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Marvel shares new info about their console plans, Spider-Man will be ongoing series

Sesha

Member
That's a very easy question Arc System Works. They already did a good job with Persona. It's just if they do a Marvel game it will be too hard for most people.

They're too small. I can't see them making a properly sized fighting game with a roster of 20+ characters when they're also juggling Guilty Gear Xrd and BlazBlue Whatever. Rumor has it they're also working on a new IP. Like I said, capability and capacity is necessary.


Most recently they are working on Modern Warfare Remastered.
 

nillapuddin

Member
Is there any galaxy in which MvC4 could be 2D?


I just really really don't care for 2.5/3D fighters.

If not, all i need is a MvC2 HD, and I would never ask for anything again
 

ZeroCDR

Member
I know people are saying that Marvel wouldn't use X-Men & FF characters in these games, but there's really no reason not to. All of those movie politics should not affect any other medium. Dr. Doom was in the Ultimate Spider-Man animated series not too long ago.

I'd like to believe that franchise history would be taken into account. MvC4 without any X-Men would be just as bad as when Capcom forgot to put Mega Man in the last one.

We'll just have to wait and see, but don't be afraid to let Marvel know what you want in the meantime.
 

PSqueak

Banned
Is there any galaxy in which MvC4 could be 2D?


I just really really don't care for 2.5/3D fighters.

If not, all i need is a MvC2 HD, and I would never ask for anything again

You mean specifically sprite based, no?

Because MVC3 was purely 2d in gameplay, 2.5 would be like rival schools.
 

nillapuddin

Member
You mean specifically sprite based, no?

Because MVC3 was purely 2d in gameplay, 2.5 would be like rival schools.

Sorry yeah that's what I meant, as in character visuals being fully sprite based.

In my opinion HD is so crisp these days, I'd love to see how they could do it. I'm not big into fighting games but it seems to me that most of the eastern developers have sprite based fighting games.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I'd like to believe that franchise history would be taken into account. MvC4 without any X-Men would be just as bad as when Capcom forgot to put Mega Man in the last one.

We'll just have to wait and see, but don't be afraid to let Marvel know what you want in the meantime.
If franchise history was taken into account, then Travelers' Tales would have been able to bypass the ban for the second Lego Marvel game (Lego Avengers).
 
If franchise history was taken into account, then Travelers' Tales would have been able to bypass the ban for the second Lego Marvel game (Lego Avengers).

Lego Marvel Super Heroes may have had X-Men/FF characters, but Wolverine is arguably the face of the Marvel side in the MvC series.

Even if they give Wolverine a pass, though, I can't imagine them giving a pass to the rest of the Fox characters.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Lego Marvel Super Heroes may have had X-Men/FF characters, but Wolverine is arguably the face of the Marvel side in the MvC series.
That said, I don't think Capcom is in a position where they can combat the ban. If they somehow manage to get past it, then good for them. But right now, the odds aren't in their favor if they enter negotiations with Marvel Entertainment.
 

Sesha

Member
Sorry yeah that's what I meant, as in character visuals being fully sprite based.

In my opinion HD is so crisp these days, I'd love to see how they could do it. I'm not big into fighting games but it seems to me that most of the eastern developers have sprite based fighting games.

Not anymore. The only franchises that still use 2D graphics or sprites are BlazBlue, and indie and doujin fighters like Arcana Heart. The recent iterations of Guilty Gear and King of Fighters both use 3D graphics now.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Sorry yeah that's what I meant, as in character visuals being fully sprite based.

In my opinion HD is so crisp these days, I'd love to see how they could do it. I'm not big into fighting games but it seems to me that most of the eastern developers have sprite based fighting games.
You do realize how expensive HD 2D sprites are, right?
 
I didn't realize that this deal could only have one game made.

Keep extrapolating what you want from what I mentioned. I'm 100% sure I typed "games", which is plural. It means more than one.

Edit: Also, if it's ok with everyone, I just have no interest in a Marvel fighting game. Just simply sharing my opinion on the direction I hope is taken. That's cool, yeah?
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Keep extrapolating what you want from what I mentioned. I'm 100% sure I typed "games", which is plural. It means more than one.
But what you were previously arguing is that Marvel should move away from fighting games when they can really do that in addition to story-driven games.
 

ZeroCDR

Member
If franchise history was taken into account, then Travelers' Tales would have been able to bypass the ban for the second Lego Marvel game (Lego Avengers).

