Legit 4K gaming on a current-gen APU is kinda a ridiculous assertion, no?
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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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Legit 4K gaming on a current-gen APU is kinda a ridiculous assertion, no?
Papacheeks
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I'll wait and see what people like Naughty Dog developers, and such have to say about this. SAME with Indie developers.
If they sing nothing but praises then I'll eat crow.
If they sing nothing but praises then I'll eat crow.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Man, you are so right it's obnoxious how wrong I am.
Jesus.
I had in my head the 32x and CD examples that completely borked my perception of history for all the other consoles.
Mushroom021
Member
You really don't think journey or games of similar pedigree wouldn't be possible?
nelsonroyale
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I don't believe it!
AMD/Sony about to reveal that Alien tech.
Hypereides
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Sounds kind of anti-consumer. Hypothetically, it would push the consumer to buy new iterations in order to play the newest games, that, potentially, are built and optimized for the stronger hardware in mind.
Seems like they want to do something similiar to Apple's Iphone revisions.
Seems like they want to do something similiar to Apple's Iphone revisions.
Glorified G
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Not only that but releasing this year also? Yeah, I doubt that but we'll see.
Cow Goes Moo
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oh i know, i know
SDCowboy
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What else has happened?
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Ugh.
Day never.
Day never.
ethomaz
Banned
What happened?
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Alright, shit went down around page 45, then I updated my phone and drove home.
What did I miss?
What did I miss?
OK so let me get this straight:
1. This is a major upgrade in performance
2. This is launching Q4' 2016
3. This will have backwards and forward compatibility.
4. This will render PS4 quality games 4K.
Can you explain what sort of tech is under the hood because it makes absolutely no sense that thing can do 4K 30 with modern AAA Games when GPU's at twice and three times the thermal power of the ENTIRE PS4 can't seem to do that.
Omnistalgic
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ahahahahahahahahaha....ahah
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this ish is crazy...
What is Sony releasing??! I want to know Soooooo bad.
Insider battles!
SolidSnakex
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Hogan sued them over posting a sex tape with him and he won. 115m is just the beginning of what they're going to have to pay.
Aceofspades
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I was responding to his post that imply that PS4.5 would play games at 4k.
Current PS4 can play some games at 4k if devs chose to. So that is not what I responded to.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Releasing a new phone on a regular basis is in a completely different ballpark to a new console. If we are expected to trade in our consoles on a semi-regular basis there are other considerations such as savegames, hdd data, peripherals, etc
Moving to a new phone these days is a fairly seamless process.
The big question here is will I be able to transfer my P.T. to the PS4.5's HDD ?
It all revolves around pt lol.
All your saves should be in the cloud and accessories should work or there's no point.
I hope they do it
ArchedThunder
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Why would they be? Same system but with better specs, if they want to they can pretty up their games for the upgraded hardware or just not and it will still benefit frame rate wise. Upgrades every 4 to 5 years instead of generational resets every 5-7 is actually what devs want.
Crimsonclaw111
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Somebody explain who Zoetis is.
travisbickle
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This isn't happening. It's a "Sony too" rumour.
Neuromancer
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Surely if this is true we would have developers on GAF weighing in right? Or did I miss it?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=164189278#post164189278
Yea, I want answers to all these as well.
Because none of this adding up right now, lol
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Anti-consumer? You want to hold back advances in technology for others because you want to feel good about your purchase?
Mushroom021
Member
Where did he say ps4 quality games? Could be 4k for a handful of indies and remasters. Ps3 boasted 1080p and only a handful of games actually did it.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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I think we will see a lot more 4K content by 2017. The movies in production right now or released as of Star Wars are ready for the 4K market to take off. There maybe 25 or so 4K blu-ray movies in the market right now, but that number will change and will be in hundreds, just like Avatar changed the number for 3D movies. However, unlike 3D, 4K has real benefits and is not a gimmick. Movies are already shot close to 4K, so there is nothing extra that has to be done there to bring it to mass market. Right now the MSRP of 4K and 3D blu-ray movies is in the same $29.99 range (with regular blu-rays in the $24.99 range), so it's easier for the studio to justify the price.
Just as an idea, in the wedding industry, I can already produce native 4K wedding films if necessary. The content is already there. The demand will be generated when your home hardware next year is all 4K and beyond. The good thing it'll do is make 1080p TVs dirt cheap. Though since you're talking about Cable/Satellite market, know that they've always been the last one to adopt any technological advancement, always. They were the last to provide 720p, and the last to provide 1080p. They will be the last to provide 4K. And yet, they're already announcing 4KTV content for the mass market for select channels (e.g. Rogers 4K service: http://www.rogers.com/consumer/tv/4k).
