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[Kieli]

Now I'll just have to wait for the prices to go down...
I guess we'll still se laptops with the "old" GPUs" at a lower pricepoint as well.
Or will they disappear and there will be no step between the integrated GPUs and these?

Old GPUs have modest to zero discounts, and will be phased out unfortunately.

 

[SwiftDeath]

Now I'll just have to wait for the prices to go down...
I guess we'll still se laptops with the "old" GPUs" at a lower pricepoint as well.
Or will they disappear and there will be no step between the integrated GPUs and these?

1040s and 1050s will pop up soon enough. Nvidia isn't leaving the middle ground stuck in the past

 

[Kieli]

1040s and 1050s will pop up soon enough. Nvidia isn't leaving the middle ground stuck in the past

That a 40/50 level card is viable for some serious gaming is exciting. Laptops with these GPUs can go as low as $900 CAD.

 

[SwiftDeath]

That a 40/50 level card is viable for some serious gaming is exciting. Laptops with these GPUs can go as low as $900 CAD.

Absolutely. Exciting times for sure.

 

[UberTag]

1040s and 1050s will pop up soon enough. Nvidia isn't leaving the middle ground stuck in the past

Any ETA on when those 1040s and 1050s will materialize? Clearly they've already missed the "back to school" boat but can we definitely expect them to materialize in time for Black Friday?

 

[Sini]

Any ETA on when those 1040s and 1050s will materialize? Clearly they've already missed the "back to school" boat but can we definitely expect them to materialize in time for Black Friday?

I don't think there's even any rumors about what they could be.

 

[malcher]

I found 2 Clevos (15,6") with GTX1060 that differ only by CPUs. One has i7-6700HQ, the other i5-6600K. Does it makes sense to pay extra and go with that desktop CPU? Also is it actually safe from the power usage and heat standpoint?

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Holy shit I'm drooling at these new models. The performance gain is HUGE! My "new" MSI with a 970m am cry. Couldn't wait though, I had to have one by today pretty much with me moving back to school tomorrow. Waiting for the announcement, plus potential shipping was a no-go.

Guess I'll just have to save up and upgrade in a year or two, rather than go 3 or 4 years. Would be nice to get a Ghost Pro model next go around, rather than the bulkier Apache Pro. 970m is still pretty beastly and slightly better than (afaik) than the 750 Ti I was running in my desktop, so I won't be too unhappy I suppose.

 

[K.Jack]

GTX 1050 and 1040 will appear as soon as they're announced for desktops. I doubt it'll be long, as Nvidia needs to win that battleground quickly.

So with bottlenecking in mind, should I avoid the 1070 with the 6700HQ and go with the 6820 instead?

That is the safest bet, yes.

Hmm. I really don't know much about mobile processors. Think it's worth the extra $200 or so compared to the GT72 with the 6700HQ? Probably won't bother with overclocking, so don't know what the performance difference would be.

The whole point of the HK is pushing it up to 4Ghz or higher, giving the 1070 more room to breathe.

I found 2 Clevos (15,6") with GTX1060 that differ only by CPUs. One has i7-6700HQ, the other i5-6600K. Does it makes sense to pay extra and go with that desktop CPU? Also is it actually safe from the power usage and heat standpoint?

If you can afford it, taking the 6600K and overclocking is a no brainer. Yes, it's safe.

 

[xir]

will the razer be 1060 or 1070?

can any of these fit into a 13" laptop?

 

[midasmulligan]

GTX 1050 and 1040 will appear as soon as they're announced for desktops. I doubt it'll be long, as Nvidia needs to win that battleground quickly.



That is the safest bet, yes.


The whole point of the HK is pushing it up to 4Ghz or higher, giving the 1070 more room to breathe.

Only problem at this point is that most(all?) 1070s have the 6700. The aorus I want has the 6820 with a 1070, but it's with a 3k screen and no 120 refresh rate

 

[Fjordson]

GTX 1050 and 1040 will appear as soon as they're announced for desktops. I doubt it'll be long, as Nvidia needs to win that battleground quickly.



That is the safest bet, yes.


The whole point of the HK is pushing it up to 4Ghz or higher, giving the 1070 more room to breathe.



If you can afford it, taking the 6600K and overclocking is a no brainer. Yes, it's safe.

Thanks for the tip. Guess I'll get the GT73 then.

 

[CarbonatedFalcon]

Only a handful left in stock as of this post: Apache Pro GE62VR

Unless I got a Stealth Pro (which seems to be the rebranded Ghost Pro line), I'd probably get this model.

 

[mlewis]

Anyone know of anywhere in the UK selling these? Everywhere seems to just have the old models (with no reductions).

