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Pokémon Mafia |OT| Gotta Catch Em’ Scum!

Sawneeks

Banned
btw, Splinter, my reread is taking longer than I thought and I actually have to leave soon to go take care of some things. I plan to get some of my reads up tonight but I won't have time to look for the people you pointed out. Sorry. ;__;
 

SalvaPot

Member
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Part 1.

Part 2.

SalvaPot [m]

Started a brief discussion on game mechanics (i.e Pokemon Trainers) but I can find very little else of relevance or content in this entire thread from Salva. While that itself doesn’t mean he’s scum, it is rather frustrating to witness and wastes time if Salva is town. Null, Salva gonna Salva.

Sawneeks [f]

Only played with her once in PiS where admittedly I had her as scum throughout the game although she was town. We butted head several times and she really pushed me to think and analyze everything said. Quick to latch onto the Triangle debate, but that’s not really damning in of itself. Definitely one of our discussion leaders early on in the thread. However, I feel like something is off. She was unfocused and a bit all over the place. I’m a little troubled. Leaning Town but with hesitations.

Sophia [f]

Everybody wants to talk about her. Despite the dogpiling and namedropping I feel that Sophia is contributing to the discussion at large, no allowing herself to get sidetracked and bringing attention to things and plodding people to engage and post. She, as well Sawneeks have been fueling much of the conversations and pulling for everyone to participant. I have seen little to form an opinion of anything but Town.

*Splinter [m]

An unexpected (but so expected) surprise debut. My read here is messy. Full disclosure time -- I’m still bitter that Splinter has been scum in both of the last two games we’ve been in and even though I noticed something was off I dismissed it as being paranoid. Therefore, I’m reserving judgment until I can compile more evidence.
Classified.

StanleyPalmtree [m]

Stanley from the moment go has been uncharacteristically activity and prepared to scum hunt. This could be attributed the very recent bitter defeat in the Prices is Right game in part due to CM, who as previously mentioned decided to rub salts on those recent wounds. Overall, I’m liking this new and improved Stanley. Leaning Town.
 

Ty4on

Member
Sophia [f]

Everybody wants to talk about her. Despite the dogpiling and namedropping I feel that Sophia is contributing to the discussion at large, no allowing herself to get sidetracked and bringing attention to things and plodding people to engage and post. She, as well Sawneeks have been fueling much of the conversations and pulling for everyone to participant. I have seen little to form an opinion of anything but Town.
I feel like this read could have been made of me in Danny Phantom.

Why did you bring up Sawneeks when your read of her is more shaky?
 

Ty4on

Member
*Splinter [m]

An unexpected (but so expected) surprise debut. My read here is messy. Full disclosure time -- I’m still bitter that Splinter has been scum in both of the last two games we’ve been in and even though I noticed something was off I dismissed it as being paranoid. Therefore, I’m reserving judgment until I can compile more evidence.
Classified.
I would love to get this as well. Some of my first games were with scum!Splinter.
 
Because I'm developing reads on everyone. I think it is beneficial to have some basis on everyone to track throughout the game, especially with such a large cast, as early as possible.

I'm not sure I understand your question/statement about Splinter.
 

Ty4on

Member
I'm usually a bit too subtle about my real feelings (that's kinda how I talk/write) and feel like I should clarify by saying my scum read of Sophia is really strong. Tunneled, for sure, but I'm trying to doubt myself and keep holding on to the scum read.

One of the many things is her view on me. Notice very early on how positive it seems and then there's a weird shift after I vote (I tried to push her, asking if she scum read me). Overall though her posts reads as trusting me, but she slips in scum reads and worried tells. It feels too calculated and not like someone genuinely worried I might be scum. Like she's trying to bait out people suspicious of me instead of actually figuring me out.
 

Ty4on

Member
Because I'm developing reads on everyone. I think it is beneficial to have some basis on everyone to track throughout the game, especially with such a large cast, as early as possible.

