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PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
doesn't really say much about a console how much it sells though.. but good job i guess.

i'm still pretty disappointed Sony went for a cheaper, not so powerful console. also it's too noisy, controller has seriously pathetic battery life (constant annoyance), lacking features even the PS3 had etc. definitely not the best console ever in my experience. i hope they try harder next time.

Parody or real?
 

Moonstone

Member
via Zhuge:

WW vs USA (shipments and sell through)
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GHG

Member
what was too much? i dunno, i was being honest as a PS4 owner. it's definitely not a powerful machine, it does lack features (i cant even put my own music on it, wtf?), the controller battery IS pathetic..

So do you think everyone else who owns the console isn't being honest?
 

Blanquito

Member
Yeah, stupid Sony sold their console for $400. Why not FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS instead? I don't see anything that could possibly go wrong with that.
 

Raist

Banned
no man, I won't be satisfied period. Let this game be its own game. I am interested in it because I'm a fan of MM but I still want LBP4. It's not just about the whole "play create share" shit for me. LBP2 was imo one of the best PS3 games, and it gave me a "Mario party" feeling with my friends that I'm not feeling from dreams.

The thing is that LBP is reaching its limitations now. Not much can be done to improve the game drastically.
 

Papacheeks

Banned
what was too much? i dunno, i was being honest as a PS4 owner. it's definitely not a powerful machine, it does lack features (i cant even put my own music on it, wtf?), the controller battery IS pathetic..

So I take it you don't own a flash drive?

PS4 MP3 PLAYER

Also it is a powerful machine for what your paying. Have you seen games what Infamous:ss, Killzone:shadow fall, The OrDER:1886, and Uncharted 4 look like?
 
what was too much? i dunno, i was being honest as a PS4 owner. it's definitely not a powerful machine, it does lack features (i cant even put my own music on it, wtf?), the controller battery IS pathetic..

You can use your own music. Is this another "Printer Support" meme?
The controller battery lasts 4-5 hours which might seem pathetic next to Wii U Pro Controller. But again, what doesn't...?
 

Heimbeck

Banned
So do you think everyone else who owns the console isn't being honest?

No?
Why would he think that? There's nothing in his post to suggest he would.

I have some bad news for you regarding the future of video game consoles...
Yeah, stupid Sony sold their console for $400. Why not FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE US DOLLARS instead? I don't see anything that could possibly go wrong with that.

Doesn't mean he can't be disappointed by it.

Why so much hostility for someone just saying some of the complaints they have?
 

LT Snoshado

Member
Gaming consoles are dead.

This, but still...

I can't remember the last time I turned my PS4 on but I don't feel the urge to get rid of it (like I did with my One). Just picked up at GTX 970 for my PC so I can start diving into games like GTA V and Just Cause 3 on a more powerful platform.. Either way, the PS4 has a very exciting line up of games for 2016 and I'm excited to pick some up! GG Sony!
 
We all know what that's like
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Well that's okay because everybody equally would be having a good time.
The thing is that LBP is reaching its limitations now. Not much can be done to improve the game drastically.
No it isn't. The right step for LBP3 was going full on 3D. That would've been the natural transition for the franchise, just like how Mario went through it with Mario 64. The limitations would feel waaay out reach again if they would've done that.
 

Heimbeck

Banned
But it is the most powerful console out. /confused

I thin they mean more how when the 360 released it was a really awesome piece of tech, PS4 is the most powerful console but it's not like things used to be.
Saying it's not a powerful machine is not really the best way to put it though.
 
You can use your own music. Is this another "Printer Support" meme?
The controller battery lasts 4-5 hours which might seem pathetic next to Wii U Pro Controller. But again, what doesn't...?

4-5? Mine never drains that fast. I get at least around 6 hours. Besides anyone who regularly plays game more than 5-6 hours at a time surely has more than one controller no?
 

Intrigue

Banned
I thin they mean more how when the 360 released it was a really awesome piece of tech, PS4 is the most powerful console but it's not like things used to be.
Saying it's not a powerful machine is not really the best way to put it though.

