Burgess_101
Member
I am running in exclusive full screen.
I get anywhere between 30-60 frames at 1080p. Can't remember at 1440p.
On a mixture of high-ultra I get between 15-30 at 1440p.
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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided PC performance thread
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I am running in exclusive full screen.
I get anywhere between 30-60 frames at 1080p. Can't remember at 1440p.
On a mixture of high-ultra I get between 15-30 at 1440p.
I have a 1080 now, otherwise it probably wouldn't look quite as great
(I also probably wouldn't be targeting 60 FPS)
There's clearly something wrong. Did you try disabling SLI for testing? What's your CPU and CPU usage?
Ohhh, that's why you're downsampling from 1440p! Didn't make sense to me that one could do that with a 970 and get 60fps with those visuals hahahaI have a 1080 now, otherwise it probably wouldn't look quite as great
(I also probably wouldn't be targeting 60 FPS)
What's your CPU? OS? I don't think a GTX 1080 would help at all based on your findings.
Computerbase measured 39 FPS at 1440p on a 390 non-x. At Ultra! (without MSAA)
No idea what's going on here.
Allnamestakenlol
Member
Weird. My 3570k is running at 4.6 and I have sli 980ti's, but I don't see CPU usage go over 60-70% much, whereas my cards are generally at around 80-90% in Prague. No msaa, and settings are a mix of 'on', very high and ultra.
Edit: Also, 16gb ram and running at 1440p
Burgess_101
Member
You won't believe this and I apologise for my idiocy and wasting everyone's time. For some reason I looked over the fact that Afterburner had reset all the values to their lowest.
I am not the sharpest tool in the box after work... I work in IT too, I'll sack myself.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
I have a 1080 now, otherwise it probably wouldn't look quite as great
(I also probably wouldn't be targeting 60 FPS)
There's clearly something wrong. Did you try disabling SLI for testing? What's your CPU and CPU usage?
Well, I think I have had an "aha!" Moment. I just don't know how to fix it.
Running in windowed mode, as soon as I get in game, my 3770k is down clocking all he way down to 899mhz to 1199mhz, and barely any utilization. As soon as I exit the game, boom, back up to normal speeds.
Help!
I agree, I've caught myself just looking at the SSR for a minute a few times.
Like here:
At least you figured it out! Have fun with the game.
Burgess_101
Member
Thanks for pushing me in the right direction, it's much appreciated.
Great!
Now we'll fix this as well and this will be the most productive page of the thread. We still have quite a few posts left.
Try this (open the windows power options, select the high performance plan, and set the minimum processor state to 100%):
I had my Shadercache off in the Nvidia control panel, but with the frequent asset load stutter I was getting in the game's hub, I thought I'd test with Shadercache on...
I started my "lap" (depicted in the below screen), making a left, and looping all the way back to where I began. Took about 50 seconds sprinting each time:
And now the frametime differences (bottom readout), remember, all I changed between these was Shadercache from off to on:
Shadercache off (left), Shadercache on (right). Both identical runs/settings.
This is probably a moot point, seeing as the majority of Nvidia users probably already have it on (which is default), but for those of us who disabled it, nice to know it may actually be doing something.
I started my "lap" (depicted in the below screen), making a left, and looping all the way back to where I began. Took about 50 seconds sprinting each time:
And now the frametime differences (bottom readout), remember, all I changed between these was Shadercache from off to on:
Shadercache off (left), Shadercache on (right). Both identical runs/settings.
This is probably a moot point, seeing as the majority of Nvidia users probably already have it on (which is default), but for those of us who disabled it, nice to know it may actually be doing something.
Snacks the sober sea lion
Member
So download is way busted. I've tried clearing the cache, changing download region, unchecking dlc, restarting Steam 20 times, it just won't continue. It gets stuck every time and stops the download.
RenderJosh
Member
That would also explained the very low temp for a 970, no way it is running at full speed (mine is around 70-73°C with the fan at 70%).
