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Ratchet & Clank reviews

J_Viper

Member
What's this about side quests? I don't remember the OG Ratchet 1 having sidequests.

If this is really five hours long I'm going to return this when it arrives. Insomniac is an excellent dev, but that's way too short, even for $40.
 

Kurumi

Member
What's this about side quests? I don't remember the OG Ratchet 1 having sidequests.

If this is really five hours long I'm going to return this when it arrives. Insomniac is an excellent dev, but that's way too short, even for $40.

I...I can't even....
 

Zach

Member
I'm okay with a smaller game. Looks beautiful and fun to play, and I'm sure my son will play through it multiple times. I think we know what to expect, and we're super excited. Whether it's a 70 or 90 on Metacritic really means nothing to us. Unless the game is broken, we are aaalllll over it.
 

reKon

Banned
If this game offer a hard mode at the start, I suggest that people just opt for that. It made the game so much better for ACiT because I really had to keep my dodging up to pay and utilize nearly all weapons and ammo when things got hectic.
 
I understand this stance well enough, the first game has lot of design decisions that are very different to how things were handled in the later games (weapons weren't as important to the game, no strafing meant that game couldn't focus as much in shooting mechanics).

It's a double edged sword. In the other hand the later games brought lot of great mechanics that made the games simply more fun to play, strafin being the most critical one. On the other hand, the games also became much more shooting focused, especially starting with Up Your Arsenal. If someone dislikes that approach, that's fine to me.

I myself like the shooting gameplay lot, but I do sometimes miss the bit different aspects of the series, that first game, and to somewhat similar degree GC, still had. But I do think that many of the aspects in the original game have aged badly as well.

I'd say both Going Commando and A Crack in Time achieved an excellent balance between the shooting and the various other aspects. A Crack in time had tons of Clank puzzle solving goodness, and a lot of the optional Moons were platforming and puzzle focused. And GC had all of it's various side activities like racing, and cool puzzle elements with the freeze/heat gadget and that magnet gun thing. UYA and TOD were definitely shooty, but even they are a million times more varied than your average shooter.
 

Lucreto

Member
It's only 5 hours if you rush through the game on normal which everyone who are a fan of the series knows you don't do that.

Firstly you complete the main area, then you go the second path or vice-versa. Then you find the gold bolts and do the skill points in the levels. After then you move to the next planet.

You also have the Arena battles, weapon upgrading, brain collecting, hoverboard racing, card collecting, Clank segments and finally doing all again in Challenge mode.

That is more than 5 hours of content there and I say closer to 15 hours or 20 if you go for the platinum.

Nexus was a prologue to the future series and it was next meant to be a full AAA release compared to this title.
 
So, without spilling the beans, does it look like a return to form for R&C?

I really enjoyed my time with the game. In terms of style and humor, I think it's faithfull to the mainline R&C titles.

What's this about side quests? I don't remember the OG Ratchet 1 having sidequests.

In some planets, there are optional stuff to do and Gold Bolts to collect (which unlocks things). Also, RYNO.

(I'm being vague on purpose because I'm talking about this new R&C.)
 

Zach

Member
It's only 5 hours if you rush through the game on normal which everyone who are a fan of the series knows you don't do that.

Firstly you complete the main area, then you go the second path or vice-versa. Then you find the gold bolts and do the skill points in the levels. After then you move to the next planet.

You also have the Arena battles, weapon upgrading, brain collecting, hoverboard racing, card collecting, Clank segments and finally doing all again in Challenge mode.

That is more than 5 hours of content there and I say closer to 15 hours or 20 if you go for the platinum.

Nexus was a prologue to the future series and it was next meant to be a full AAA release compared to this title.
Yeah, my son always maxes out all of the weapons, and I'm guessing that still takes a long while to do.
 
I really enjoyed my time with the game. In terms of style and humor, I think it's faithfull to the mainline R&C titles.



In some planets, there are optional stuff to do and Gold Bolts to collect (which unlocks things). Also, RYNO.

(I'm being vague on purpose because I'm talking about this new R&C.)
Sounds good!
 
I do think the some of the expectations at how short it'll be in comparison to other R&C games is a bit overblown. I just hope this game does well enough so that Sony is encouraged to bump up the resources and budget for the next one!
 

SerTapTap

Member
No surprises, I'm expecting 8s and 9s with some 7s from people who don't like colorful platformers

People expecting a game as good as the first R&C lmao. You'll get a glorified third person shooter like the 8 games that came after it and you'll be lucky if they kept any platforming/melee combat section.

I don't know how could some people be excited for this when the only game that wasn't a 90% "rawwwwr shoot everything explosions particles badasss waves of enemies everywheree" shooter was the first one, and this seems to fix that mistake by making it also another shooter.

This post would have made a lot more sense if the majority of the following games weren't highly reviewed and well received
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
It's only 5 hours if you rush through the game on normal which everyone who are a fan of the series knows you don't do that.