 

[SwiftDeath]

will the razer be 1060 or 1070?

can any of these fit into a 13" laptop?

1060 both because the 1060 is the successor to the 970m which was in the previous Razer blade and also because Linustechtips confirmed as much

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Went ahead and pre-ordered the msi 1060 $1500 laptop with a 3 year accident protection.

Most folks might say the accident protection is unnecessary but I have person experience with cracking the screen of one, and my dog dropping the other one off the sofa because he's a little shit.

Any recommendations for cooling pads? Or are they absolutely useless? I have one that should fit this smaller laptop and is USB powered, so I'm thinking that should be enough.

 

[Greatest Ever]

Worth mentioning since I sold my laptop and made this mistake: WATCH YOUR SAVES. Check which games you have have Steam Cloud storage, and make sure if you create a backup on another HDD that it has the game's saves.

RIP my Dark Souls 3 character.

 

[anddo0]

If you want the HK, you could always go GT73 instead.

Coming down to the wire, it's the GT73 or my customized Sager MP8173-s

NP8173-S Notebook

$2,014.00

Components
- 6th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-6820HK Processor ( 8MB Smart Cache, 2.70GHz) [+$125.00]
- 17.3" Full HD IPS Matte Display with G-SYNC Technology (1920 x 1080) Back Order! (ETA: 08/19/2016)
- Guaranteed no dead or partially-lit pixels for first 30 days of purchasing
- Nvidia GeForce GTX 1070 GPU with 8GB GDDR5 Video Memory
- IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU
- Windows® 10 Home 64-Bit Edition Preinstalled
- 16GB Dual Channel DDR4 SDRAM at 2400MHz - 2 X 8GB
- 512GB SanDisk X400 M.2 SSD - as an OS Drive (Primary Drive C) [+$75.00]
- 1TB 7200rpm SATA2 Hard Drive
- Killer™ Dual Band Wireless-AC 1535 M.2 AC Wireless LAN + Bluetooth Module [+$15.00]

Software & Services
- Sager 2 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty

If I go Sager, I'm buying direct. They're configuration is cheaper than Xotic

Edit: the MSI would cost $300 more at the same configuration

 

[Got the Shakes]

Might be time to sell my Surface Pro 4 and MacBook Pro and just buy one of these new 10 series laptops. Hmmm...

 

[Kieli]

Coming down to the wire, it's the GT73 or my customized Sager MP8173-s

NP8173-S Notebook



If I go Sager, I'm buying direct. They're configuration is cheaper than Xotic

thats a beastly computer. mad jelly

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

I made this thread and I could use some help on what to do.

Some quotes:

I wanted an Acer Aspire E 15. it's slated as the best affordable gaming laptop on the market. I've been watching these laptops all year. One problem is that Nvidia announced their 1000 line and are no longer putting them in laptops with an m version. The Acer Aspire E 15 has an 940 MX. I want something like this but for the 1000 line, but I'm not seeing any such updated Aspire with a 1060 yet.

Consider that laptop wise I'm coming from a Core 2 Duo 2.4 ghz and gtx 240m. So either one would be an upgrade for me.

I'm not sure if I should keep waiting for 1000 line to hit affordable laptops or just jump on the Aspire as it is now. Any plans on putting the 1000's in non high end laptops?

You will want to wait for 1040 or 1050(Ti). Those will debut at more budget prices, but pack enough power to warrant some serious gaming.

1060s won't go lower than $1300 US. They are already $1800 CAD.

So don't jump on the 940 MX by any means, wait for the 1040 or 1050 TI? I got you. I hope I don't have to wait too long. Been waiting for a new laptop all year but Nvidia's doing their 1000 rollout in laptops finally.

For what it's worth, but Acer laptop I want costs 700 dollars.

I think the 1040 will be right in your budget. I'm honestly excited at how it'll perform given how much the 60/70/80 pushed the performance envelope.

How long will it take for the 1040/50 to be a thing?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Worth mentioning since I sold my laptop and made this mistake: WATCH YOUR SAVES. Check which games you have have Steam Cloud storage, and make sure if you create a backup on another HDD that it has the game's saves.

RIP my Dark Souls 3 character.

Yep. Luckily Im not playing any game I need a save to stay except for maybe telltale games.

But those are cloud saved. I'm not selling my old laptop though, nobody is going to buy that with shitty audio, loud clacking noises that happens every now and then, and broken vents throughout.

 

[Fjordson]

Coming down to the wire, it's the GT73 or my customized Sager MP8173-s

NP8173-S Notebook



If I go Sager, I'm buying direct. They're configuration is cheaper than Xotic

Edit: the MSI would cost $300 more at the same configuration

Whew, this a great configuration. This is the 120Hz G-sync screen right?