Try getting your other 970 out of your computer, uninstall properly your driver and reinstall the latest, be sure that there is not custom made profile or software that would prevent the GPU to go at full speed.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Great!
Now we'll fix this as well and this will be the most productive page of the thread. We still have quite a few posts left.
Try this (open the windows power options, select the high performance plan, and set the minimum processor state to 100%):
Hope so!
Ah, my setting was already set to High performence and 100%.
Edit:Okay, CPU temp is hitting 104c during the Bioshock Infinite bench according to EVGA Precision X. But for some reason Performence is not affected.. That has to be it right?
The CPU Fan is working fine, all case fans are fine, side of case is off, and it's 20 degrees C in my place.
Acupunctur3
Member
Alright guys, I have a couple of SLI Compatibility bits for you to try. These worked for me:
Everything on Ultra, No MSAA
Drivers: 372.54
Benchmark:
Compatability bits 0x080040F5 (Great performance, but flickering in HUD and mini map)
Average: 58.2
Min 46.3
Max: 72.5
Compatability bits 0x2C0120F5 (seems to work so far, no issues)
Average 52.7
Min: 43.9
Max: 61.3
Baseline SLI:
Average: 46.7
Minimum: 31.5
Max: 53.9
Rig:
i7 Extreme 5960x CPU
Overclock Speed: 4.4 Ghz CPU
Cooler: Corsair H110Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR4Memory Speed: 3000
Video Card(s): Titan X Pascal SLI
PSU: EVGA 1600W Platinum
Hard Drive(s): Samsung 850 1TB SSD
Optical Drives: LG Blu-Ray
Operating System: Windows 10 Anniverary
Everything on Ultra, No MSAA
Drivers: 372.54
Benchmark:
Compatability bits 0x080040F5 (Great performance, but flickering in HUD and mini map)
Average: 58.2
Min 46.3
Max: 72.5
Compatability bits 0x2C0120F5 (seems to work so far, no issues)
Average 52.7
Min: 43.9
Max: 61.3
Baseline SLI:
Average: 46.7
Minimum: 31.5
Max: 53.9
Rig:
i7 Extreme 5960x CPU
Overclock Speed: 4.4 Ghz CPU
Cooler: Corsair H110Memory:
Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR4Memory Speed: 3000
Video Card(s): Titan X Pascal SLI
PSU: EVGA 1600W Platinum
Hard Drive(s): Samsung 850 1TB SSD
Optical Drives: LG Blu-Ray
Operating System: Windows 10 Anniverary
Great!
Now we'll fix this as well and this will be the most productive page of the thread. We still have quite a few posts left.
Try this (open the windows power options, select the high performance plan, and set the minimum processor state to 100%):
Yep, what Durante said. Setting the power scheme to "high performance" should do the trick no matter what the processor state setting happens to be. My 5820K's minimum power state is 5% and still boosts to 4.5Ghz in games. In any case, I am sure you'll get it figured out soon.
Oh, nevermind the previous comment then. Have you reseated the heat sink fan recently?
Yes, must be thermal throttling. Not sure why though. Maybe re-seat your heatsink?
It's more performance intensive than any part of the game I've encountered so far. By a good chunk too.
broncobuster
Banned
How indicative is the benchmark to in-game performance?
970, 4770k, 1200p at default high settings is high 40 average. Thought my CPU could be the problem but, at least for the benchmark, dropping cloth and lod haven't affected it.
970, 4770k, 1200p at default high settings is high 40 average. Thought my CPU could be the problem but, at least for the benchmark, dropping cloth and lod haven't affected it.
RenderJosh
Member
Smells like a CPU Thermal Throttle. Is the same thing happening while you play DX ? (I does not exactly explained the GPU usage but that would be a start)
Seems the game is very clock sensitive. Those + 0.4 Ghz are making the difference in my honest opinion. There was another guy with 80% CPU utilization but he had + 0.2 Ghz more than me.
