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Nikkei: Nintendo ceasing Wii U production at the end of the year

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Banned
Sorry, Wii U owners holding out hope for support. If only you had never been able to afford one, like me

If Zelda had come out i would've robbed a bank for one
 

NimbusD

Member
Just because they're stopping production doesn't mean that they'll be hard to get either. Im sure they've been sitting on warehouses full of these guys.
 

Malus

Member
Wii u owners (launch especially) who are going to buy the new conse at launch are nuts. Nintendo would have to have a crazy promotion where I can have all my virtual console library readily available for free and some other stuff like digital download promotion or whatever. Otherwise I'll wait this time. Still have quite a few games on Wii u I haven't completed.

Day 1 even if to just play Zelda at 1fps better than Wii U and show everybody my new oval controller.
 

Welfare

Member
So what's that, 3-4 years of wii u support. So much confidence in your products Nintendo.

Who is going to support a system that could only sell ~12m units in 3 years? Microsoft stopped supporting the Xbox after 4 years and later came out with the 360 which was a huge success.

Nintendo should not hold themselves back from abandoning a sinking ship and getting a brand new better one.
 

MK_768

Member
You do realize the the the console manufacturing halting doesn't stop game development right? They are two different things.

Nintendo is not going to simply scrap Zelda U which has been in development for few years because no more Wii U consoles are being made.

No he doesn't realize this lol.
 

OmegaDL50

Member
Uhhh...Neo Geo software lasted for 14 years.

Hardware Production ended in 1997, while the console was introduced in 1990, still 7 years for the Neo Geo production definitely excludes it from having a short production run.

And like you said it's incredible software support that lasted til 2004.
 

Kastrioti

Persecution Complex
Such an underrated console, it's a shame Nintendo couldn't properly advertise it to consumers. I really lost touch with Nintendo consoles during the Wii reign because I disagreed with the overall philosophy of the console despite its success.

Bring on the NX. I have no doubt Nintendo will be successful with the NX my main concern as a gamer and lifelong Nintendo fan is that they completely abandon a classic controller alternative.
 

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Banned
You do realize the the the console manufacturing halting doesn't stop game development right? They are two different things.

Nintendo is not going to simply scrap Zelda U which has been in development for few years because no more Wii U consoles are being made.

Sure, but the Wii U version is officially an afterthought now and we all know it.
 

javac

Member
Got the Wii U day one, will do the same for the NX too. Could be a shoe, could be a toaster for all we know, I don't care just give me it.
 

Pancake Mix

Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Sure, but the Wii U version is officially an afterthought now and we all know it.

Pretty much guaranteed that it's been developed to run on the Wii U, and the Wii U first. They wouldn't throw out everything they had on Wii U specs for new NX assets, environments, etc. and release it at launch. Just like how Twilight Princess could have had better assets and such if it had been developed from the ground up on Wii, rather than GameCube and being quickly ported to the Wii.
 

User1608

Banned
After two years this was the inevitable result I feel. It didn't set the world on fire but as with every other Nintendo console, I had a blast with it and its games. I understand why it failed, but that doesn't mean I can't love it, because I do. So many fun games and memories.
 

Not

Banned
Pretty much guaranteed that it's been developed to run on the Wii U, and the Wii U first. They wouldn't throw out everything they had on Wii U specs for new NX assets, environments, etc. and release it at launch. Just like how Twilight Princess could have had better assets and such if it had been developed from the ground up on Wii, rather than GameCube and being quickly ported to the Wii.

Yeah, TBH I'm bummed this happened to ANOTHER Zelda game, as it means we're not getting anything with PS4+ assets for like another six years. Just think: The first Zelda game with 2005-level hardware is coming out in 2016.
 

linkboy

Member
Umm.... yeah? Nintendo has competent hardware and software developers. They could definitely come up with a decent BC solution if they wanted to. It could literally be as simple as including the Wii U CPU as a compatibility chip.

Which will do nothing but drive up the cost of the console.

Not to mention having to deal with the Gamepad, and whether or not someone has one.

Nintendo needs to cut the GC/Wii/Wii U line off. They've basically been working on that architecture since the late 90's when they first developed the GC.

Nintendo needs a console that's in the same ballpark as the other two, but isn't expensive. They need to develop aaxhine that developers can easily port games to (multi-console games are what drives the industry and Nintendo's been missing that boat since the Wii launched.
 
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I think that only VB was treaten worst even by nintendo
 

trixx

Member
Doubt it. The NX is a fresh start. Which, unfortunately, means new VC and digital library. And that fucking sucks, but like the switch from PS3 to PS4, it's necessary because of the architecture switch.