I'm not sure I understand your question/statement about Splinter.
I want a read of Splinter ._.

Going to sleep now, but I'd love to wake up with one. I'm gonna be at work during day end.
 
Can I ask Ty, before you go. Do you believe the massive interest everyone has in the topic of Sophia to manufactured by scummmates?

I'll see what I can do to make a coherent read on Splinter.
 

Ty4on

Member
I'm kinda wary of Verelios and melonrabbit. Mostly gut though, especially the former. Melonrabbit is a tougher read as evident by me initially town reading her. I gotta go more in-depth through her reads. Her latest post (question to be) was slightly townie.

Still scum reading Darryl.
 

Sophia

Member
I'm usually a bit too subtle about my real feelings (that's kinda how I talk/write) and feel like I should clarify by saying my scum read of Sophia is really strong. Tunneled, for sure, but I'm trying to doubt myself and keep holding on to the scum read.

One of the many things is her view on me. Notice very early on how positive it seems and then there's a weird shift after I vote (I tried to push her, asking if she scum read me). Overall though her posts reads as trusting me, but she slips in scum reads and worried tells. It feels too calculated and not like someone genuinely worried I might be scum. Like she's trying to bait out people suspicious of me instead of actually figuring me out.

I'm being cautious around you after Danny Phantom. I do have a slight scum read of you, but my gut is telling me that it might be wrong so I don't want to lynch you today.

Also, I can't help but feel a bit of dead air. We're 17 hours out, but... something feels off.
 

Darryl

Banned
I'm being cautious around you after Danny Phantom. I do have a slight scum read of you, but my gut is telling me that it might be wrong so I don't want to lynch you today.

Also, I can't help but feel a bit of dead air. We're 17 hours out, but... something feels off.

Yea. Everyone needs a vote on the table asap. if people can't find themselves a vote, I'm going to assume you're indifferent about who gets lynched and maybe we should lynch you.

<call>

<call21>

top scum are ty4on, Blarg, FireBlend

top town is nin1000, Sophia, and lone prodigy
 
still waiting on that reads list Mr man
*foot tapping intensifies*

I'm being cautious around you after Danny Phantom. I do have a slight scum read of you, but my gut is telling me that it might be wrong so I don't want to lynch you today.

Also, I can't help but feel a bit of dead air. We're 17 hours out, but... something feels off.

i think its because this is the first Day one in recent gafia history that we have not just tunneled in on a random active player and convinced ourselves of their scumminess.
i like it, its a nice change.
 

Sophia

Member
Because Darryl brought it up, the people without an active vote:

4. Blargonaut [m] (Has previously voted)
5. Bronx-Man [m]
7. SalvaPot [m]
8. Fireblend [m] (Has previously voted)
13. Unmasked Ferret [m]
16. Barrylocke [m]
18. Ynnek7 [m]
21. nin1000 [m]
22. Verelios [m]
 

Verelios

Member
Since we're being rushed to vote, I might as well answer the call and-

Vote:Sawneeks

Place a temp vote to get some discourse flowing. Don't worry, don't worry, let's clear the air.
 

SalvaPot

Member
Vote: No Lynch

I don't feel confident in anyone's scumminess yet, and my usual default votes (Blarg and splinter) feel townie to me so far.

Also I just want to piss townies off.
 

Darryl

Banned
Why Nin, Darryl?

I had you on the list too but then I was like o ya rabbit has been doing those long read lists and hasn't had any standout reads so he actually falls into the pleasing middle ground where scum thrive. but looking back on it nin did that too. I just had gut feelings about you two.
 

Darryl

Banned
Any reason for Blarg or is it just because he's Blarg, Darryl?