I dont get what they think,

Sure it could be more powerful, so could the competition, neither is. Currently the PS4 is the most powerful console out, so saying it isn't enough is silly.

If you want raw power that you can keep up with technology with, get a PC. Apples vs Oranges.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
I thin they mean more how when the 360 released it was a really awesome piece of tech, PS4 is the most powerful console but it's not like things used to be.
Saying it's not a powerful machine is not really the best way to put it though.

Like things used to be?

I have been gaming for 30 years my friend, it is EXACTLY how things have been. Things are evolving sure, and I appreciated with MSFT did with the 360 for online connectivity, and was my go to console last gen since getting it day one...

But as far as graphical leaps, and just being a gaming machine, it is going as it has been.

Which my point still stands. It is the most powerful console out... so "it is a weak machine" is a "weak argument".
 

hawk2025

Member
doesn't really say much about a console how much it sells though.. but good job i guess.

i'm still pretty disappointed Sony went for a cheaper, not so powerful console. also it's too noisy, controller has seriously pathetic battery life (constant annoyance), lacking features even the PS3 had etc. definitely not the best console ever in my experience. i hope they try harder next time.

Actually, it says quite a lot.

It says 36 million people were willing to buy it at those prices.
 

Heimbeck

Banned
I dont get what they think,

Sure it could be more powerful, so could the competition, neither is. Currently the PS4 is the most powerful console out, so saying it isn't enough is silly.

If you want raw power that you can keep up with technology with, get a PC. Apples vs Oranges.

I think saying you want it to be more powerful is a fine opinion to have.
Personally I'm fine with it, so far the PS4 is definitely one of my favorite consoles I've ever owned.
 

Intrigue

Banned
I think saying you want it to be more powerful is a fine opinion to have.
Personally I'm fine with it, so far the PS4 is definitely one of my favorite consoles I've ever owned.

Sure, I want my car to be more powerful too, but I didnt buy that model, but lets bitch about that too.

Stupid argument imho.
 
vr is still a video game focused thing, though. 4K is a resolution. If you're talking about 4K movies or whatever, Ps4 definitely isn't pushing for that like sony pushed blu ray with Ps3

I know sony isn't pushing for for 4k because bluray has already gained traction. I'm aware 4k is just a resolution but I include it because I look at it like a natural evolution of bluray.

I don't really consider VR just gaming platform. To me it's more about experiences.
 

Heimbeck

Banned
Like things used to be?

I have been gaming for 30 years my friend, it is EXACTLY how things have been. Things are evolving sure, and I appreciated with MSFT did with the 360 for online connectivity, and was my go to console last gen since getting it day one...

But as far as graphical leaps, and just being a gaming machine, it is going as it has been.

Which my point still stands. It is the most powerful console out... so "it is a weak machine" is a "weak argument".

When MS revealed the 360 is was pretty impressive on a hardware level, it wasn't like that this gen with the console reveals.
I don't really consider it an argument for anything, but I think being somewhat disappointed it's not this really mindblowing thing is fine.
 
doesn't really say much about a console how much it sells though.. but good job i guess.

i'm still pretty disappointed Sony went for a cheaper, not so powerful console. also it's too noisy, controller has seriously pathetic battery life (constant annoyance), lacking features even the PS3 had etc. definitely not the best console ever in my experience. i hope they try harder next time.

I believe PS4 is a console of its time. It was created during a massive recession - a global financial crisis bringing whole economies to their knees. It was built to a price and coming in at 600 again simply wasn't an option.

Many acknowledged before any reveals that this generation's leap was unlikely to be as profound as those seen before.

It wasn't about not trying hard enough. It's about building what they could with the budget they had. Personally, considering those conditions, I think they did a damn fine job.
 

Heimbeck

Banned
Sure, I want my car to be more powerful too, but I didnt buy that model, but lets bitch about that too.

Stupid argument imho.