So after some tweaking and disabling all the borked settings I'm getting 60fps at 1080p with TSAA:
Textures: Ultra
AF: 16x
Shadows: High
AO: On
CHS: Off
POM: High
DoF: Very High
LOD: Very High
Volumetric Lighting: Ultra
SSR: Ultra
Bloom, CA and Sharpening off.
This is on a Gigabyte G1 1070, 16GB RAM and a 6600K.
Textures: Ultra
AF: 16x
Shadows: High
AO: On
CHS: Off
POM: High
DoF: Very High
LOD: Very High
Volumetric Lighting: Ultra
SSR: Ultra
Bloom, CA and Sharpening off.
This is on a Gigabyte G1 1070, 16GB RAM and a 6600K.
It's hard to say if that in itself could make your system more prone to crashes. For reference, I'm on W10 x64 anniversary, Nvidia 372.54 drivers, running significantly overclocked CPU/GPU/RAM, and it has yet to crash on me. Played for about 8h so far.
It actually would explain the GPU usage, the CPU running at ~1GHz obviously can't keep the GPU fed.
System;
W10 Anniversary Update
Nvidia 372.54 drivers
i5 6600K @ 4,4GHz
16GB
980Ti
Game at random gives me BSOD with error "Driver-irql-not-less-or-equal". There doesn't seem to be any specific thing triggering crash and it just happens after X minutes / hours of gameplay. Or maybe it doesn't happen. Pure randomness in getting that crash. I have tried fiddling with options, but nothing doesn't seem to prevent crashes.
#FeelsBadMan
I'm thinking you may have OC settings that are no longer stable due to OS and graphics driver updates? Have you tried running everything at stock speeds for a while to make sure? I had to tweak my Titan XP's OC slightly to work with 372.54.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
So I tried a little program called "full throttle" which attempts to override even the windows settings apparently.
It worked to some degree, getting about 2-2.5ghz out of my 3770k, but the temps were still at 103c..
Was able to crank up the graphical settings and get a playable frame rate at 1440p though.
Going to try and reseat the heatsink and hope that works? At least now the source of the problem has been identified. Wierd that this did not effect performance in games like Wild Hunt, Titanfall or Bioshock no?
It worked to some degree, getting about 2-2.5ghz out of my 3770k, but the temps were still at 103c..
Was able to crank up the graphical settings and get a playable frame rate at 1440p though.
Going to try and reseat the heatsink and hope that works? At least now the source of the problem has been identified. Wierd that this did not effect performance in games like Wild Hunt, Titanfall or Bioshock no?
If your system BSODs it must be either the hardware, the OS, or a driver. It can't really be any game or other user-level software unless one of theose three components malfunctions.
Have you tried reducing your CPU OC to see if that affects your crashes? (I actually had to reduce mine after getting a BSOD in this game -- none in the 8 hours since then)
Saiyan-Rox
Member
any recommendations for a stableish run on a 980 guys? (with a skylake i7 and 16gb DDR4)
I know it's probably come up but I know I can't run this at max so just wondering what I should go for right away.
I know it's probably come up but I know I can't run this at max so just wondering what I should go for right away.
I've freezed twice in the last 20 mins or so (still on the intro level (dubai) as I'm taking my time lol)
Says error 0x887a0006 before the driver recovers and the game force quit. Anyone got this error before or know any solution?
Running i7 5820k @4ghz, 980ti, 16gb ram, win 10 non anniversary, 372.54 driver, playing full screen @ 1440p.
I tried to keep my settings to highs and very highs, turned off msaa and chs. Not sure what else I can do besides quicksaving every few mins. :\
(still on the intro level (dubai) as I'm taking my time lol) Says error 0x887a0006 before the driver recovers and the game force quit. Anyone got this error before or know any solution?
Running i7 5820k @4ghz, 980ti, 16gb ram, win 10 non anniversary, 372.54 driver, playing full screen @ 1440p.
I tried to keep my settings to highs and very highs, turned off msaa and chs. Not sure what else I can do besides quicksaving every few mins. :\
I am having the exact same problem with my 390X. The game ran fine up until I got to the Prague hub area, and now my FPS has tanks below 10 and is unplayable. All other games work perfectly fine.