Firstly you complete the main area, then you go the second path or vice-versa. Then you find the gold bolts and do the skill points in the levels. After then you move to the next planet.

You also have the Arena battles, weapon upgrading, brain collecting, hoverboard racing, card collecting, Clank segments and finally doing all again in Challenge mode.

That is more than 5 hours of content there and I say closer to 15 hours or 20 if you go for the platinum.

Nexus was a prologue to the future series and it was next meant to be a full AAA release compared to this title.

15 hours to plat? That's far less than ACiT. This is all starting to sound underwhelming. Again I'll wait and see but sounds far closer to nexus, which also took about 15 hours to plat.
 
15 hours to plat? That's far less than ACiT. This is all starting to sound underwhelming. Again I'll wait and see but sounds far closer to nexus, which also took about 15 hours to plat.
It seems you already have your mind made up. There is no need to wait and see.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
It seems you already have your mind made up. There is no need to wait and see.

Oh bs I have the game pre ordered and paid off, I don't know why people jump to these accusations. If the game on average is finished in 5-7 hours that will be a big disappointment and I will wait just like I did with nexus.

Nexus was a damn good time but left me wanting more when I platinumed it in 2 days.
 

Lucreto

Member
15 hours to plat? That's far less than ACiT. This is all starting to sound underwhelming. Again I'll wait and see but sounds far closer to nexus, which also took about 15 hours to plat.

I platinumed A Crack in Time in at about 20 hours just by going through my Trophies list but it could be longer since it was back in 2010.

Nexus was a boiled down to basics game, it had all the components on a normal Ratchet game but tied up loose ends. It had like 3 or 4 worlds compared to the 11 in this game.
 
Oh bs I have the game pre ordered and paid off, I don't know why people jump to these accusations. If the game on average is finished in 5-7 hours that will be a big disappointment and I will wait just like I did with nexus.

Nexus was a damn good time but left me wanting more when I platinumed it in 2 days.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it. You just seem to already be leaning one way. Just wait.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it. You just seem to already be leaning one way. Just wait.

No you insinuated I had made up my mind and was shit posting.

5 hours would be a problem if that's the average. This same argument comes up anytime somebody takes issue with game length "oh well collectibles, oh well yeah speed runs, etc etc". Ultimately what I'm saying if you take both games and go through at average pace campaign only, one is 10-12 the other is 5-7 I wouldnt be able to help feeling underwhelmed, especially since I've been a fan of this series since day 1.
 
No you insinuated I had made up my mind and was shit posting.

5 hours would be a problem if that's the average. This same argument comes up anytime somebody takes issue with game length "oh well collectibles, oh well yeah speed runs, etc etc". Ultimately what I'm saying if you take both games and go through at average pace campaign only, one is 10-12 the other is 5-7 I wouldnt be able to help feeling underwhelmed, especially since I've been a fan of this series since day 1.
I never said anything about "shit posting".

Okay.
 

msdstc

Incredibly Naive
I never said anything about "shit posting".

Okay.

Agreed. That being said your post had heavy implications with it, especially when you say " no need to wait and see". There is a need, if the game is closer to 5 hours on average I will cancel my preorder and wait for a discounted version on black Friday or some deal.
 

Boke1879

Member
You can't what? Nothing surprising about someone not wanting to pay full price for a brief game if that's what you mean.

It's not even full price though. And how about we play it for ourselves. People rushing through the main story in this sort of game will no doubt complete it in a shorter time. Hell aren't these 3rd person shooter/adventure games clocking in at 6-8 hours these days anyway on medium difficulty?

If some of you are concerned with length just wait to buy it. The game should be even cheaper than it is now in a few months anyway.
 
It's not like its a big release or released during a drought. If the game truly is on average 5-7 hours, waiting really isn't a big concern. Given its $40 price tag, its price during sales would be even better.

Best wishes.
 

Burbeting

Banned
15 hours to plat? That's far less than ACiT. This is all starting to sound underwhelming. Again I'll wait and see but sounds far closer to nexus, which also took about 15 hours to plat.

Honestly, ACIT was very short game at least to me. I finished it in less than eight hours the first time, and that was with collecting all the zoni. It's why I hope this one has length, since I think the last really meaty main story R&C Game was TOD, and that was almost nine years ago now.

(I do think ACIT was a great game, though).
 
5-7 hours....but it is $40.

Hmmm...


Ugh, why is Amazon being so ass?

It's giving me Thursday shipping for both DS3 and R&C.

That's some bullshit.

Are you part of the Prime master race? If not, your kind isn't wanted there, I'm afraid.

Roll with me this Tuesday to pick up DS3 at Gamestop. There's a Panera Bread across the street and it's pretty good
 

sackninja

Member
That's good GAF ignore the developer and other person who said the game is ten hours oif you play as you normally would in a ratchet and Clank game (standard length for these games) and just focus on the one guy who said five hours while rushing through on normal...
 

