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(Rumor)(spoilers) this Possible UC4 Easter Egg oh boy

TsuWave

Member
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)
 
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)

The Crash series is almost always the top most purchased classic games on PSN. As long as they kept the budget realistic I think it could be very successful for them. The problem is Activision would probably ask a huge price for the IP
 

Pif

Banned
I'd be so happy with a simple upres and cleaner textures. Keep the polygon count.

I just want the very same I played as a kid.
 
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)

Ratchet and Clank seems to be doing very, very well, and reviewed amazingly above expectation. It's more than possible to be successful in the genre.

The Crash series is almost always the top most purchased classic games on PSN. As long as they kept the budget realistic I think it could be very successful for them. The problem is Activision would probably ask a huge price for the IP

For a purchase, perhaps. A long-term license though, could be a different story. I find it hard to believe that Sony would license the Crash IP just to put it in Uncharted 4, though. Bruce Straley claimed this segment was removed due to Sony not owning the IP -- but yet it's in the game NOW. I think that's a happy accident and the Uncharted thing came because Sony bought a license for the IP. At least, that's my working theory.

So does this mean there's play throughs on YouTube already?

I guess this means technically there have been gameplay videos of Uncharted 4 on YouTube since YouTube's inception.
 

FelipeMGM

Member
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)

Everytime the Crash talk comes someone writes this^. The 4 main PS1 games still sell great on PS3, topping the charts every month or so. Plus Ratchet seems to be doing way over expected, and that is also a good sign that people want these kind of games.

Crash was huge at its peak (Warped sold over 7M copies) and Im pretty sure if the new games are good, it will do just fine in terms of sales

So does this mean there's play throughs on YouTube already?

There has been some videos uploaded to youtube, but Sony ninjas are fast af and are taking it down pretty quickly
 

EGOMON

Member
The only way Sony can top last year E3 is by announcing a new Crash game with remaster of the first 3 plus CTR :D
 
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)
I don't care, I just want a new Crash game! I think it deserves a chance to be brought back, at the very least.
 

Hasney

Member
The only way Sony can top last year E3 is by announcing a new Crash game with remaster of the first 3 plus CTR :D

That's sliding well under the bar of last year for me. I'd be disappointed if Crash is their big thing for E3, but I had my stuff last year, so I'll be alright.
 

007

Banned
Why are people thinking this means a Crash game is coming?

Naughty Dog featuring one of their IPs as an easter egg in their newest game...

It's a portent of nothing, they did it in TLOU, were people screaming about a new Jak game incoming then?

I agree. It does seem like people are grasping at straws. ND know people love Crash, so they put the first game as an asset in their latest. That's it, a nod to a past beloved game.

I'm not saying it doesn't mean they'll make a new crash game, but confirmation this is not.

Now if the game was a ps4 case and showed a new game like:

Uncharted x Bandicoot

Then we'd be onto something.
 

I Wanna Be The Guy

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
The only way Sony can top last year E3 is by announcing a new Crash game with remaster of the first 3 plus CTR :D
I didn't give a single shit about any of their big 3 last year. Not a single one. Anything Crash related automatically makes this their best E3 in years for me.

Personally I have to go back to 2011 to find a Sony E3 I was satisfied with. The future for Vita was so bright then. God fucking damnit.
 
I agree. It does seem like people are grasping at straws. ND know people love Crash, so they put the first game as an asset in their latest. That's it, a nod to a past beloved game.

I'm not saying it doesn't mean they'll make a new crash game, but confirmation this is not.

Now if the game was a ps4 case and showed a new game like:

Uncharted x Bandicoot

Then we'd be onto something.
I'd agree with you, but the number of Crash references over he past year or two seems like a little too many to be just for nostalgic purposes.

Crash Bandicoot is returning. Mark my words. Hype.
 
Why are people thinking this means a Crash game is coming?

Naughty Dog featuring one of their IPs as an easter egg in their newest game...

It's a portent of nothing, they did it in TLOU, were people screaming about a new Jak game incoming then?

Both are different situation. Jak is owned by Sony so ND can use its reference whenever they want. Now, ND had trouble with Activision when doing 30th anniversary, ND wanted to add Crash to their artbook but they couldn't because Activision didn't allow it. Back to this, they finally added Crash reference in their game so you have to wonder why Activision allowed this time but not before.
 

Scotia

Banned
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)

Every time.

Every. Goddamn. Time
 

Armigr

Member
I agree. It does seem like people are grasping at straws. ND know people love Crash, so they put the first game as an asset in their latest. That's it, a nod to a past beloved game.