I can see your point, but I feel like being let down by it is fine.
Of course pc is an option for everyone so it's not really a big deal if you care that much about it.
 
doesn't really say much about a console how much it sells though.. but good job i guess.

i'm still pretty disappointed Sony went for a cheaper, not so powerful console. also it's too noisy, controller has seriously pathetic battery life (constant annoyance), lacking features even the PS3 had etc. definitely not the best console ever in my experience. i hope they try harder next time.
$599 hurt the PS3. Overpricing the PS4 would have been a mistake.
 
PS3 controller, which lasts a long time.

A DS3? Nah, at most 10 hours.

4-5? Mine never drains that fast. I get at least around 6 hours. Besides anyone who regularly plays game more than 5-6 hours at a time surely has more than one controller no?

I don't care if it drains in 3 or 2 hours. It charges with a simple cellphone cord, so I don't even have to connect it directly to the PS4. Not trying to be rude with the above statement, just that... is something so absurd to complain in the first place. It just baffles me that some people even prefer to have a controller with AA batteries.
 
But it is the most powerful console out. /confused
Ps4 is the most powerful console but doesn't the xbone have a few hardware advantages?
I know sony isn't pushing for for 4k because bluray has already gained traction. I'm aware 4k is just a resolution but I include it because I look at it like a natural evolution of bluray.

I don't really consider VR just gaming platform. To me it's more about experiences.
you're missing my point though that explained on the previous page; t's fine to think vr will be more than for gaming but again it is still supplementary, not complementary to the Ps4 like how DVD and blu ray were for Ps2/3 respectively.
 

JPLMD

Member
When MS revealed the 360 is was pretty impressive on a hardware level, it wasn't like that this gen with the console reveals.
I don't really consider it an argument for anything, but I think being somewhat disappointed it's not this really mindblowing thing is fine.

My PC at the time the 360 came out blew it out of the water. Nothing has really changed. Graphics look prettier but to say the PS4 has weak hardware compared to the PC? That's been the case since last generation.
 

Intrigue

Banned
Ps4 is the most powerful console but doesn't the xbone have a few hardware advantages?
you're missing my point though that explained on the previous page; t's fine to think vr will be more than for gaming but again it is still supplementary, not complementary to the Ps4 like how DVD and blu ray were for Ps2/3 respectively.

MSFT just need to unlock them, another gpu, more cpu's im sure im missing something.

MisterX can probably give a more precise list on how the xbox one will become more powerful than the ps4.
 

Heimbeck

Banned
My PC at the time the 360 came out blew it out of the water. Nothing has really changed. Graphics look prettier but to say the PS4 has weak hardware compared to the PC? That's been the case since last generation.

Well I remember thinking it was cool back then and I didn't feel that way this gen.
Although just to be clear that stuff really doesn't matter much to me.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
When MS revealed the 360 is was pretty impressive on a hardware level, it wasn't like that this gen with the console reveals.
I don't really consider it an argument for anything, but I think being somewhat disappointed it's not this really mindblowing thing is fine.

It was the usher in to the "HD" (720p) era of graphics for consoles to have PC like resolutions. It was a natural evolution since the consoles prior were flirting with progressive scan one way or another. Yes it was a nice leap, but no greater a leap than the first Playstation offering 3D graphics over sprites.

Maybe since I was a PC gamer, I was just excited I could hook my console up to my monitor and not worry about the non HDTV hook up in the living room at the time.

My PC at the time the 360 came out blew it out of the water. Nothing has really changed. Graphics look prettier but to say the PS4 has weak hardware compared to the PC? That's been the case since last generation.

Exactly, lol.

MSFT just need to unlock them, another gpu, more cpu's im sure im missing something.

MisterX can probably give a more precise list on how the xbox one will become more powerful than the ps4.

Netflix knows all with Polaris upgrade/unlock/secret sauce to be unmasked soon! Just ask MisterX.
 
Ps4 is the most powerful console but doesn't the xbone have a few hardware advantages?
you're missing my point though that explained on the previous page; t's fine to think vr will be more than for gaming but again it is still supplementary, not complementary to the Ps4 like how DVD and blu ray were for Ps2/3 respectively.
I don't think it really has any hardware advantages outside of a very slight increase in cpu clock.

