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Super Mario Run announced for iOS (Android later), Dec 2016, Screens/Info in OP

Roders5

Iwata een bom zal droppen
How? Seriously, how?

Sometimes I just don't understand people.

It's probably because you aren't very bright. Look at when it was posted, Miyamoto himself had just appeared on stage at an Apple conference out of nowhere and said Mario was coming to iPhone, that's not big gaming news on a gaming forum?
 

TheJoRu

Member
It's not F2P, it's P2P (although you do get to try the first few levels for free, I think).

I called it F2P because it is indeed a free initial download, so it's possible to play it for free, even if limited. Though I guess Iwata's "free-to-start" would be the most accurate term if anything.
 

dickroach

Member
Is there any data on how much money Sonic Dash has brought in for Sega? I see like 150million downloads but have no idea how that translates to actual rings
 
It's probably because you aren't very bright. Look at when it was posted, Miyamoto himself had just appeared on stage at an Apple conference out of nowhere and said Mario was coming to iPhone, that's not big gaming news on a gaming forum?

Um...I think he was referring to the "didn't see that coming" part. As in, it was expected when Nintendo announced it was developing mobile games that a Mario game would be one of them, more than likely in runner form...
 

CrisKre

Member
Watching the news all over traditional media websites and all of them talking about iPhone 7 and Mario :') Such an excellent idea to present Mario's first mobile game in this way. I still can't believe we saw Miyamoto in an Apple event...

Nintendo is making some really great and efficient marketing choices lately. Hope that continues with the NX announcement. (please announce the damn thing now?)
 

NOLA_Gaffer

Banned
This is a very bad move by Nintendo. If I can play Mario on my phone, why would I ever buy their consoles? Good job killing the NX before it's even out Nintendo.

I guess Nintendo really is its own worst enemy

If a endless runner-style game satiates your need for Mario, you weren't buying Nintendo's hardware anyway.
 
This is a very bad move by Nintendo. If I can play Mario on my phone, why would I ever buy their consoles? Good job killing the NX before it's even out Nintendo.

I guess Nintendo really is its own worst enemy

1) This game will revitalize lapsed Nintendo customers, especially those who haven't played Nintendo games since they were young. Generates revenue stream from these customers who will probably never buy a proper game console.
2) The hand-me-down affect of parents giving their kids iPhones means Nintendo can now reach kids again with their IP. This is hugely important for the ongoing relevance and mindshare of Nintendo IPs with new generations.
3) This is a simple version of Mario. It's not directly competing with the traditional Mario games; it's simply a halo product that can attract new customers and keep their IP in the minds of consumers.
4) Will change nothing for existing core gamers. Those who want an NX will still buy, those that don't, won't.
 
Nintendo are gonna have to do a lot to make their NX exclusive games look worth buying the console for. If they push out NSMBU type stuff, people will not be able to discern the difference between that and their $60 titles and say "what's the point?"

Even games like DKC Tropical Freeze and Yoshi's Woolly World, as much as I love those games and 2D platformers in general, if Nintendo don't get aggressive with making their franchise look AAA material, they will fade into obscurity.

Unless they go third party and exclusively make Mario, Zelda, Smash, and Pokémon games that is. Not gonna happen though.
 
Nintendo is making some really great and efficient marketing choices lately. Hope that continues with the NX announcement. (please announce the damn thing now?)

Agreed. Pokemon Go, Mario at the closing ceremony of the Olympics, and now a Mario iPhone announcement at an extremely popular event. I'm not sure what Nintendo can do next to top all that publicity.
 
For me the only thing disappointing about this is that it doesn't come off as particularly innovative, just kind of copy-cat, since runner if already an established thing on mobile. I understand it's important to adapt Mario gameplay to mobile, but I would have hoped Nintendo could have come up with something more unique and clever for their star mascot.
 
It's probably because you aren't very bright. Look at when it was posted, Miyamoto himself had just appeared on stage at an Apple conference out of nowhere and said Mario was coming to iPhone, that's not big gaming news on a gaming forum?

But isn't it expected?

