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Angry Joe Quantum Break Review.
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That's not true.
Sleight of Jam
Banned
The parts where you have to manipulate time to a state when a door was open blew my mind or to when you can stand on a dumpster. I just don't get what the developers were thinking when designing something like that.
Joe looked bored af when streaming this and I don't blame him. The game really doesn't tick any boxes for me. Microsoft need to kick their exclusives up a notch. Apart from Sunset Overdrive, everything has been bland and boring same old shooter stuff.
Joe looked bored af when streaming this and I don't blame him. The game really doesn't tick any boxes for me. Microsoft need to kick their exclusives up a notch. Apart from Sunset Overdrive, everything has been bland and boring same old shooter stuff.
They usually do a pretty good job of keeping you from staying in cover too long. Not sure if there was a glitch at that moment or the AI was just acting weird (nothing's perfect). In my two playthroughs I never had anything like that happen to me and I usually died pretty quickly if I stayed in one spot for too long. I have no doubt other people may encounter this but don't think it's indicative of every encounter.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
This playing the wrong or right way stuff is bullshit. If you can complete a game playing it "the wrong way" and it will be a bad experience then it sounds like bad game design.
Yeah time version was really weird and made no sense. what does stopping time power has to do with locating enemas locations? lol.
CrazedProfessional
Member
It isn't bad game design, it's a player literally refusing to use the toolbox handed to him.
Majukun
Member
what about just making the "weak" enemy able to shoot you from 10 meters if you stay still?
it can be the equivalent of a goomba in the quantum break universe,he should still be able to kill a perfectly still main character
i understand what you are saying,but him being unable to kill you and the game not punishing you for not using the mechanics it is supposed to be designed around it's more of a problem of the game than the player...we are hard wired to find the simplest solution ,hell even in games like bayonetta people used the killgore glitch to basically cruise thorugh the game with one combo,and that's a genre that is supposed to be drived by how well you wanna play with its mechanics...
both are programmers' faults,but one was unintentional,one was a bad design choice.
Ovek
7Member7
If anything Joe has gone easy on QB with a 5 out of 10.
The game is a boring slog broken up by even more boring, awfully produced zero level "TV episodes" that add literally nothing to the game.
For me I would give it 2 out of 10, the only redeeming thing is that the game isn't long if you skip the cut scenes so you don't have to wade through the boring shit show for any great length of time.
The game is a boring slog broken up by even more boring, awfully produced zero level "TV episodes" that add literally nothing to the game.
For me I would give it 2 out of 10, the only redeeming thing is that the game isn't long if you skip the cut scenes so you don't have to wade through the boring shit show for any great length of time.
JTCx
Member
Yeah his destiny review was pretty good lol
You can't make people play on the difficulty you think is the right one to use unless you remove difficulty sliders altogether.
Gravy Boat
Member
He did use the powers though, just not 'correctly' according to you.
I agree its not true, but a sniper can and will take you down in 1-2. It sucks and the reason why you have to be on the move. Other than the sniper it takes a few bullets from any other enemy outside of shotgun gives you ample room to make adjustments.
A game that doesn't smack you in the face for "refusing to use the toolbox handed to you" has elements of bad design, and if Joe isn't complaining about the sheer difficulty he had in getting through the game then the game is at fault.
Whether it's a case of not being essential or not being taught well, just the fact that you can get through the game ignoring the elements that elevate the gameplay, is a problem.
But he isn't "refusing" to use the powers though, he just didn't use them all the time which is nothing wrong and is an intended "playstyle" to play the game, otherwise he wouldn't be able to finish the game without problems.
If the game doesn't give the player the incentives to use the powers or if they are just generally not that fun or worthwhile, players won't be inclined to use them and that's on the game and how it is designed ultimately.
It's so embarrassing to read through some of the posts here. Joe always puts forth a well-thought out and detailed argument to support his reasoning. Even when I don't agree with his score, I feel like I can more or less always understand where he's coming from.
And unlike the UC3 embarrassment, it's not like Joe's review is the one anomaly. There are other publications that gave QB a middling or heck even worse score than what Joe gave it. I don't get the need for bruised feelings over this.
Have you played the game? It is literally impossible to stay in one place more than 5-10 seconds. Especially on Hard, but I'm playing atm on Normal and even then you're forced out of cover very frequently. Your time powers are only really effective when you move with them (you get slow-time bonuses for moving), so you're incentivised to move.
I tell you what I dislike about his reviews is that they just go along with what everyone else is saying. I've yet to see a point brought up by him that hasn't been brought up 400x by others online.
It's almost like he waits 2 weeks to do his review AFTER he's read through all of the other reviews
It's almost like he waits 2 weeks to do his review AFTER he's read through all of the other reviews
SpiritSlayer
Member
From what I saw Joe did use "toolbox" handed to him, the "toolbox" being the way he wanted to play the game. It's just that you don't agree with how he played.
His take is not too far off from my own. I found it super forgettable.
It's a perfectly fine game but it took Quantum Break to make me realize these big budget linear set-piece focused games just aren't my thing anymore.
I played on normal and found zero challenge, that last boss must be one of the easiest in history.
I did end up skipping all the tv episodes though, one day I'll replay it on hard and force myself to sit through them.
It's a perfectly fine game but it took Quantum Break to make me realize these big budget linear set-piece focused games just aren't my thing anymore.
I played on normal and found zero challenge, that last boss must be one of the easiest in history.
I did end up skipping all the tv episodes though, one day I'll replay it on hard and force myself to sit through them.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Have you played the game? It is literally impossible to stay in one place more than 5-10 seconds. Especially on Hard, but I'm playing atm on Normal and even then you're forced out of cover very frequently. Your time powers are only really effective when you move with them (you get slow-time bonuses for moving), so you're incentivised to move.