How do you feel about this post?

no reason except for guts. I really stretched to put a top 3 bottom 3 together. but everyone should do it. what 3 should we keep and what 3 should we be willing to lynch today, cuz we are starting to wind down and we need heads on the chopping table
 

Sophia

Member
I'm kinda wary of Verelios and melonrabbit. Mostly gut though, especially the former. Melonrabbit is a tougher read as evident by me initially town reading her. I gotta go more in-depth through her reads. Her latest post (question to be) was slightly townie.

Still scum reading Darryl.

I had you on the list too but then I was like o ya rabbit has been doing those long read lists and hasn't had any standout reads so he actually falls into the pleasing middle ground where scum thrive. but looking back on it nin did that too. I just had gut feelings about you two.

Both of you are gut reading Melon too? Hmm...
 

SalvaPot

Member
I was thinking, how WOULD I play if I am ever scum. My most self-destructive attitude was when I was the doctor, and most of the time I am vanilla. The only time I ever got to be scum was when I was a replacement in PW and by then I was pretty much doomed.

Sophia is a bit too hard for my liking. Hmm.
 
I was thinking, how WOULD I play if I am ever scum. My most self-destructive attitude was when I was the doctor, and most of the time I am vanilla. The only time I ever got to be scum was when I was a replacement in PW and by then I was pretty much doomed.

Sophia is a bit too hard for my liking. Hmm.

Do you want to be scum?
 
Yea. Everyone needs a vote on the table asap. if people can't find themselves a vote, I'm going to assume you're indifferent about who gets lynched and maybe we should lynch you.

<call>

<call21>

top scum are ty4on, Blarg, FireBlend

top town is nin1000, Sophia, and lone prodigy

u wanna go m8
 
Playstyles are not your untouchable and unique individual quirks. They're held to scrutiny, and me calling your passive and defeatist playstyle out doesn't mean I'm calling it shitty. So if you're not feigning all of this, chin up. Jesus. I don't like your dismissive and defeatist tone. It's something I see out of town a lot but usually after they've run the piece a little bit and they're one vote away from getting hammered at the very end of the day. They don't usually jump into that bit at the start, unprompted. I think the tone itself shows a comfort with the game and your place in it, which comes easier to scum.

Fireblend hold you back bro

hold you back
 

Ynnek7

Member
Getting a vote in today.

VOTE: Bronx-Man

He made a few drive by posts, and while I share a bit of his Lucario dislike (I feel like Nintendo pushed really hard to get people to like him and didn't let hit happen organically), it would have been nice to hear from him once class was over.

Totally willing to change my vote if he comes back or if anyone else makes a convincing argument.
 

Ynnek7

Member
And looking to the future, I really do think a lot is bound to change after we're past the first night. Scum is bound to kill one of us, but there are other trainer's out there, too, trying to capture us.

Just guessing at this point, but if being caught by a trainer opens up some sort of Mason Chat, keep in mind that Team Rocket might be able to catch, as well as kill.
 

Ynnek7

Member
Also, just to clear things up, Medicham is not my favorite pokemon. That title goes to.....

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Grass Starters for life! I don't think there's been a mainline game yet where I didn't go green, and it's all due to this little guy.
 

Burbeting

Banned
stanleypalmtree (0)
christina mackenzie 48 (400)
blargonaut 179 (294)

nin1000 (1)
sophia 59 (74)
roytheone 423

sophia (2)
ty4on 96
fireblend 232 (374)
*splinter 237 (459)
christina mackenzie 400

verelios (1)
sawneeks 97

ty4on (0)
darryl 123 (472)

*splinter (1)
melonrabbit 134

salvapot (2)
gorlak 197 (222)
gorlak 424
blargonaut 590

roytheone (0)
gorlak 222 (424)

unmasked ferret (1)
lone_prodigy 259
sophia 499 (514)

lone_prodigy (1)
el topo 275

bronx-man (2)
sophia 323 (462)
stanleypalmtree 442
ynnek7 592

hyperactivity (0)
fireblend 374 (484)

christina mackenzie (1)
*splinter 459

fireblend (2)
darryl 472
dusk soldier 543

el topo (2)
sophia 514
royal_flush 519

sawneeks (1)
verelios 571

no lynch (1)
salvapot 572
 

Gorlak

Banned
Previously on http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=216860110&postcount=197...