Would be nice if they honored those digital purchases tho.
Would be so nice, but I doubt it as well. They have they have a track record of our digital purchases, but I doubt it as well. At least it would influence my thoughts on the new console since I have quite a number of virtual console titles.
 

ffdgh

Member
Killing the wii u this year? Knew it was coming but not this soon lol. Hope for their sake they know what they're doing with the NX.
 
So those that bought a Wii U, are you happy with what you got? Are you happy with the 4 year production cycle of the console?

Speaking as someone who got a Wii U last year, I'm happy with the games I've got, but at the same time I think the production cycle could had been longer if the first-party output was better.

I mean we've gotten some legitimately great games, 3D World and Tropical Freeze are genuinely some of my favorite games, and I've had a blast with other titles (Smash Bros, Splatoon, Mario Kart 8). And I'm still hoping to get some more titles on top of that in the future (Mario Maker). But at the same time I feel support could had been better. Some franchises have yet to appear at all (and from the looks of things, won't even make it), and some that did appear r were absolute jokes (Mario Tennis, Animal Crossing) or look like they were/are heading that way (Star Fox Zero). Like some studios within Nintendo genuinely gave it a good shot, while others just did a half-hearted effort or they just didn't care.

It's kinda disappointing, I kinda feel Wii U with all of its bottlenecks could have had a better chance at reception and sales if everyone at Nintendo gave it a legit shot despite the console's own bottlenecks, like it could had been Nintendo equivalent to Sega's Dreamcast in terms of diverse quality games. Especially so since I think the GamePad in itself is actually a bit better than what most its given credit for. If not for the execution itself definitely its concept, I'm kinda hoping a controller with a screen built-in is followed on with the NX.

At the same time though I wouldn't blame Nintendo for axing nearly all ties with the Wii U completely and start from a more "traditional" approach with the NX. Or I wish I could say that though, I genuinely feel Nintendo hasn't learned any of its mistakes with the Wii U and will incorporate many of them with the NX. The radio silence we've had about it since it was mentioned certainly isn't helping at all on that front. It's a rather bleak outlook on things, but there you go.
 
Game Boy Color got 2 years. GBA got 3. SNES was intended to be replaced after 4.

I think people just forgot how long the Wii U has actually been out.

Well, you're actually wrong about all those systems.

GBA certainly wasn't discontinued in 2004, and titles were still being released up to 2007. GBA sales were still impressive in the NPD reports for that year.

DS was initially meant to be just a third pillar platform, but it became a de facto successor over time.

Similar facts apply to SNES and GBC.

Those systems didn't instantly die just because a new platform was released. The Wii U does not compare favorably to those systems at all.
 

crinale

Member
I now think that Nintendo had already saw the WiiU not recovering like 2-3 years ago and decided to discontinue, and told major third parties that too especially Japanese ones.
 

FyreWulff

Member
DS was initially meant to be just a third pillar platform, but it became a de facto successor over time.

The DS was always intended to succeed the GBA; the third pillar was PR bullshit intended to downplay if the DS failed against the PSP. The GBA slot on the DS was the backup plan - because then at least they could sell GBA software to DS owners if the DS tanked.

They were actually banking on and revealed the GBA Micro on the same level as the DS. "Now it's 2 to 1!". The GBA Micro bombed and is largely forgotten in the public's eyes.
 

ArtHands

Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
NX must be backward compatible, right? Super Mario Maker needs to keep going.

erm no. They will need a touch screen gamepad for that too happen.

Unless you are banking on the handheld NX to be as big as the gamepad, then lol.
 
Could they just make the Wii U Gamepad compatible for the NX console? I don't see Nintendo doing another console with a controller that has a screen. Maybe it could have a smaller screen to make the controller smaller overall though.
 

BeauRoger

Unconfirmed Member
So those that bought a Wii U, are you happy with what you got? Are you happy with the 4 year production cycle of the console?

By far the worst console I ever owned, but luckily i got it for cheap second hand. Mainly bought it for Smash, Zelda and to a lesser extent Mario Kart. Didnt expect that much more because I know how nintendo does things nowadays, but even going by those lowered expectations, the Wii U is a dissapointment.
 

pooh

Member
What if the Wii U is actually part of the NX family of systems? This is all just a theory, but some rumors I've seen suggest that NX isn't a specific console, but rather a baseline OS that runs on different form factors, like iOS or Android. If that's the case, it's possible that NX could run on the Wii U as well.

Just something I've been thinking about.
 