I love MSI and have never owned a Sager, but the cheaper price here is hard to ignore.

 

[K.Jack]

will the razer be 1060 or 1070?

can any of these fit into a 13" laptop?

Razer will be 1060 at most.

There are 14" laptops with the 1060.

I haven't seen a 13" model with the 970M, so one with 1060 is doubtful.

Anyone know of anywhere in the UK selling these? Everywhere seems to just have the old models (with no reductions).

PCSpecialist is, just scroll to the bottom.

Coming down to the wire, it's the GT73 or my customized Sager MP8173-s

NP8173-S Notebook



If I go Sager, I'm buying direct. They're configuration is cheaper than Xotic

Edit: the MSI would cost $300 more at the same configuration

Sager looks cool.

One interesting thing about the GT73 is that you could add a second 1070 down the line.

 

[anddo0]

Whew, this a great configuration. This is the 120Hz G-sync screen right?

I love MSI and have never owned a Sager, but the cheaper price here is hard to ignore.

I'm not sure, outside of it being G-sync . I would assume it's no lower than 75hz.
The laptops labeled 120hz run $2450 and up, which would explain why the MSI GT73 is more expensive, as it comes with a 120hz screen, also includes Thunderbolt (Sager is 3.0 or type c) though I have no need for Thunderbolt.

 

[midasmulligan]

Doesn't look like any of the sager 15 inch models have 120hz refresh

 

[Fjordson]

I'm not sure, outside of it being G-sync . I would assume it's no lower than 75hz.
The laptops labeled 120hz run $2450 and up, which would explain why the MSI GT73 is more expensive, as it comes with a 120hz screen, also includes Thunderbolt (Sager is 3.0 or type c) though I have no need for Thunderbolt.

Interesting. May still go with the GT73 one then. There's this one with the 120Hz screen and the 6820hk for only $2199 http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-017.html

 

[hogendaz85]

Need advice

Im in need of a laptop. I dont play so much new games.

Play mainly blizzard games , LoL , some older games. I maybe wanna play some newer games. But i do not need to play them in ultra settings and super high res. Im playing them rather in high fps and lower settings.

Im thinking a laptop around 800-850USD. can i get a laptop with that money? Or do i need to put in more cash?

You can buy my laptop with a gtx 970m for $900. To answer your question you can get one for the range you asked probably would have a card like the 950m maybe 960m.

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

So no one knows when to expect the 1040/50 or if it's worth just saying fuck it and getting a 970m laptop now?

This is such a good looking piece of hardware.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WJSQRNK/?tag=neogaf0e-20

 

[K.Jack]

I made this thread and I could use some help on what to do.

How long will it take for the 1040/50 to be a thing?

We won't know anything until the desktop 1040 and 50 get announced.

Interesting. May still go with the GT73 one then. There's this one with the 120Hz screen and the 6820hk for only $2199 http://www.xoticpc.com/msi-gt73vr-titan-017.html

This and a 1TB SSD would be my choice, 120Hz is a must with cards this powerful.

 

[SlickVic]

Still trying to decide what I want to do. I currently have a Sager laptop with an 860m i7 4810mq and 8GB RAM. I feel I still get respectable performance out of it for the most part (Witcher 3 runs quite well on mix of med and high settings for example) but some game like Fallout 4 and The Division I find the performance less than ideal. I feel upcoming games may already be pushing the 860m towards the minimum specs and that has all tempted me to upgrade.

I initially was planning to just say screw it and get a beast desktop with a 1070, but I still need a laptop for work and travel and I can't really justify a $1000+ PC that would really just be used for gaming and not much else.

So the announcement of these laptops with 10 series GPUs that allegedly nearly match their desktop brothers has certainly piqued my interest. I'm now trying to decide if my needs are better served by a 1060 or 1070 laptop. Looking at Sagers it looks like 1060 laptops run about $1300 and 1070 about $1600 (really don't want to spend any more than that). My understanding is both these cards should be a major upgrade from an 860m. At this time I'm mostly looking to game at 1080p but not sure if that may change in a couple years. Most of these laptops seem to be paired with an i7 6700hq and I'm not sure if this would bottleneck the 1070 (or even 1060 for that matter). The i7 6820hk is available for more cash on some models, but I've personally never felt comfortable overclocking with laptops and not sure it's worth it in that case.

I'm also not sure how much I can get from selling my current laptop. I see some 860m laptops on eBay anywhere from $600-$1000 so I'm wondering if I can get at least $500 after fees and shipping costs on mine.