So what happened in the meantime?

Blarg continues to bring forth his nonsense. Flush chimes in. Ty scumreading Darryl for his confrontation.
roy - nin - topo - my vote (later explained by me)
Let's talk about Dusk's question later. Splinter joining the party.

This was already helpfully pointed out by Darryl, but for some reason he highlighted Ty4on over Sophia. I have a couple of ideas as to why he did this but I'll wait for him to elaborate before I go into them.
I'd like you to explain now.

LP coasting El Topo - OMGSUS vote - Sophia to the rescue, let's defend LP.

Darryl misunderstanding Ty? Then dismisses the argument by calling Ty clueless and leaning him town because of that.

Salva doing nothing.

Sophia getting dog-crappily aggressive. Someone found confidence or is at least faking it this time around. Where does it come from? Maybe she's got a team backing her up?

I have a blindspot on Sawneeks, maybe Darryl could explain what he meant by always being triggered by her early game?

Flush is interested in me. Seems legitimate since we were scum partners last game we played together.

Fireblend is here, Stanley is here. Uh huh, CM saying he is not keeping up? 403

Nin starting his whole #sickreads posts. A lot of describing what they've been doing. Less describing what he thinks of them (roy - neutral, sophia - scum, dusk - neutral, blarg - neutral, bronx - null, ty4on - normal, that's as far as he got)

melon joining with reads. Blarg pleasing everyone with Calvin&Hobes, still don't see something useful from him.

Hmm, Salva townreading Splinter. How? Why? You've been with us in Mini 2? What's everyone else thinking about Splinter? I have a null read, don't see anything that tells me something about his alignment.

Back to Dusk starting his endavour to read people by their favourite pokemon. Some answer, most don't. He continues to assume a lot of favourites barely by going with avatars, which is wrong to begin with. I'm wondering what he wants to achieve, it makes him look like he's doing something, while not contributing at all. Since this is a tedious task and no one will seriously take into account his accusations based on favourites he himself assigned to people, I doubt it is coming from a scum player. Dusk, how exactly do you want to catch scum with this process?

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Sidenotes: Nin is constantly misspelling Darryl (this is bugging me more than it should) and for Darryl: it's [f] Melonrabbit
 

Gorlak

Banned
Having caught up, we should lynch one of:

Salva
Roy (is a gut feeling)
Splinter (null read means you should be lynched by default, don't want to get burned again)

Alternatives are as always the inactives: Bronx-Man, Barrylocke

Or as I have no strong scum lead we could also lynch nin, illogical players are hard to cope with.

Slight town reads about Ty and Dusk.

Looking at CM tells me he is coasting hard. He mentioned twice having problems to keep up and only ever shows up to put out some one-liners, very similar to what LP is doing every game. El Topo overreacting to a single vote could only happen if he was an unexperienced scum player, was he ever scum? Right now, I wouldn't lynch him. Will not vote Sophia today. Flush is the cautious player I'm used to, null read.
 
And looking to the future, I really do think a lot is bound to change after we're past the first night. Scum is bound to kill one of us, but there are other trainer's out there, too, trying to capture us.

Just guessing at this point, but if being caught by a trainer opens up some sort of Mason Chat, keep in mind that Team Rocket might be able to catch, as well as kill.

I don't think being captured by a trainer necessarily means that our time is up in the game. Just reading the opening flavor, it states that there are trainers already living with us Pokemons so that are likely aligned as town. Again that's just reading the flavor.

Team Rocket being able to recruit additional members into their ranks is plausible. Based on my knowledge of the lore, there are only 3 members of Team Rocket. Seems too low a number for a game this size.
 
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