I'm not saying it doesn't mean they'll make a new crash game, but confirmation this is not.

Now if the game was a ps4 case and showed a new game like:

Uncharted x Bandicoot

Then we'd be onto something.

But Sony doesn't own the rights to anything related to Crash, Activision does. Activision is notoriously strict with its IPs, so in order for something like this to happen money must've exchanged hands. And I don't think Sony would pay Activision money just for a cute little easter egg.
 
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)

If Rachet & Clank proved anything, making a good game + budget price = success. Sony did it with Sly and R&C recently so I don't see how they don't try it with Crash, especially Sony hardcore fans ask it for years
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
would crash games even be commercially successful currently?

i feel like it might be something the internet wants but it might not reflect into sales (then again i was quite young when crash was at its peak, and though i played and enjoyed the games, my understanding of the overall picture was quite low so i might be underestimating how big crash was/is)

Crash was as big as Mario at the time during his trilogy. You could say Mario was Nintendo's Halo vs. current Uncharted for Sony. Leading mascots for their respective platform - with the sales to back it up.

If the game gets a solid dev budget, a solid studio to make it, decent time in the oven and a decent marketing budget, (not the poor excuses Sony gives to platformers).... it will do well. It has the brand name, it has the throwback appeal, the install base is there.

At the end of the day a game being successful hangs in the balance of many variables.....

The new Ratchet reboot seems to have done well....relatively low marketing (aside from the movie that apparently bombed critically wise - and almost assuredly commercially). So the game rode to success based on 6 things: good developer --> good game --> good word of mouth, great critical acclaim, brand recognition/appeal, budget pricing - all which ultimately translates to demand.

Now compare that to say Tearaway (little brand recognition, low marketing budget), or LittleBigPlanet 3 (buggy launch, ok reviews (considered panned), crowded launch window)... I mean... hard to say. Nintendo makes platformers succeed but they are usually their marquee titles w/ good marketing behind them. Sony's marquee titles these days are Guerrila's, ND's, SSM games...that's where the big money goes to.
 
As a post a few above me says, Sony do not own Crash. Even if they have distribution rights for Crash 1-3, CTR and Bash, they do not possess any right to incorporate that IP into any NEW product -- which Uncharted 4 clearly qualifies as. Activision has reportedly been the reason for distribution problems for Crash games in the past as well (including being rumored as part of the reason they're not on Vita in NA) and has been NOTORIOUSLY stubborn about the use of Crash by Sony and Naughty Dog -- famously denying them the casual use of it in an art contest celebrating their history, despite Naughty Dog not using it for any sort of profitable means.

But suddenly, Robomodo can't add Crash to Tony Hawk 5 because of "bad timing" and "rights issues". How are there rights issues on an IP their parent company owns the rights to in full?
Suddenly, Naughty Dog adds a playable Crash level and a boxed copy of the game in a character's living room, despite going on RECORD 10 months earlier, saying that they planned such a segment and removed it. Bruce Straley gave the reason they removed it -- because Sony does not own Crash, and they "don't control it."

Yet today, the segment is in the game. How can it be in the game now, when Bruce Straley clearly said they cut it because they did not own the rights and couldn't license it? He even went so far as to say "if it were possible, which it's not, let me emphasize".
Suddenly now, it's possible? What are we to assume that means then?
 

Fliesen

Member
Whose hand is this?

Looks like a woman's hand. (the thumb nail looks like it has shiny nail polish applied) and there seems to be some sort of wristband / bracelet visible at the bottom edge.
 
As a post a few above me says, Sony do not own Crash. Even if they have distribution rights for Crash 1-3, CTR and Bash, they do not possess any right to incorporate that IP into any NEW product -- which Uncharted 4 clearly qualifies as. Activision has reportedly been the reason for distribution problems for Crash games in the past as well (including being rumored as part of the reason they're not on Vita in NA) and has been NOTORIOUSLY stubborn about the use of Crash by Sony and Naughty Dog -- famously denying them the casual use of it in an art contest celebrating their history, despite Naughty Dog not using it for any sort of profitable means.

But suddenly, Robomodo can't add Crash to Tony Hawk 5 because of "bad timing" and "rights issues". How are there rights issues on an IP their parent company owns the rights to in full? Suddenly, Naughty Dog adds a playable Crash level and a boxed copy of the game in a character's living room, despite going on RECORD 10 months earlier, saying that they planned such a segment and removed it. Bruce Straley gave the reason they removed it -- because Sony does not own Crash, and they "don't control it."