Apologies for the rambling thoughts. The new laptops have me excited and trying to decide if a 1060 is enough for me or whether I should just go with the 1070, both with i7 6700hq.

 

[SwiftDeath]

So no one knows when to expect the 1040/50 or if it's worth just saying fuck it and getting a 970m laptop now?

This is such a good looking piece of hardware.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WJSQRNK/?tag=neogaf0e-20

It's not worth it to buy a 970m laptop* right now

It is known

*New at least

 

[Fjordson]

This and a 1TB SSD would be my choice, 120Hz is a must with cards this powerful.

Yeah, leaning towards that setup.

Kinda weird that I can't find that configuration on other sites, though.

 

[midasmulligan]

Let me know if any of you gents find a config of my ideal machine while you're looking

-1080p
-120hz
-15in
-intel 6820
-1070 gpu

 

[Skel1ingt0n]

Any chance at all that Razer will surprise us with a g-sync option?

 

[Nere]

How much % in power difference will the laptop 1060 be compared to a 970m?

 

[K.Jack]

Let me know if any of you gents find a config of my ideal machine while you're looking

-1080p
ck-120hz
-15in
-intel 6820
-1070 gpu

So far, looks like there are no 120Hz 15" panels.

Any chance at all that Razer will surprise us with a g-sync option?

Anything is possible, I suppose.

How much % in power difference will the laptop 1060 be compared to a 970m?

1060 is around 61% faster, going off of the Notebookcheck benches.

 

[midasmulligan]

So far, looks like there are no 120Hz 15" panels.



Anything is possible, I suppose.



1060 is around 61% faster, going off of the Notebookcheck benches.

Except the 15 in aorus, just can't find it anywhere. Probably in the next wave of releases

 

[anddo0]

We won't know anything until the desktop 1040 and 50 get announced.



This and a 1TB SSD would be my choice, 120Hz is a must with cards this powerful.

Is gsync 75hz really that bad?

 

[j-wood]

Does that 14inch msi come with a gsync monitor? The one with the 1060?

I just bought the OLED Alienware with a 965m from best buy, so I could order the msi and return them Alienware.

But does the msi laptop come with a graphics amplifier like the Alienware? As good as the new 10 series cards are they WILL be outdated, so having that port on the Alienware is a nice future proofing thing.

 

[Kieli]

Does that 14inch msi come with a gsync monitor? The one with the 1060?

I just bought the OLED Alienware with a 965m from best buy, so I could order the msi and return them Alienware.

But does the msi laptop come with a graphics amplifier like the Alienware? As good as the new 10 series cards are they WILL be outdated, so having that port on the Alienware is a nice future proofing thing.

MSI uses MXM modules, which allow you to upgrade your GPU for what they guarantee is at least 2 generations. So that'll cover Volta in 2018 and Einstein in 202x.

Edit: Sorry, you'll have to check whether a particular trim offers MXM as not all of them well (for cost reasons)

 

[malcher]

I found 2 Clevos (15,6") with GTX1060 that differ only by CPUs. One has i7-6700HQ, the other i5-6600K. Does it makes sense to pay extra and go with that desktop CPU? Also is it actually safe from the power usage and heat standpoint?

If you can afford it, taking the 6600K and overclocking is a no brainer. Yes, it's safe.

Thanks for the answer. I dug deeper into it and the 6600K laptop has chipset HM170 Express. The tutorials I found all say that overclocking is only possible on Z170 chipsets and not on H170. I don't know if HM170 is the same as H170. Does it mean that i5-6600K wouldn't be overclockable? If not, is it still better option that i7-6700HQ?

 

[Secret Fawful]

I'm really considering the GT73VR, but should I wait to see what Alienware or Razer have as options? Which is better between them and MSI?

 

[General_Frags]

I'm really considering the GT73VR, but should I wait to see what Alienware or Razer have as options? Which is better between them and MSI?

Alienware's refresh is in October, called them up earlier. The Razer has the 1060 and maybe on sale from September/October.

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I'm really considering the GT73VR, but should I wait to see what Alienware or Razer have as options? Which is better between them and MSI?

Not 100% sure but I feel Alienware tends to be more overpriced. Not sure about Razer though.

Having owned MSI before I went with the 14'' 1060 laptop.

 

[JamesBenson]

Hey sorry if I'm being lazy or stupid, but:

I'm having trouble finding a new pascal laptop with:

1080 gpu, 120Hz, and it would be cool to have 1440p but thats not a huge deal, mostly I want the 120Hz and 1080 (SLI would be interesting but not that huge a deal), and biggest screen possible

I keep seeing references to these machines, but never an actual store page,

any help greatly appreciated

 

[K.Jack]

Still trying to decide what I want to do. I currently have a Sager laptop with an 860m i7 4810mq and 8GB RAM. I feel I still get respectable performance out of it for the most part (Witcher 3 runs quite well on mix of med and high settings for example) but some game like Fallout 4 and The Division I find the performance less than ideal. I feel upcoming games may already be pushing the 860m towards the minimum specs and that has all tempted me to upgrade.