Edit: Here is what Afterburner is reporting
The first half shows sporadic GPU usage when the game was running at 60fps (though it was choppy/stuttering). The GPU Usage and Core Clock drop down to near zero, and my performance goes to shit and does not return.
I haven't OC'd GPU at all, but lowered CPU from 4,4 to 4,2. Will test now and report back.
Relentless 757
Member
I've been getting severe fps drops(as low as 6 fps) that result in short freezes in the second area of Prague. When this occurs, I've noticed my gpu usage drops to less than 60%(A few times it even said 0%). My cpu usage ranges from 70-100%, but sticks around 80-90% most of the time. Temps for gpu and cpu are fine as well.
my specs are
gtx 960 4gb
i5-3570k 3.6GHz
8GB RAM
I'm using a mix of high and medium settings. I have texture resolution set to high, but this has occurred even when I select the low preset before launching the game.
And another thing, loading screens are horrible for me. I loaded my game and went to go make food and by the time I got back the game was still loading. Loading screens aren't that big of an issue for me, but when it takes 5+ minutes just to quit to the main menu, I get a bit irritated.
my specs are
gtx 960 4gb
i5-3570k 3.6GHz
8GB RAM
I'm using a mix of high and medium settings. I have texture resolution set to high, but this has occurred even when I select the low preset before launching the game.
And another thing, loading screens are horrible for me. I loaded my game and went to go make food and by the time I got back the game was still loading. Loading screens aren't that big of an issue for me, but when it takes 5+ minutes just to quit to the main menu, I get a bit irritated.
RenderJosh
Member
Ha, now that you mentionned it, 1GHz might indeed not be fast enough and the GPU will not have enough data sent by the CPU to process, hence the low usage/temp. Never encounter such a situation myself but it makes sense.
I actually think I saw these kind of claims in many AAA games performance threads, people managing to run my game at max setting and on one particular game being unable to go past even 30FPS at the lowest setting possible. Always wondered what could be the cause.
I thought about driver issue but since it usually happened with few people, that would be strange.
What's the hit on Ultra SSR over regular SSR? Those screenshots look sexy.
From my tests, I think more elements can be reflected on more types of surfaces, not only liquids for example. The performance hit will depend a lot of the scene. In some, there might be barely no difference in performance, while in others, a 5-10FPS difference is possible.
Cool, looks like I'll have to try it. I usually hover between 70-80, which I would like to keep since it feels much better with a mouse than 60.
On the subject of SSR, have you or anyone else noticed some quirks in the way Ultra SSR depicts reflections on some surfaces?
For instance:
SSR "On."
SSR "Ultra."
If you take a look at the crosswalk there in the Ultra screen (especially the fourth painted line from the right), the reflections there look a little wonky, like it's tripling the reflection of the line, overlapping itself, and then stretching vertically into the void; I've never see a refelection like that in real life.
Beyond that however, the clarity/resolution of reflections with "Ultra" enabled is undoubtedly better when compare to "On."
paperspace
Member
Why on earth would anyone do this? It has to be some kind of mistake, right?
What's your definition of handle? 4K on a 980Ti isn't that feasible on new games even if you're just going for 30fps.
It's especially dumb in a game like this were you will constantly pick stuff up from the ground or look up to search for passages.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
It runs in the high 20s and the mouse controls feel terrible as a result.
RenderJosh
Member
What are your settings ? Where you actually expecting the game to run well in such a high resolution using high to ultra settings ?
I agree, I've caught myself just looking at the SSR for a minute a few times.
Like here:
At least you figured it out! Have fun with the game.
Looks like a PS3 game, should run at 300FPS...but I get 40. Bullshit port.
Peterthumpa
Member
Not sure if serious.
icecold1983
Member
They did the same shit in Human Revolution also. I don't know who is in charge over there or how the hell they have their computer set up, but it's just straight up wrong.