PS4 has better RAM, better GPU, and apparently dedicated hardware for updates and installs(not positive about this)
 
MSFT just need to unlock them, another gpu, more cpu's im sure im missing something.

MisterX can probably give a more precise list on how the xbox one will become more powerful than the ps4.
i ain't talking about that secret sauce bullshit. i had this discussion with gaffers over a year ago. The xbone's cup is 1.75 and its gpu is 853 MHz, its got cloud power and dx12, both of which is still unclear to me what the full potential is.

Edit: sorry if the link is not direct. Skip to page 15, post 716
I don't think it really has any hardware advantages outside of a very slight increase in cpu clock.

PS4 has better RAM, better GPU, and apparently dedicated hardware for updates and installs(not positive about this)
Ps4 definitely has the edge on xbone in certain things, but I think the xbone has a few advantages on Ps4, too.
 

Heimbeck

Banned
It was the usher in to the "HD" (720p) era of graphics for consoles to have PC like resolutions. It was a natural evolution since the consoles prior were flirting with progressive scan one way or another. Yes it was a nice leap, but no greater a leap than the first Playstation offering 3D graphics over sprites.

Maybe since I was a PC gamer, I was just excited I could hook my console up to my monitor and not worry about the non HDTV hook up in the living room at the time.

Well I can only speak to my own personal level of wowness, maybe I'm just old and grumpy now.
 

Intrigue

Banned
i ain't talking about that secret sauce bullshit. i had this discussion with gaffers over a year ago. The xbone's cup is 1.75 and its gpu is 853 MHz, its got cloud power and dx12, both of which is still unclear to me what the full potential is.Ps4 definitely has the edge on xbone in certain things, but I think the xbone has a few advantages on Ps4, too.

Gaming wise, name a few?

Because by looking at current games, majority of them look/run better on PS4.
 
Gaming wise, name a few?

Because by looking at current games, majority of them look/run better on PS4.
Can't think of any off the top of my head, sorry. I'm not disagreeing with you there though as it's clear most multiplats look better on Ps4 and a lot of Ps4 exclusives arguably look better than xbone exclusives too, at a cost.
 
i ain't talking about that secret sauce bullshit. i had this discussion with gaffers over a year ago. The xbone's cup is 1.75 and its gpu is 853 MHz, its got cloud power and dx12, both of which is still unclear to me what the full potential is.

Edit: sorry if the link is not direct. Skip to page 15, post 716Ps4 definitely has the edge on xbone in certain things, but I think the xbone has a few advantages on Ps4, too.

Not really, everyone corrected you in that thread too.
It's pretty cut and dry at this point.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
PC gaming always been ahead of consoles. Nothing ever changed that atleast not since I started with both which was back around ~1985

Only era that was a little stagnant on the PC front was the beginning of the first Playstation (then pulled ahead mid to end), and the first few years into the Playstation 2 (then pulled ahead and did not look back since unified shader tech).
 
i ain't talking about that secret sauce bullshit. i had this discussion with gaffers over a year ago. The xbone's cup is 1.75 and its gpu is 853 MHz, its got cloud power and dx12, both of which is still unclear to me what the full potential is.

Edit: sorry if the link is not direct. Skip to page 15, post 716Ps4 definitely has the edge on xbone in certain things, but I think the xbone has a few advantages on Ps4, too.
I honestly can't agree that it does. It seems pretty cut and dry at this point. Any theoretical advantage the Xbone may have had seems to be disproven in actual application.
 

pezzie

Member
Doesn't mean he can't be disappointed by it.

Why so much hostility for someone just saying some of the complaints they have?

Cracking jokes is not hostility. Nowhere did I make any personal attacks to the person.

Of course people can be disappointed, the point I was making with my crack was that if the person is disappointed by lower priced mid range hardware on consoles today, they will likely be disappointed from here on out. I don't think any console manufacturer is going to go the route of higher priced higher specced consoles anymore. If you want to go that route, best get into the PC ecosystem.
 
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