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Pokemon vs Digimon GAMES only
- Thread starter The Artisan
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But "two regions" is just a change in volume. It's not some significant innovation.
Leafhopper
Banned
You know how these threads go, man. People always treat it as such.
Considering what they changed in RSE and DPPt and even BW(2) I disagree.
DeadlyParasite
Member
Pokémon, but I remember playing a Digimon game for the playstation 1 that was pretty fun and cool. I don't remember the name of it though. :\
EDIT: Turned out to be Digimon World.
EDIT: Turned out to be Digimon World.
To be fair, GSC brought breeding and genders, day to night cycles, the PokéGear, Steel and Dark types, and the two regions were pretty big at the time. HGSS refined Kanto and made it feel less barebones.
GSC/HGSS brought quite a bit to the franchise.
Hot Coldman
Banned
It's not even a change in volume, really, considering Kanto was heavily truncated and Johto is rather small. Like, Sinnoh in Gen IV is really quite similar in size, if not bigger once you consider all the caves and so on.
GSC are fondly remembered because they carry a lot of the simplicity and nostalgia associated with Gen 1, without much of Gen 1's ugly reality, whilst adding new mechanical depth with hold items, breeding, day/night cycles and so on that really do flesh out the whole experience. Plus, frankly, the very end is the peak of the series.
But it's hard to argue the leaps made there are in service of anything beyond what Pokemon was already doing.
Leafhopper
Banned
Oh yeah, I am not doubting that GSC brought a lot, and I mean a lot to the franchise but, people claiming it's the only worth while advancements in the series is a laughable thing.
Unlimited TMs that came out in Black and White has been the best damn thing to happen for me personally and if they ever took that away at this point I would actually be done.
Weather moves, as annoying they are for some, was a new layer of battle that had to be considered and I thought that was a big change as well.
Again, I get why people say Gold Silver and Crystal brought a lot to the franchise because a lot of it is a lot more noticeable immediately but, every gen has added something significant.
Every single gen has brought something new to the franchise. It was gen IV the one brought the largest and most important change to the series.
That is defo true. Unlimited TMs are great.
But we had no record of what they were already doing. RBGY were all we had to go off of; there were no improvements before GSC.
Yeah, but in terms of covering different bases, I think GSC does quite a bit. Heck, it even added gender options!
And yes, there have been games that have surpassed GSC if we're looking at it purely in terms of content. Platinum and B2W2 come to mind. B2W2 is probably the most dense Pokémon game ever made.
I don't get why.
Like Emerald expanded the Battle Tower into a post-game that actually changed up gameplay significantly, removing player crutches and forcing them to play optimally in a variety of challenges... And yet somehow that's "stale rehash" while just tacking on a barebones version of the normal single player campaign is some groundbreaking innovation.
Oh I'm not denying they brought a ton; breeding especially was huge.
It's just there's this bizarre idea GSC was this huge shakeup and nothing else in the series changed thing up again.
Hot Coldman
Banned
They were already doing... everything that was in RBGY. What I meant by that was that most of the additions in Gen II were just to flesh out the existing systems with massively revamping any of them, or introducing any new systems. Special split and hold items give battles more depth, Shinies and new evolution methods make collecting more interesting, breeding makes the raising aspect even more emotionally solid... Meanwhile the rest of the game - the multiplayer, the plot, the exploration element - was much as it was in RBY.
Viewed from this angle, and compared to changes later Gens would bring, Gen II does a lot MORE, but the scope is more or less the same.
Most people only care about superficial changes to the story. As long as the main game remains about collecting 8 badges, then nothing will change in their eyes. Quite frankly, people that say Pokemon hasn't changed since day one have no idea what they're talking about.
You're not alone, the lionization of GSC/HG/SS has always been baffling to me. Kanto is cool on paper, but I don't like how it basically cut Johto down to make room for it. And G/S/C's awful exp curve and Pokemon distribution make it hard for me to enjoy as the other games.
I suppose so. Multiplayer being revolutionized in Gen IV aside, each gen brought refinements to existing systems instead of introducing something brand new.
Which isn't a bad thing. The tried and true formula of Pokémon is gold. Refining that same formula is great.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Most Digimon games are downright awful.
Only one main series game was unpleasant, and the side games are mostly bad.
Only one main series game was unpleasant, and the side games are mostly bad.
Pokemaniac
Member
There have been significant mechanical advancements over the years. Each generation brings both new and changed mechanics.
You can't just write off the whole thing after watching arguably the worst series of the bunch.
Not really, that is only the outline for a story. B/W's story was better received because it changed things up. The story didn't feel (to me anyway) like the same old go collect 8 badges and defeat the league story.
Part of it was probably the story presentation being better but the story just felt different from the average mainline Pokemon game.
All I need from a Pokemon game is an interesting story (and region, if the region itself is boring, :/), ORAS, BW/BW2, etc were good for that. X/Y while I had fun with it, it felt more of a drag to me. The story just wasn't that interesting to me.
Rapscallion
Member
Pokemon for sure.
