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Should Sony announce a psVita2/psp3 in response of the nintendo NX being an handheld?

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DrArchon

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Look I know some people love their Vitas, but let's be clear here. Sony's portable consoles have never been able to compete with Nintendo's. For one reason or another, Nintendo always blows Sony out of the water with these things. And now the Mobile is the biggest market for games a Vita 2 would do that much worse. It would just be a money sink for Sony and everyone that ended up buying one would be disappointed when the support is eventually dropped.

So no, a new Sony portable console shouldn't be a thing. It's a terrible idea.
 
DigitalScrap

DigitalScrap

Member
No. Although a part of me really wishes they would.

If they did, I wouldn't be there day one this time. I'd have to wait at least a year to see if their hearts were even in it and if they were really going to give it a go this time. Oh, and they would definitely have to go with a standard memory format, or I would be out.

I absolutely love my Vita, and it is my second most played device (the N3DS is actually my most played device). I play the handhelds way more than the consoles these days it seems.

I'm still very happy with my Vita purchase (VitaTV, not so much, even though I only paid $40 for it), but I would be hesitant if they came out with a new one.
 
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Biske

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Fox_Mulder said:
Yay or Nay?

As many people have said they risk to lose the japan market whitout a new portable console.

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What about a PS4 Portable?
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All the ps4 games on the go (no internet connection is needed).
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No, there is no way I could afford whatever new jackass expensive memory card the thing would have.
 
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dragonyeuw

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Nope, Sony isn't touching the handheld market again. The mobile market has taken too big a chunk out of handheld gaming, even the defacto leader Nintendo realizes this and now consolidating their software and services onto a hybrid device( since they obviously cannot with Sony and MS on the home console tech wars front).
 
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TetraGenesis

Member
What is it with people and these "responses" that amount to really bad business? Re-entering the handheld market would be disastrous.

They have the fastest selling console of all time. People are responding to it. Sony doesn't need to do anything.
 
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21XX

Banned
So many dumb reactionary threads lately.

"Should Sony announce the Neo earlier because of the NX?"

"Is VR dying because of Pokemon Go's AR?"

"Should Nintendo make a retro Mario because of Sonic Mania?"
 
DESTROYA

DESTROYA

Member
Personally I would love to see one but in reality there is no chance of it happening because of how poorly the vita did.

a weak and tearful nay.
 
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Chill Penguin

Member
No obviously, Vita was a disaster. Nintendo is the only one who can make a handheld work in this era, due to the strength of their first party and Pokemon.
 
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4Tran

Member
DrArchon said:
Look I know some people love their Vitas, but let's be clear here. Sony's portable consoles have never been able to compete with Nintendo's. For one reason or another, Nintendo always blows Sony out of the water with these things. And now the Mobile is the biggest market for games a Vita 2 would do that much worse. It would just be a money sink for Sony and everyone that ended up buying one would be disappointed when the support is eventually dropped.

So no, a new Sony portable console shouldn't be a thing. It's a terrible idea.
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You're conflating the Vita and 3DS as products and those two as devices. No one is ever going to argue that Vita is as good as 3DS as a product, but that's not what anyone is saying when they say they love the Vita. They're saying that they love it as a device. And in that sense, the 3DS arguably makes for a very bad device with a bad featureset.
 
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Peltz

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That's one of the worst ideas I've ever heard, OP.

4Tran said:
You're conflating the Vita and 3DS as products and those two as devices. No one is ever going to argue that Vita is as good as 3DS as a product, but that's not what anyone is saying when they say they love the Vita. They're saying that they love it as a device. And in that sense, the 3DS arguably makes for a very bad device with a bad featureset.
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3DS is as good a gaming device as a Vita. Each serves a different aspect of what I love out of handheld gaming. Plus, the 3D screen is as cool as the OLED screen but just in a very different way. I wouldn't want to not own either of these devices.
 
Firestorm ZERO

Firestorm ZERO

Member
They should but they won't.

The Sony audience has the anime, otaku, visual novel+otome and teen/mature audience. They never do well in the Nintendo audience. I wonder how companies like Nippon Ichi, Falcom, Compile Heart and such will do in the future once Vita is truly dead. While PS4 is finally doing better in Japan, I don't think they can move their games over and make the same kind of game sales as the Vita.

In my opinion here are Sony's options
1 - Do nothing. Most likely what they will do. The Vita will die by the time NX comes out.
2 - Lower the price to $99. They most likely can do this. It hasn't got a price drop in a long while and the PSTV cost the same price (same insides as a vita without a screen and battery). If the NX is high priced (IMO most likely), it would be a nice cheap alternative.
3 - A Revision. Slight bump on specs. Little to no work. Just bump to a newer Cortex and PowerVR. Might keep it alive a little while longer.
4 - Match NX or exceed. No chance will happen. But it will make PS4/PSVita cross versions easier as the power difference isn't as bad.
 
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NHale

Member
Since when do you respond to a product that isn't even on the market and no one knows if it's going to be successful or not?

Especially considering how the PSVita ended up being a disaster sales wise.
 
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Not Spaceghost

Spaceghost
I don't think Sony should or would release a vita follow up, however I think it would be neat if they pursued the vita a tiny bit more.

Hilariously the vita still gets constant releases so devs have clearly found their audience on it. The vitas hardware is also decent enough for a handheld so I don't think that an update is that important.

I think it would be cool if sony at least sent their more experimental titles to the vita. They should treat it like their nuclear test site.
 