Nintendo is releasing NX soon which is a mobile device. They've also been moving to mobile gaming nowadays with Pokemon Go as their recent success. It's just common sense if Mario and every other IPs they have are coming to iOS/Android. How is this a surprise?
 

CrisKre

Member
Agreed. Pokemon Go, Mario at the closing ceremony of the Olympics, and now a Mario iPhone announcement at an extremely popular event. I'm not sure what Nintendo can do next to top all that publicity.

I would add the choice of having only Zelda playable at E3 as well. That worked out fantastic for them, and most put them on BLAST for it initially.
 

pringles

Member
For me the only thing disappointing about this is that it doesn't come off as particularly innovative, just kind of copy-cat, since runner if already an established thing on mobile. I understand it's important to adapt Mario gameplay to mobile, but I would have hoped Nintendo could have come up with something more unique and clever for their star mascot.
Pokemon Go wasn't unique either, sometimes it's enough to be the best. And I have no doubt this will blow every other mobile "runner" out of the water.
 
Pokemon GO demonstrate the power of a well-known IP (Pokémon) on an already existing game mechanic (Ingress) so my guess is this game will be pretty good received even if it's another Runner as there are plenty of them on the Mobile Gaming market.
 

Roders5

Iwata een bom zal droppen
Um...I think he was referring to the "didn't see that coming" part. As in, it was expected when Nintendo announced it was developing mobile games that a Mario game would be one of them, more than likely in runner form...

Um....most people on the first page were posting didn't see that coming. As in Miyamoto had just stepped out on stage at an Apple conference with no prior leaks....
 

CrisKre

Member
For me the only thing disappointing about this is that it doesn't come off as particularly innovative, just kind of copy-cat, since runner if already an established thing on mobile. I understand it's important to adapt Mario gameplay to mobile, but I would have hoped Nintendo could have come up with something more unique and clever for their star mascot.

I think it looks like it may play quite differently from whats out there. I like Rayman, for example, but the two buttons on screen kinda mess with the experience for me. I keep missing the damn things and its frustrating. The fact that the screen is horizontal and all that real state is the jump button at the bottom is really really smart. Also, it seems to have quite a bit of gameplay variety via the different floor pads. It seems like better design than other runners out there by a significant ammount.
 

Madame M

Banned
Looking forward to Metroid Picross and Paper Mario: Record Keeper for iOS and the death of all that is good and human about this world
 
Nintendo are gonna have to do a lot to make their NX exclusive games look worth buying the console for. If they push out NSMBU type stuff, people will not be able to discern the difference between that and their $60 titles and say "what's the point?"

Even games like DKC Tropical Freeze and Yoshi's Woolly World, as much as I love those games and 2D platformers in general, if Nintendo don't get aggressive with making their franchise look AAA material, they will fade into obscurity.

Unless they go third party and exclusively make Mario, Zelda, Smash, and Pokémon games that is. Not gonna happen though.

The way I see it going is that their mobile games are essentially a, for lack of better term, dick tease for the real game on NX. Give people a taste of the Mario universe and mechanics on a platform that, by definition, cannot do it full justice. Those who love it enough will get the proprietary hardware and full game. The trick is to make Super Mario Go fun in its own right, but leave you wanting more.
 
It's over, period. Nintendo lost their last ace, and that's the end of their NX hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Nintendo. Nintendo has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a Nintendo system. Except if they want to play Zelda. Which will also come to mobile at some point.

The age of Nintendo is done.
 
It's over, period. Nintendo lost their last ace, and that's the end of their NX hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Nintendo. Nintendo has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a Nintendo system. Except if they want to play Zelda. Which will also come to mobile at some point.

The age of Nintendo is done.

I hope this is a serious post. It's Legendary!
 

HF2014

Member
This is a very bad move by Nintendo. If I can play Mario on my phone, why would I ever buy their consoles? Good job killing the NX before it's even out Nintendo.