Boke1879

Member
That's good GAF ignore the developer and other person who said the game is ten hours oif you play as you normally would in a ratchet and Clank game (standard length for these games) and just focus on the one guy who said five hours while rushing through on normal...

It'll just be brushed off as the developer doing damage control and artificially lengthening the game.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
That's good GAF ignore the developer and other person who said the game is ten hours oif you play as you normally would in a ratchet and Clank game (standard length for these games) and just focus on the one guy who said five hours while rushing through on normal...

But, but, developers are not to be trusted, and your average poster you know just as less about is though, because it fits the framework in one's brain for a confirmation bias!

;)
 
very disappointed in the cut planets.

Oh well, doesn't matter to me I have the original and collection. Graphics don't matter to me at all. I still find the originals charming
 

Massa

Member
No you insinuated I had made up my mind and was shit posting.

5 hours would be a problem if that's the average. This same argument comes up anytime somebody takes issue with game length "oh well collectibles, oh well yeah speed runs, etc etc". Ultimately what I'm saying if you take both games and go through at average pace campaign only, one is 10-12 the other is 5-7 I wouldnt be able to help feeling underwhelmed, especially since I've been a fan of this series since day 1.

How does one person admittedly rushing through the game and skipping content become an "average" time? You're skipping over every other comment about its content too.
 

Shin-chan

Member
Ugh, why is Amazon being so ass?

It's giving me Thursday shipping for both DS3 and R&C.

That's some bullshit.
In the UK Amazon are one of the worst places to pre order from. Most online retailers will deliver a day or two early but Amazon are either on time or late. On the other hand, they are consistent here (unlike lately with .com).

I guess in the States you don't have the same alternatives we do.
 

Servbot24

Banned
Good thing its not full price then.

It's not the full price of a completely different item, sure. $40 is still significant to plenty of people, and may not be worth it for 5-10 hours of play. Nothing wrong with buyers being discerning about the value they're getting for their money.
 

Kurumi

Member
You can't what? Nothing surprising about someone not wanting to pay full price for a brief game if that's what you mean.

I don't care about that. It's the fact that he said that he'd just return the game when it arrives is what boggles my mind. I mean from what he said it sounds like he already paid off the game. I understand you're worried about game length. But not giving the game a chance at all especially if you like the series and the devs is just wow. That's just my opinion though.
 

Massa

Member
It's not the full price of a completely different item, sure. $40 is still significant to plenty of people, and may not be worth it for 5-1- hours of play. Nothing wrong with buyers being discerning about the value they're getting for their money.

It's not a 5 hour game ffs. People aren't being discerning, they're being stupid.
 
It's not the full price of a completely different item, sure. $40 is still significant to plenty of people, and may not be worth it for 5-1- hours of play. Nothing wrong with buyers being discerning about the value they're getting for their money.
Of course.

I don't think there is a need to take one comment and run with it either. We simply don't know what the length is like.
 
In the UK Amazon are one of the worst places to pre order from. Most online retailers will deliver a day or two early but Amazon are either on time or late. On the other hand, they are consistent here (unlike lately with .com).

I guess in the States you don't have the same alternatives we do.

Amazon has the 20% off. My other alternative is BB for 20% off but I won't have a car to pick up the games at the store on Tuesday so...

Ugh.
 

Vire

Member
40 dollar price point is starting to make more sense based on the length reports..

Original game lasted 10-12 without having to switch to hard mode or do a bunch of collectathons.

This is literally half that. Kinda bummed :/
 

Unknown?

Member
No you insinuated I had made up my mind and was shit posting.

5 hours would be a problem if that's the average. This same argument comes up anytime somebody takes issue with game length "oh well collectibles, oh well yeah speed runs, etc etc". Ultimately what I'm saying if you take both games and go through at average pace campaign only, one is 10-12 the other is 5-7 I wouldnt be able to help feeling underwhelmed, especially since I've been a fan of this series since day 1.

There have been plenty of other people here who have stated otherwise. We get that a 5 hour game would be disappointing but people above have already told you why it will be much longer than Into the Nexus.

I mean obviously there will always be someone who beats a game super fast before it comes out not by speed running. It happens ALL the time. Even The Last of Us was beat incredibly fast before it came out.
 
40 dollar price point is starting to make more sense based on the length reports..

Original game lasted 10-12 without having to switch to hard mode or do a bunch of collectathons.

This is literally half that. Kinda bummed :/
"length reports"

As in, one person.
 

cheesekao

Member
40 dollar price point is starting to make more sense based on the length reports..

Original game lasted 10-12 without having to switch to hard mode or do a bunch of collectathons.

This is literally half that. Kinda bummed :/
For the love of god, can you at least wait until we have more impressions from other people instead of focusing on one guy before you make such a statement?
 
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