Yet today, the segment is in the game. How can it be in the game now, when Bruce Straley clearly said they cut it because they did not own the rights and couldn't license it? He even went so far as to say "if it were possible, which it's not, let me emphasize". Suddenly now, it's possible? What are we to assume that means then?

Has this been shown in any videos yet, or just hearsay?
 

Ash735

Member
Yet today, the segment is in the game. How can it be in the game now, when Bruce Straley clearly said they cut it because they did not own the rights and couldn't license it? He even went so far as to say "if it were possible, which it's not, let me emphasize". Suddenly now, it's possible? What are we to assume that means then?

In before Day One Patch removes this content and this was just a leftover from that test. :(
 
Has this been shown in any videos yet, or just hearsay?

There are no videos. We have several independent accounts of the segment, though, including some here on GAF. One of the people who claimed it supplied many screenshots (or camera shots rather) of the game that verify everything else they said.

In before Day One Patch removes this content and this was just a leftover from that test. :(

This could be totally possible.
 
In before Day One Patch removes this content and this was just a leftover from that test. :(

you don't release discs and gold versions of the game with this in it as an OOPS!

This had to be developed over a period of time and negotiated with activision. this stuff doesn't even get anywhere near the game unless things weren't sorted out beforehand.

naw, if this is indeed in the game it would be a massive effort by sony to have gone through just for an easter egg
 
I've read a couple of different accounts of the game from people who have already played it. And both of them mentioned there's a playable level of Crash

Just seems strange no one has captured any of that section tbh. Could it just be people elaborating on the nod that ND have put in, or is it actually going to be there! Argh isn't it the 10th yet?
 

Harmen

Member
What also makes this interesting is that Abe's Exodus, the other PS game lying there (right?) is officially getting a remake. Sooo maybe there are implications for Crash as well? A R&C type remake would be neat.
 

rrs

Member
the full filled in K-A logo looks super weird
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As a post a few above me says, Sony do not own Crash. Even if they have distribution rights for Crash 1-3, CTR and Bash, they do not possess any right to incorporate that IP into any NEW product -- which Uncharted 4 clearly qualifies as. Activision has reportedly been the reason for distribution problems for Crash games in the past as well (including being rumored as part of the reason they're not on Vita in NA) and has been NOTORIOUSLY stubborn about the use of Crash by Sony and Naughty Dog -- famously denying them the casual use of it in an art contest celebrating their history, despite Naughty Dog not using it for any sort of profitable means.

But suddenly, Robomodo can't add Crash to Tony Hawk 5 because of "bad timing" and "rights issues". How are there rights issues on an IP their parent company owns the rights to in full?
Suddenly, Naughty Dog adds a playable Crash level and a boxed copy of the game in a character's living room, despite going on RECORD 10 months earlier, saying that they planned such a segment and removed it. Bruce Straley gave the reason they removed it -- because Sony does not own Crash, and they "don't control it."

Yet today, the segment is in the game. How can it be in the game now, when Bruce Straley clearly said they cut it because they did not own the rights and couldn't license it? He even went so far as to say "if it were possible, which it's not, let me emphasize".
Suddenly now, it's possible? What are we to assume that means then?
]that sony paid a shitload of money for crash
 

GribbleGrunger

Dreams in Digital
I'll spoiler tag in case others haven't paid it much attention.
Shit, already knew about this, but didn't pay much attention to the hand. It doesn't look like Drake's at all

Oh but it is. This is actually a huge spoiler but many people won't spot it. Best to leave it that way.
 
Could you PM me the spoiler? Now I'm really curious and it will be a while before I get around to playing Uncharted 4. I still have to finish 2 and 3 haha.

it's in the picture. look for it and it's pretty obvious, too.

i dont even know the exact spoiler but one can deduce from the image what it is
 
And here we go with everyone jimping on the "it's happening" bandwagon. Careful guys, I wouldn't look at this as confirmation.

On a pessimistic note, I can't see a new Crash doing all that well in this climate, both critically or financially.
 

N.Domixis

Banned
And here we go with everyone jimping on the "it's happening" bandwagon. Careful guys, I wouldn't look at this as confirmation.

On a pessimistic note, I can't see a new Crash doing all that well in this climate, both critically or financially.

There was an interview with someone at ND that said they wanted to include a playable crash game. At that point in time they said that they tried but couldn't due to not owning crash. But now this leaks and shows you can play the actual game's first level? Crash bandicoot confirmed at this point. ND has never had easter eggs about crash.The closest I remember was a plant that resembled the piranha plants in Jax and Daxter 1.
 
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