Maybe a game specifically titled Avengers was harder for Marvel to budge on due to assumed connotation with the films from the general public? Possibly given it was in development prior to this new outlook on video games also.
 
But what you were previously arguing is that Marvel should move away from fighting games when they can really do that in addition to story-driven games.

Arguing. Yes, that is what I was doing... arguing. I'm not arguing with anyone. Simply sharing an opinion on what I'd like to see done. That is all.
 

RK128

Member
This news is fantastic to hear, spectacular even :D!

Spider-Man in Insomniac's hands due to Marvel wanting to honestly make a great Spider-Man title is wonderful to see finally happen, and hearing this will be a SERIES has me super excited. Insomniac is known for making their sequels fast, frequently and they tend to be even better the original games.

Just look at the Ratchet series if you want an example; Ratchet 1 was good but Ratchet 2 & 3 took things to 11.

I think this will lead to the following coming out in the future:
-Captain America or Iron Man by Sucker Punch (2018)
-Punisher by Ubisoft Monterial
-Marvel Fighting Game by Bandai-Namco or Capcom
-Spider-Man 2 from Insomniac Games in 2019 (two-three year development time)
 
Keep extrapolating what you want from what I mentioned. I'm 100% sure I typed "games", which is plural. It means more than one.

Edit: Also, if it's ok with everyone, I just have no interest in a Marvel fighting game. Just simply sharing my opinion on the direction I hope is taken. That's cool, yeah?

Its fine if you don't have an interest in one but to say they shouldn't make one at all is bullshit just because you don't like it. I don't care for a big open world game but I would never say they should never make one because that would be selfish as fuck. All these games can coexist and it won't be a problem.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Maybe a game specifically titled Avengers was harder for Marvel to budge on due to assumed connotation with the films from the general public? Possibly given it was in development prior to this new outlook on video games also.
But with rumblings of it being an Avengers game as a result of the ban (not sure if they're valid rumors, though), it makes one wonder if they did Lego Avengers because of the ban or if it was a choice. The fact that they couldn't refer to Johnny Storm by name in the OG Human Torch's dialogue (he only alludes to Johnny) kinda points towards the former.
 

Loxley

Member
I would like a new game featuring The Magical Gun Wizard please.

Ita nice to hear they won't focus on movie tie ins after the Civil War fiasco with Avengers Academy. That's not so say I wouldn't like to see those plot lines brought in.

Movie tie ins have always been weird to me because I can't really recall any selling well. The only one I actually enjoyed was a Monsters Inc one on PsOne and it was just a demo lmao

The game tie-ins for Spider-Man 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean 3 were two if the highest selling games of 2007, there absolutely was a period where movie tie-in games sold very very well.
 

KrebStar

Member
One step closer to my dream of a Moon Knight game becoming reality.

Also, Ant-Man's power set provides a ton of crazy possibilities for an action game.
 

SCB3

Member
[*]Movie tie-in games are over for Marvel. This is the same as their mobile strategy. All games will be given lengthy development cycles with all the budget they need and have no concerns about hitting a specific date tied to a movie/comic book/whatever. Marvel is very clear that developers cannot be rushed or underfunded if they're going to make great games.

That quote alone makes me so happy that Marvel is willing to allow devs time and effort for greater games than rush out piss poor products
 
"The future of the Spider-Man console games is with Sony and Insomniac."

Wow.

Insomniac has this sort of Spider-Man game on lockdown and Sony has an exclusive Spider-Man game on lockdown.

All the info in the OP sound great to me.

We're living in great times, folks.
 

Geeky

Member
A Captain America game that plays like MGS V-lite.

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The Sega First Avenger game is alright. It apes Arkham Asylum very much, but had some good ideas for the shield and much better HYDRA designs than the movie.

Mam, if Sega didn't drop the ball on the phase 1 games they would be sitting on a gold mine.
 

SCB3

Member
This news is fantastic to hear, spectacular even :D!

Spider-Man in Insomniac's hands due to Marvel wanting to honestly make a great Spider-Man title is wonderful to see finally happen, and hearing this will be a SERIES has me super excited. Insomniac is known for making their sequels fast, frequently and they tend to be even better the original games.

Just look at the Ratchet series if you want an example; Ratchet 1 was good but Ratchet 2 & 3 took things to 11.