In the review we saw him sit in one spot for 10 minutes getting shot by an enemy intermittently at medium range and not even come close to dying.
Lol he buys his games and plays through them like all the other people, then has to record and edit a 30 minute video. Guess what? That can easily take two weeks.
Being salty af is one thing but ignorant is a different matter.
Halph n Halph
Member
It sounds like this game is great fun if you follow a very long list of rules and regulations on how it should be played.
That has nothing to do with it. It's that his reviews are an almost the perfect microcosm of the opinions about a game in general. I've always gotten the sense that he checks out what people are saying about a game to work those into his review.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Christ we get some ridiculous posts here.
superNESjoe
Member
Can I ask without getting scolded? We have review threads. Why is AJ so special that he gets a thread for every review? Why doesn't this go in the review thread? Or maybe an Angry Joe OT like Kinda Funny has.
This has zero to do with my opinion of AJ, it's simply curiosity. I don't understand why his content is singled out. It's not like he's an industry veteran with outrageously valuable experience and insight.
These threads bring out the worst in people a lot. Usually more so than a regular review thread.
This has zero to do with my opinion of AJ, it's simply curiosity. I don't understand why his content is singled out. It's not like he's an industry veteran with outrageously valuable experience and insight.
These threads bring out the worst in people a lot. Usually more so than a regular review thread.
For the same reason each Jimquisition gets their own threads: because they've both been getting their own threads for a while. It's become tradition or sommit.
One thing I find weird is that one of his biggest complaints was the lack of emotional connection with the characters. He calls the episodes boring, low budget pieces and it shows him "snoozing" on a scene that had Liam and his wife. The episodes are mostly there to characterize some of the secondary characters and this scene in particular was there to provide context as to why Liam's so hellbent on finding the lifeboat. There are slow moments in the show (not everything can be guns and explosions) but there were definitely efforts to make the player sympathize with some of the characters. I don't know if he just completely ignored the show (seeing the review and also him leaving during the show on his live stream) but he definitely should at least give it a chance.
Because there's merit in being able to have a focused discussion on a single thing, be it a video, podcast or in this case an in-depth video review.
It's the same reason why we have weekly Bombcast and Beastcast threads where people can discuss the contents of that particular episode and not just Giant Bomb in general.
Gravy Boat
Member
So in this thread we have people saying that he both purposely gives game lower scores than anyone else for clicks, and other people saying he essentially just copies opinions from other reviews. It can't really be both.
superNESjoe
Member
I guess that makes sense, it just seems weird when everything else is usually put in one thread. I've always been curious why this was OK but other threads considered derivative or that caused clutter got closed. Was always too nervous to ask since I've seen people get banned for it.
I can totally understand that as a criticism in maybe the first episode, if it ended there. It does place characters and give a suggestion of importance through the level of dialogue and the visual language used when they are present, which almost feels jarring as they hit you in the face without introduction. That is gone very quickly and the character's motivations become once the branching narrative has locked in on either Liam or Charlie.
SpiritSlayer
Member
He said he wouldn't review it.
I guess it's one of those things where it could depend on the topic.
If all else fails you could PM a mod and ask before posting a thread and see what they think.
Seems like a problem with the posters not the thread or the media creator.
IncognitoPanda
Member
Completely agree. Hyperbole is like his schtick. Maybe he's making a lot of good points, I wouldn't know because I physically can't stand the guy.
The Fallout 4 review was a lot more positive than the microcosm of the opinions about the game. How do you explain that?
I find the lack of hip fire in the game bizarre as well considering the emphasis on movement and making the combat look cinematic.Very weird omission considering RT does nothing out of aiming. The game also kinda reminds of infamous where the combat is a lot more fun when you are constantly moving, although shooting from cover is far more viable in QB due to regenerating health which could be seen as bad design.
There are efforts, true. Problem is they are boring, badly written and acted and pretty cliched. Oh, offcourse the security officer of the bad guys has doubts about his allegiance. HIS WIFE IS PREGNANT! I started the show with the best intentions, but it is in all honestly a snoozefest, because... you don't connect to it's characters at all.
And no, I'm not the kind of guy that wants action every 5 seconds...
Yeah, so weird that people playing the same game have the same quelms on it. It's like they... played the same game?
Why do people try to dismiss the reviewer when they don't agree with him, in stead of accepting the criticism and engaging it with arguments of their own? Nobody will frown on you for liking Quantum Break because Angry Joe didn't like it. But you could just discuss why you like it and fight his arguments in stead of the guy himself.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Doesn't Joe get his own thread because by the time his review comes out the mega review thread is dead? He puts a lot of work into these, it'd be kinda sad if we shot up a several week old thread, it got two or three new responses and then it died again rather than the fresh discussion a new thread is generating.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
It is absoultely bizarre and something that can not be just dismissed as nitpicking. Hipfire would change the entire dynamic of the game as would be the abilty to dive in and out of cover.
People are defending this game have every right to proclaim this is not a cover shooter. But its not a very good action based one either as all the mecahincs require you to be rooted to the spot to use them effectively. The only exceptions are the time dash and time run, which feel like concessions to make up for a poor combat system, not game enhancing mechanics in of themselves.
People only dislike AJ threads when he doesnt like the game they are personally invested in.
Did you even watch the video in the OP? 10min AFK in one spot.
An outlier? I dunno. It's not like people hated Fallout 4, and I don't recall the review but I feel confident in saying that Joe had a problem with the dialogue system, didn't he?
I'm just saying that I don't think he's ever had a dissenting opinion on a game, and I struggle to imagine doing that for such a long period of time without checking your opinion against the consensus before reviewing a game.