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Branduil

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Seriously though, another Sony handheld has never made less sense. The NX is rumored to be cutting edge, so it would be essentially impossible for Sony to gain the same graphical edge they had with the PSP and Vita. And it wouldn't likely get any games that the Vita isn't getting, so it would be utterly pointless. Outside of a very niche market nobody wants a Sony handheld now.

Firestorm ZERO said:
They should but they won't.

The Sony audience has the anime, otaku, visual novel+otome and teen/mature audience. They never do well in the Nintendo audience. I wonder how companies like Nippon Ichi, Falcom, Compile Heart and such will do in the future once Vita is truly dead.
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They'll put their games on the NX and PS4 since those will be the only options.
 
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humansarehorses

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No. Beginning from when they both launched, the PS4 is doing about as well as the Vita is in Japan and smaller Japanese games have and are finding their way to the PS4 too (Ys VIII, DG3, 13 Sentinels, Miku, God Eater, Toukiden, etc.).

No Japanese developer other than Sony would make use of the graphical capabilities anyway.

Branduil said:
They'll put their games on the NX and PS4 since those will be the only options.
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I doubt they'll put their games on the NX.
 
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Fox_Mulder

Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
NHale said:
Since when do you respond to a product that isn't even on the market and no one knows if it's going to be successful or not?
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In japan it sells more than the ps4.
If they don't release a new portable console they risk to lose all the japan market and the support of some japanese developers.
 
Elven_Star

Elven_Star

Member
I, for one, will buy it immediately. Vita is fantastic. Something more powerful without the expensive memory cards would kill. But I don't think it's going to happen. They have their hands full with Neo and PSVR for the foreseeable future. We might hear something in 4-5 years. Maybe around the launch of next gen consoles.
 
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Gitaroo

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they can still stay in the market if they can somehow build a mid end phone for 150 dollar that is decent enough for games, and at a high end model that is no more than 250 then do a upgrade every 3 years cycle. Just as long as they learn their mistake and no more propertery memory card. If it runs off android and runs apps with full phone functions I can definitely see myself getting one. Their mobile divison is rapidly shrinking so I think its worth a shot if they can make one that is backward compatible, you will have access to a massive exclusive library of games. Android OS can be customized to have its own security system like blackberry priv, so things can definitely be done for like priracy and security.
 
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Spiral Insanity

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DrArchon said:
Look I know some people love their Vitas, but let's be clear here. Sony's portable consoles have never been able to compete with Nintendo's. For one reason or another, Nintendo always blows Sony out of the water with these things. And now the Mobile is the biggest market for games a Vita 2 would do that much worse. It would just be a money sink for Sony and everyone that ended up buying one would be disappointed when the support is eventually dropped.

So no, a new Sony portable console shouldn't be a thing. It's a terrible idea.
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Ok
 
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FDBK

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A Vita successor that can also play Vita 1 titles, physical cards and prior digital purchases, can be a really great move for Sony.
 
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MacTag

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If they could somehow shrink PS4 down into a handheld (a la Turbo Express or Genesis Nomad) then sure. Another formfactor could be a decent revenue driver to extend the platform and might help change PS4's dismal Japanese outlook.

If they were going to do a new handheld system then no. Not worth the expense of building a new platform and Sony doesn't seem all that interested in the market anyway. Any effort here would be better served having SIE more seriously invest in mobile games.
 
Rellik

Rellik

Member
Response to what? The NX could be a bigger bomb than the Wii U for all we know. Then Sony just wasted even more millions on the handheld market to try and beat something that bombed.
 
Papacheeks

Papacheeks

Banned
Fox_Mulder said:
Yay or Nay?

As many people have said they risk to lose the japan market whitout a new portable console.

EDIT
What about a PS4 Portable?
definitiva.jpg

All the ps4 games on the go (no internet connection is needed).
Click to expand...

No, they don't have to do anything. The have the home console market lead, and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
 
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MacTag

Banned
humansarehorses said:
DS and 3DS were too. Look at those companies' paltry support for the former and non-existent support for the latter.
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So what came first, the Nintendo audience didn't support otaku publishers or otaku publishers didn't support the Nintendo audience?

Also, how are NIS, Falcom, Idea Factory, etc doing on PS4 so far?
 
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Deleted member 752119

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The biggest issue is the big hits on Sony and MS consoles are narrative driven games with lots of focus on spectacle, crazy set pieces, and having the graphics and sound be a huge part of the experience.

Those type of experiences suffer tremendously on portables. Where as many/most Nintendo games like Mario, Mario Kart, Pokemon etc. don't as they're just not that type of games and most focus is just on gameplay and not spectacle, realistic graphics etc.

So Sony and MS just don't really have the exclusives to drive portable sales, especially in Japan that's the key market for portables these days. Indies help, but most aren't going to buy a portable for games they can play on their console/pc already.
 
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Taigerr

Member
As a day 1 Vita owner I say NO NO NO.
Sony don't know the handheld market as demonstrated by their quick and silent loss of support for the platform, despite pleas from fans.

I was day 1 N3DS and never looked back..... the system is old tech but a far better experience than Vita IMHO.
 
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Branduil

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humansarehorses said:
DS and 3DS were too. Look at those companies' paltry support for the former and non-existent support for the latter.
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The DS and 3DS were considerably weaker relative to other consoles than the NX will be, and it's going to be the only handheld console in town. So either they just stop making handheld games(unlikely given that handhelds are bigger than home consoles in Japan) or they move to NX.
 
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