Also, you're right. It makes sense to finish this generation. However, VR changed this generation and is forcing it to jump ahead. Microsoft making XBO a Windows platform and treating it as an upgrading hardware is forcing Sony to jump ahead. PC already forcing folks to upgrade their hardware for VR is making Sony to jump ahead. The push of 4K movies and the finalization of HDMI specs for 4K not meeting that of current consoles is doing the same. Sony is an electronics company, and they will never have a gimped hardware running their superior products without them complimenting each other. PS4K will compliment 4KTVs that your future TV buyers will get. This generation was always destined to be shorter, but there's no way to cut it short without losing backwards compatibility or other shenanigans. Refreshing the hardware is a much smarter gamble.
You're also right that when PS5 releases (if it does), some folks maybe hesitant and say "I just bought a PS4K!" and won't make the jump until PS5K (lol) is released. Remember though, this will be a 4 year wait from PS4 to PS4K. I'm sure the games won't stop developing for PS4 until two or so years down the line to PS5's release.
Valiantttt
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I will laugh if they use upscaling to upscale 1080p to 4K because that will be so ugly. There is a reason why upscaling generally isn't used because it looks bad(else everyone would be doing it).
Son Of Sparda
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I think you are overestimating the number of people who would buy new console just because they are new. I don't think 30 million people bought PS4 because they couldn't resist buying it.
The majority bought it cause to them it was the superior 8th generation console (I'm talking about 8th gen vs 7th gen, not X1 vs PS4), shinier graphics, better performances, more games, etc. And IMO, a very big part of that was the fact that it would last them for the next 6-7 years to come. The device that they just bought will be the superior gaming device for the next 6-7 years. That's a very strong mindset that compels people to buy consoles shortly after their release.
But after PS4.5 that factor will be gone for PS5 and I think that will be a big deal.
People like to know that they are getting the superior version of the stuff that they are buying and when PS5 comes around, many will know that in a few (short) years that thing will be inferior, and that can and will affect their decision to buy it or just wait for the superior version.
I seriously could not imagine the current generation hardware lasting for another 3 or 4 years. PC is progressing extremely fast at this rate and the current consoles are serviceable, but dated.
On top of the performance upgrades, PS4 needs a 5ghz AC wifi adapter. Maybe they could use this opportunity to produce controllers with better build quality and batteries. Add more usb ports to the core system. These upgrades are needed if they want this generation to persist for the length of the last one before a full iteration is needed.
On top of the performance upgrades, PS4 needs a 5ghz AC wifi adapter. Maybe they could use this opportunity to produce controllers with better build quality and batteries. Add more usb ports to the core system. These upgrades are needed if they want this generation to persist for the length of the last one before a full iteration is needed.
Nah, because it's mostly devs who are asking for this because the current generational cycle has been bad for them and some publishers. Hence why we've seen so many cross-gen games more than any other, because there's still a very large userbase on previous generation systems.
I mean, even Konami, Konami, had slides wanting to see this with consoles because traditional console cycles are detrimental now to the health of the industry with rapid tech evolution, and everything being thrown out including the userbase generation to generation.
Enter the Dragon Punch
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It absolutely is.
What are this posters credentials besides saying TLG was at E3 2016?
The entire thing feels like a dude who got an easy guess on the nose trolling the fuck out of people.
Hopefully that fact that Thuway has shown up will get this bullshit out of here.
Chobel
Member
This keeps getting better and better.
Omnistalgic
Member
Maybe hes saying it will be a significant upgrade, but not in the performance areas we are assuming?
Maybe this is purely for better VR titles? Or is the way console development will be going forward. Every 3 years a refresh comes, and this will be the new norm? I dunno what the fook son.
If this is true, i hope its something that can be added to or used with an existing PS4.
Do enough of the general public even own 4K tvs for Sony justifying doing something like this now ?. If Sony actually go through with this, its got to be for VR mainly, with maybe the 4K thing being more of a smoke screen instead of saying something like, "the PS4 is a pos for better VR experiences going forward, we badly need to upgrade" Lots of PSVR preorders might get canceled if Sony showed doubt in the PS4s power for VR. Ofcourse this is just speculation.
Do enough of the general public even own 4K tvs for Sony justifying doing something like this now ?. If Sony actually go through with this, its got to be for VR mainly, with maybe the 4K thing being more of a smoke screen instead of saying something like, "the PS4 is a pos for better VR experiences going forward, we badly need to upgrade" Lots of PSVR preorders might get canceled if Sony showed doubt in the PS4s power for VR. Ofcourse this is just speculation.
Acquiescence
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Basically said that TLG would be at E3 before anyone else did. Quickly got verified by a mod and... yeah.
He's fairly legit, although by the same token he said that Sony's PGW show would outstrip their E3, which turned out to be total bollocks.
And yet most here would say Uncharted 4 looks better than any PC game..So i'm not so sure.
Tainted
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Leaked the Last Guardian being at last E3 and because of that is now known to GAF as a Sony insider who knows all
Fuckkkk
Cow Goes Moo
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you have to be sitting 50 inches away from a screen to notice upscaling
Giriath_89
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If he's right and this is some expensive-as-hell premium PS4 I am more than happy with my peasant release model.