I initially was planning to just say screw it and get a beast desktop with a 1070, but I still need a laptop for work and travel and I can't really justify a $1000+ PC that would really just be used for gaming and not much else.

So the announcement of these laptops with 10 series GPUs that allegedly nearly match their desktop brothers has certainly piqued my interest. I'm now trying to decide if my needs are better served by a 1060 or 1070 laptop. Looking at Sagers it looks like 1060 laptops run about $1300 and 1070 about $1600 (really don't want to spend any more than that). My understanding is both these cards should be a major upgrade from an 860m. At this time I'm mostly looking to game at 1080p but not sure if that may change in a couple years. Most of these laptops seem to be paired with an i7 6700hq and I'm not sure if this would bottleneck the 1070 (or even 1060 for that matter). The i7 6820hk is available for more cash on some models, but I've personally never felt comfortable overclocking with laptops and not sure it's worth it in that case.

I'm also not sure how much I can get from selling my current laptop. I see some 860m laptops on eBay anywhere from $600-$1000 so I'm wondering if I can get at least $500 after fees and shipping costs on mine.

Apologies for the rambling thoughts. The new laptops have me excited and trying to decide if a 1060 is enough for me or whether I just go with the 1070, both with i7 6700hq.

First off, to help you see where you currently sit, the 860M is a downclocked GTX 750 Ti. You literally have identical hardware. So looking at benches that compare a 1070 or 60 to the 750 Ti will give you a good feel of how big the upgrade is, and help you decide on which massive leap you will more prefer.

It's still early, so I don't know to what extent a 6700HQ, running at its max 3.1Ghz, will or won't bottleneck the 1070. I'm sure it's not likely to affect the 1060 much.

$500 or $600 sounds reasonable.

Does that 14inch msi come with a gsync monitor? The one with the 1060?

I just bought the OLED Alienware with a 965m from best buy, so I could order the msi and return them Alienware.

But does the msi laptop come with a graphics amplifier like the Alienware? As good as the new 10 series cards are they WILL be outdated, so having that port on the Alienware is a nice future proofing thing.

The biggest issue with the Alienware, and why I'd return it, is because it's running an Ultra-Low Voltage (ULV) dual core. Even the GTX 965M will be bottlenecked to death, so running a desktop chip seems pointless. We dumped dual cores in like 2009 fam, let it go.

The GS43 has a Thunderbolt 3 port, so any eGPU solution will be compatible.

I'm really considering the GT73VR, but should I wait to see what Alienware or Razer have as options? Which is better between them and MSI?

Alienware and Razer are always late to the party.

I'll always ride with MSI.

Hey sorry if I'm being lazy or stupid, but:

I'm having trouble finding a new pascal laptop with:

1080 gpu, 120Hz, and it would be cool to have 1440p but thats not a huge deal, mostly I want the 120Hz and 1080 (SLI would be interesting but not that huge a deal), and biggest screen possible

I keep seeing references to these machines, but never an actual store page,

any help greatly appreciated

MSI GT73 w/ GTX 1080 and 120Hz

 

[hobz360]

Hey sorry if I'm being lazy or stupid, but:

I'm having trouble finding a new pascal laptop with:

1080 gpu, 120Hz, and it would be cool to have 1440p but thats not a huge deal, mostly I want the 120Hz and 1080 (SLI would be interesting but not that huge a deal), and biggest screen possible

I keep seeing references to these machines, but never an actual store page,

any help greatly appreciated

MSI's GT73VR Titan Pro? And if you want to go bonkers and go with a 1080 SLI: MSI GT83VR TITAN SLI

MSI GT73VR NVIDIA GTX 1080 Review & Benchmarks

MSI GT62VR Full Detailed Review w/ Benchmarks (Nvidia GTX 1070)

Edit: K.Jack beat me lol Really looking into getting a GT73 though, mah gawd.

 

[j-wood]

So k jack, if I return that Alienware, how's this one? I know it's probably a few bucks more than. Amazon, but I want to use the 12 month no interest on this.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/msi-15-...03.p?id=bb5515003&skuId=5515003#bundle-offers

 

[derFeef]

The SC17 is going to cost a fortune, isn't it? Maaan.
http://www.evga.com/articles/01044/evga-sc17-1070-laptop/