What if the Wii U is actually part of the NX family of systems? This is all just a theory, but some rumors I've seen suggest that NX isn't a specific console, but rather a baseline OS that runs on different form factors, like iOS or Android. If that's the case, it's possible that NX could run on the Wii U as well.

Just something I've been thinking about.

Why would they halt production of a system that would be part of the ecosystem?
 

Chairman Yang

if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
So those that bought a Wii U, are you happy with what you got? Are you happy with the 4 year production cycle of the console?
I'm extremely happy with the system and am totally fine with the amount of high-quality exclusives it has.

All that said, I bought into the system only a year and a half ago, and knew up front it would be a Nintendo first-party-only console with a limited lifespan of support. I'm primarily a PC gamer and the Wii U was a great accompaniment to that. If the Wii U was my primary platform, by contrast, I would've been pissed.
 
It wasn't the greatest system but for the time I had it, I enjoyed it. It had some pretty good games that I got a lot of playtime out of but not as good as the library of the other systems.
 

hatchx

Banned
Did anyone really think the WiiU was going to live into 2017?

If anything this is all a good sign. It means NX is coming this year, and the WiiU has had the best final year of any Nintendo console since the N64.
 

Kouriozan

Member
Sorry, Wii U owners holding out hope for support. If only you had never been able to afford one, like me

If Zelda had come out i would've robbed a bank for one
We knew Wii U support was dead when Iwata made the panic Nintendo Direct less than 2 months after its launch.
 
The general public wants to play games where you shoot and/or slice dudes and that's not what Nintendo offers, basically.

Nintendo is stuck in this bad place where what they make doesn't sell and to make products that sell involves changing what makes Nintendo unique.

Well, that or F2P mobile games. More the latter given the kids/family/casual leaning of their key demographics, but I have no doubt that they're also losing older fans to the more diverse software lineups on PS4/XB1/PC.
 

Kazooie

Banned
If Zelda U is ported to the NX, the Wii U won't have had a new and original Zelda game. No 3D Mario game either, unless you count Super Mario 3D World.

If you bought a PS4 on day one you knew what was coming. Eventually you would get Uncharted 4, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo 7 and The Last Guardian.

If you bought an Xbox One you knew Halo 5, Forza and Gears of War were coming.

I can't believe that a massive technology company like Nintendo can fail to market a console efficiently. It's been scatter brained since day one and after 4 years I still haven't seen a single TV advert for the console in the UK.
 

AniHawk

Member
So those that bought a Wii U, are you happy with what you got? Are you happy with the 4 year production cycle of the console?

i don't buy any platform these days without being able to be happy with my purchase when i buy it. i got the wii u and five games in september 2013. i was fine with those and would have only been fine with those. same with getting the vita for danganronpa, tearaway, and ys memories of celcetta. fortunately, both platforms had much more i was interested in.
 

notaskwid

Member
Why would Nintendo continue to make games for the WiiU when they will have a new console to sell and are stoping prodution of the old one? Isn't the main goal of first party software to drive hardware adoption?
Zelda U might still be released on the Wii U, but thats about it as far as new first party games for the Wii U go, and it's not like third parties have any reason to continue to develop for it, so maybe some indie ports or kids multiplatform games will still come, but not much more (if anything)
 
Pretty much guaranteed that it's been developed to run on the Wii U, and the Wii U first. They wouldn't throw out everything they had on Wii U specs for new NX assets, environments, etc. and release it at launch. Just like how Twilight Princess could have had better assets and such if it had been developed from the ground up on Wii, rather than GameCube and being quickly ported to the Wii.
I bet PLENTY money its being downported on Wii U now. The official released screens are in 1080 P. Unless they got that thang on Wii U at 1080P then no. Something more powerful than Wii U is what its being run on.
 

Xiao Hu

Member
If Zelda U is ported to the NX, the Wii U won't have had a new and original Zelda game. No 3D Mario game either, unless you count Super Mario 3D World.

If you bought a PS4 on day one you knew what was coming. Eventually you would get Uncharted 4, The Last of Us 2, Gran Turismo 7 and The Last Guardian.

If you bought an Xbox One you knew Halo 5, Forza and Gears of War were coming.

I can't believe that a massive technology company like Nintendo can fail to market a console efficiently. It's been scatter brained since day one and after 4 years I still haven't seen a single TV advert for the console in the UK.

This misconception and disability to understand the most basics of modern marketing seems to be a problem endemic to a lot Japanese companies. That bubble they have created for themselves makes them disconnected from the market, and now they're reaping what they sow.
 
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