I guess Nintendo really is its own worst enemy

Cmon, its a Mario game that doesnt play like a Mario game but play like all those annoying run ios games. There is no reason i would buy a ios device over a NX to play a run game with Mario universe. Im pretty sure they cash in big time with Apple deal. Not saying this game will suck, but it will be a casual game you can play 10-15 minutes and turn it off. Nintendo only expand their universe, not seeing why i wont need other nintendo device over this ios game.
 
It's over, period. Nintendo lost their last ace, and that's the end of their NX hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Nintendo. Nintendo has nothing left, nothing they can reveal tomorrow would fix the hole now created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a Nintendo system. Except if they want to play Zelda. Which will also come to mobile at some point.

The age of Nintendo is done.

Please be serious. God I need to save this post. We can use it for so many situations. It's the new "I'm a expert"!
 
I hope this is a serious post. It's Legendary!
Please be serious. God I need to save this post. We can use it for so many situations. It's the new "I'm a expert"!

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lupinko

Member
This is a very bad move by Nintendo. If I can play Mario on my phone, why would I ever buy their consoles? Good job killing the NX before it's even out Nintendo.

I guess Nintendo really is its own worst enemy

They're not the same game?

And regardless of touch screen advancements, they will never replace physical controls.
 
I'm glad it doesn't looks like they spent too much time on this.

Even the backgrounds are the same from NSMU.

I hope it comes to Android within three months. I don't use tablets and don't use Apple either.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Looking forward to Metroid Picross and Paper Mario: Record Keeper for iOS and the death of all that is good and human about this world

I'll take any version of Picross I can get, thank you very much.
 
Please be serious. God I need to save this post. We can use it for so many situations. It's the new "I'm a expert"!

Think it's based on an old Amir0x post about FFXIII coming to 360. Speaking of which, whatever happened to him?

EDIT: Seems he doesn't post (much?) on the Gaming side anymore

BRB eating crow along with 90% of the people in this thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1254684

Well you don't have to since it's not an "endless" runner :p
 

Branduil

Member
"People won't buy real Mario if they can play mobile Mario" seems like a poor argument after Pokemon GO increased Pokemon sales.

Obviously a lot of people will be satisfied to just play SMR, but... those people were never going to buy a real Mario anyway, so having at least a chance to make money off of those people is an improvement for Nintendo. And like with Pokemon GO, at least some of the people who play this will probably want to move on to a real Mario game.
 

wheapon

Member
I see this doing pretty well provided it has a reasonable monetization model. I feel like the point of these releases is to get more people interested in nintendo IP and to at least extract some money from them while they're there even if you can't fully convert them. It's a solid plan.
 

Roders5

Iwata een bom zal droppen
Think it's based on an old Amir0x post about FFXIII coming to 360. Speaking of which, whatever happened to him?

Made an absolute ass of himself (even more than usual) by editing old posts to win an argument when someone called him out on something. Got his mod status removed and probably disappeared in shame.
 

CrisKre

Member
"People won't buy real Mario if they can play mobile Mario" seems like a poor argument after Pokemon GO increased Pokemon sales.

Obviously a lot of people will be satisfied to just play SMR, but... those people were never going to buy a real Mario anyway, so having at least a chance to make money off of those people is an improvement for Nintendo. And like with Pokemon GO, at least some of the people who play this will probably want to move on to a real Mario game.

This is really a great point. The game seems to have 6 worlds, 4 courses each. Not the lomgest of games. IF its really fun and resonates with users, it may be the perfect introduction to more full fledged experiences and I could see kids asking their parents for a Nintendo machine for chrismas or birthdays.

Worst case scenario, people that wouldn´t consider getting a dedicated system will be sending money Nintendo´s way, and if its a quality product the value and brand awareness of the company will shoot up because of it.
 

lenovox1

Member
Why does everyone hate a genre they've never played?

I only say that because the Rayman games and Bit.Trip are both really good, and no one would be that disappointed if that's what their frame of reference was.
 
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So, why is the screen vertical? 40% of the screen is the ground texture in most of these shots.

What do game companies have against phones being held sideways? Y'know, so it more closely resembles a TV while giving you more room in a game that moves horizontally?
 
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