To be fair, I've only played Cyber Sleuth. It was a fun enough game, but it had some pretty blaring flaws that hold it back from being a true classic. As a purely monster collecting/training game, Cyber Sleuth just isn't quite to the level that Pokemon is (even if its earliest incarnation). Cyber Sleuth felt like a Persona emulating RPG with a Digimon backing, where as Pokemon has always been first and foremost a game about the monsters themselves
To be fair, I've only played Cyber Sleuth. It was a fun enough game, but it had some pretty blaring flaws that hold it back from being a true classic. As a purely monster collecting/training game, Cyber Sleuth just isn't quite to the level that Pokemon is (even if its earliest incarnation). Cyber Sleuth felt like a Persona emulating RPG with a Digimon backing, where as Pokemon has always been first and foremost a game about the monsters themselves
Agreed.
Tye The Czar
Member
Since Game Freak is technically their own thing, I think Bamco should really get them to make a Digimon game.
I'm a flavour of the day kind of man when it comes to either franchise and today's flavour is Digimon thanks to Cyber Sleuth.
Honestly I'm loving the game, it does a lot of things right, even something minor like your Digimon following you is enough to make me take screenshot after screenshot. That being said I enjoy both franchises and my opinion will very well change once I get Pokemon Moon/Sun.
Digimon obliterates Pokemon on the anime front though, not going to deny that.
Honestly I'm loving the game, it does a lot of things right, even something minor like your Digimon following you is enough to make me take screenshot after screenshot. That being said I enjoy both franchises and my opinion will very well change once I get Pokemon Moon/Sun.
Digimon obliterates Pokemon on the anime front though, not going to deny that.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Digimon World is better than every Pokemon game.
Leafhopper
Banned
Have you actually played Digimon World 1 recently? At least say World 2 or 3.
I'm confused. I want to vote for Digemon, but it isn't on the poll.
The only Digimon game I remember playing and enjoying is Battle Spirit. And 1.5 didn't get a GBA port so even that kind of disappoints.
Watch Digimon Tamers right now. Literally this second. Stop reading this post and watch Tamers.
The only Digimon game I remember playing and enjoying is Battle Spirit. And 1.5 didn't get a GBA port so even that kind of disappoints.
Watch Digimon Tamers right now. Literally this second. Stop reading this post and watch Tamers.
No Way!!! Ill take Media Vision with a bigger budget anyday of the week
Cant believe some people in here didnt like Cyber Sleuth' soundtrack. I know everyone has their own tastes and all, but Masafumi Takada is a beast
I'm too busy pretending to study for 2 exams I have on Thursday.
Digimon is leagues better, and it always was.
So is Digimon World 2. And Cyber Sleuth.
So is Digimon World 2. And Cyber Sleuth.
Also, Gotcha Force is a better monster collection game than both of these jokes.
Let me give you a cheat sheet:
Let me give you a cheat sheet:
A Jigglypuff as seen from above
While I respect that Pokemon has had the better games, I've kind of burnt out on them and I personally prefer Digimon games at this point.
I love Digimon World 1 and 2 (hate 3 though), Digimon World Re
igitize, and Cyber Sleuth. I even kind of liked Digimon World 4. I've played and loved countless Pokemon games, but at this point I get much more excited for Digimon announcements.
It also appears I need to rewatch Tamers, I don't remember it being that great.
I love Digimon World 1 and 2 (hate 3 though), Digimon World Re
igitize, and Cyber Sleuth. I even kind of liked Digimon World 4. I've played and loved countless Pokemon games, but at this point I get much more excited for Digimon announcements.It also appears I need to rewatch Tamers, I don't remember it being that great.
Digimon Tamers is easily the best Digimon-related anything ever.
Adventure 1 is pretty fun and imaginative.
Adventure 2 is bad and boring.
Frontier is fucking garbage.
Good thing they absolutely redeemed themselves with XY, which is arguably the best Pokemon anime of all time.
BW was special and sadly the exception to the rule. I think Game Freak went out all on that one becuase they knew that was the last sprite-based Pokemon game they were ever going to make.
The problem with the single player in Pokemon game is that it will never be nothing more than a 50+ hour tutorial because they have to make it with children in mind, which means the gameplay and story will always be somewhat restrictive. Yes, BW changed things around a bit and I commend them for it, but at the end of the day, the core experience was pretty much the same. The big difference was that they made the evil team story take center stage which created a struggle that lasted until the very end.
Oh, I'm not writing it off. I love Diamond/Pearl and X/Y, but Best Wishes is SO BAD, it causes the average quality of the entire show to go down.
I don't really like it. XY is the best ever.
It's hard to compare them because Pokemon is a multiplayer oriented game, in which the push for it has been going for years resulting in the catastrophe that was XY's bare bones campaign. Game Freaks invests heavily on communication aspects and online infrastructure because that's their main goal and vision for the games. I find inexcusable how much of a step back we had from the relatively great B/W games on DS, and since I haven't gotten in the multiplayer aspect of it due to the still relatively high barriers of entry, it hurts my enjoyment a lot even if I can get understand the improvements they have.
supermarioworldE
Banned
I didnt even know Digimon had games...
Matt Attack
Member
I'd say Pokemon is a lot more consistently high quality. Cyber Sleuth was mostly great, certainly better than the other Digimon games I've played, but I'd still rank my favorite Pokemon games over it.
Leafhopper
Banned
Savers/Data Squad actually saved Digimon man. That's a fun ride. So is Xros Wars. Frontier is legit brooding for half a series.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
I mean, I really like Digimon, but the answer is Pokemon.
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