I think this will lead to the following coming out in the future:
-Captain America or Iron Man by Sucker Punch (2018)
-Punisher by Ubisoft Monterial
-Marvel Fighting Game by Bandai-Namco or Capcom
-Spider-Man 2 from Insomniac Games in 2019 (two-three year development time)

A better example than Rachet 1 is Sunset Overdrive, that game is really good and had some great DLC as well
 
Here is what I'm wondering though, how would you guys design an Iron Man game? The fact that he can fly all the time makes it hard to think of a good premise. If it was an open world game it would have to be massive because he would just fly mission to mission no problem. Iron Man is also an international superhero right? His game can't really take place in one city, it would feel too small.
 

RK128

Member
A better example than Rachet 1 is Sunset Overdrive, that game is really good and had some great DLC as well

I was talking about in context to sequels. The Ratchet series keeps on getting better over time for example.

But yes, your case of Sunset Overdrive is a great example of their work making Spider-Man. SO was fluid, fast paced and overflowing with character & humor. Perfect example for a Spider-Man project.
 

SCB3

Member
Here is what I'm wondering though, how would you guys design an Iron Man game? The fact that he can fly all the time makes it hard to think of a good premise. If it was an open world game it would have to be massive because he would just fly mission to mission no problem. Iron Man is also an international superhero right? His game can't really take place in one city, it would feel too small.

Looking at Saints Row 4 and Infamous 2/Second Son kinda solves that problem.

Also it could be more linear and level/mission based
 

JimiNutz

Banned
Wonder if they can use similar destruction tech from Crackdown 3 to make a crazy Hulk game. Would be fun to go on a Hulk rampage (wasn't there already a good Hulk game previously?)
 
Do we know for sure that Sucker Punch is working on a new IP? They could do a great job with a number of Marvel properties.

Maybe Remedy is working with Marvel on something...
 

RK128

Member
The big four of the MCU Avengers (Iron Man, Cap, Thor and Hulk) have to be in the cards.

The question is how those four are going to work though. I can see the following happening for the different IP.

Iron Man:
-Flying Game made by Bandai-Namco (Ace Combat)
-Open-World game by Rockstar Games (they worked on licensed IP in the past such as the Warriors on PS2 & PSP)

Captain America:
-Open-World Super Hero title by Sucker Punch - Exclusive to the PS4
-First Person Action Game by Condemed Developers (they did great work with melee combat in first person in those titles)

Hulk:
-HULK SMASH SIMULATOR.....I mean, Open-World Destruction game by Volition Games (made the Red Faction PS3/360 Titles)
-Mastu Marvel Title by Omega Force (Fighting Marvel heroes and villains)

Thor:
-Action Brawler by Platinum Games (Published by Square Enix or Microsoft Game Studios)

Jessica Jones:
-Mystery Game by Dontnod Entertainment (Life is Strange Developers)

Daredevil:
-Action title taking place between Season 2 and 3; Made by Platinum Games (Published by Square Enix or Microsoft Game Studios)

I could also see the other games & things happening too.
-Fighting Game by Bandai-Namco or Capcom - Focused on the MCU characters
-Platformer staring Ant-Man & Wasp from Travelers Tales
-Marvel Heroes Join Lego Dimensions! - Lego Dimensions Year 3
-Spider-Man Becomes Flagship Sony IP - Insomniac Games makes sequels every two-three years (big Sony IP alongside Ratchet & Clank they work on for the company)
-Activision works with Marvel & Fox for re-releasing games like Marvel UA 1 & 2, Shattered Dimensions, Web of Shadows and more on PS4, Xbox One and PC
 

Sesha

Member
Oh god, Hulk Musou would be brilliant.

Wonder if they can use similar destruction tech from Crackdown 3 to make a crazy Hulk game. Would be fun to go on a Hulk rampage (wasn't there already a good Hulk game previously?)

Yes. Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. Developed by Radical Entertainment, the guys that later did Prototype.

I wonder if Rocksteady is ready to move on from Batman.

Rocksteady is under Warner Bros., along with Monolith Productions and Netherrealm Software. Don't expect anything from any of these.
 

Alexious

Member
But Activision is in the past, with regards to Spider-Man.

Thank Heavens. Let's hope they're in the past for every other superhero as well.

And great news overall, I want more comic book games on the level we've seen in the Spider-Man trailer.
 

RK128

Member
Oh god, Hulk Musou would be brilliant.



Yes. Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. Developed by Radical Entertainment, the guys that later did Prototype.



Rocksteady is under Warner Bros., along with Monolith Productions and Netherrealm Software. Don't expect anything from any of these.

I WANT that man XD!

After writing that.......I can't help but want it to happen now :').
 
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