia (the flavor says its recurring paranoia) and become regular town. I figured it would help if I revealed at the beginning of the day than at the end.

I kept this to myself because now that I have revealed it doesn't matter, I stay an insomniac. As useless or useful as that entails...
 

kingkitty

Member
Just had a thought. The best scum lie is a half truth, so I'm inclined to believe zipped's ability is what he says it is. Mechanically, does his claimed role make more sense as Town or scum? I'm leaning toward the latter. He passively gets told who visits him, and just by the numbers he's probably more likely to be visited by a Town role than a scum one. As Town, that information by itself isn't very useful, especially seeing as a visit from a wolf often results in death. As a wolf who knows who the other wolves are, that information is incredibly useful. The passivity of his ability could be a way to limit its utility.

Getting visited by a wolf could lead to a bad time. But other wolf visits might be wolf blocks, wolf investigations, wolf question mark spells, etc. And I think Zipped's role could have been helpful to town by him keeping a list of people's visit, and see if they could contradict with what people were saying in the thread. If so-and-so said he investigated Bob on night 2, and Zipped knew that Bob visited him instead, there's the contradiction. Or how an ordinary townie ends up visiting Zipped, which would contradict that claim.

But with Zipped claiming out in the open so early, makes the role way less useful.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
If I don't reveal by the end of day three, I recover from the insomnia (the flavor says its recurring paranoia) and become regular town. I figured it would help if I revealed at the beginning of the day than at the end.

I kept this to myself because now that I have revealed it doesn't matter, I stay an insomniac. As useless or useful as that entails...

Hahahahaha...
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Right. If it wasn't convincing before, you sure helped.
 

Makai

Member
There is nothing about a gender in my role, I would be surprised if this was a mechanic that only one player could see or be affected by it.

On another note, I've tried to play my reveal off as a bad game move and it's been partly that but there is one small part of my role that is part of the reason why I had to reveal today.

If I don't reveal by the end of day three, I recover from the insomnia (the flavor says its recurring paranoia) and become regular town. I figured it would help if I revealed at the beginning of the day than at the end.

I kept this to myself because now that I have revealed it doesn't matter, I stay an insomniac. As useless or useful as that entails...
This tipped it for me. Why did you try to "play it off" when you could have just explained your role? You're terrible.

Vote: Zippedpinhead
 
There is nothing about a gender in my role, I would be surprised if this was a mechanic that only one player could see or be affected by it.

On another note, I've tried to play my reveal off as a bad game move and it's been partly that but there is one small part of my role that is part of the reason why I had to reveal today.

If I don't reveal by the end of day three, I recover from the insomnia (the flavor says its recurring paranoia) and become regular town. I figured it would help if I revealed at the beginning of the day than at the end.

I kept this to myself because now that I have revealed it doesn't matter, I stay an insomniac. As useless or useful as that entails...
There would have been no reason for you to not announce that with your initial claim
 
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