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[Abdiel]

I keep coming back to this thread to read all of you experiencing this game.

I mean, I got my Platinum, and I have no reason to play through the game again. But damn. It really gave me those Persona 4 hollow vibes, of... I don't want to stop living the lives of these characters.

Ugh. I already miss walking in their shoes.

Seriously though. Laura is best female character in the main party. I don't mean that just for damage. She was the best one characterization wise. All of her scenes and personal moments just really resonated the most as intimate and earnest.

Alisa gets shown as the most obvious, but it *feels* obvious, like, yes, she's here, and it's almost too easy of a cast choice. She's still a great character! I like her. But I felt like *all* of her scenes were intrinsically romantically inclined, while Laura felt like you saw more growth across the board. - This is strictly in the bonding scenes, mind. Both characters got plenty of screen time for awesomeness in their different areas.

Dammit. I don't have any games to distract me right now. When is Cosmic Star Heroine supposed to release? FFXV got delayed out so long that my next game pickup isn't until PSVR...

 

[Cornbread78]

Dammit. I don't have any games to distract me right now. When is Cosmic Star Heroine supposed to release? FFXV got delayed out so long that my next game pickup isn't until PSVR...

"Summer 2016"

It just went through a beta, so hopefully soon.

 

[Bladenic]

The final dungeon is so weird, it feels like a Tales of repeated asset romp with palette swapped everything. The randomness factor doesn't help in that regard. Trying to get through it as swiftly as possible, except I'm a sucker for master Quartz grinding and I still have a shit ton of Overdrives to go before I reach the trophy amount (worst trophy in this game).

I'm wondering what to do about the battle note trophy. Should I restart on my nightmare run and re-fucking-scan everything AGAIN? Or just carry over and hope I unlock it because I did miss an enemy and my eyes just can't catch it in my battle note book? Ugh, so annoying.

 

[Abdiel]

The final dungeon is so weird, it feels like a Tales of repeated asset romp with palette swapped everything. The randomness factor doesn't help in that regard. Trying to get through it as swiftly as possible, except I'm a sucker for master Quartz grinding and I still have a shit ton of Overdrives to go before I reach the trophy amount (worst trophy in this game).

I'm wondering what to do about the battle note trophy. Should I restart on my nightmare run and re-fucking-scan everything AGAIN? Or just carry over and hope I unlock it because I did miss an enemy and my eyes just can't catch it in my battle note book? Ugh, so annoying.

There's a list of how many monsters you should have in each category, you know, in the platinum trophy guide, so even if you haven't had it translated to English fully yet, it still is accurate. You should have 331/331 at the end. The only one I had almost missed was one of the panda enemies that doesn't appear on its own in Legram, and is paired up with the giant gold rhino douches. I realized it right before the finale dungeon, lol.

I got my overdrive trophy literally *at* the last fight of the entire game in the Nightmare run. Final boss. I mean, I timed it that way, I had an extra overdrive available if need be, I was burning through overdrives during that dungeon just to finish off the last 10 or so I needed. But it made it a more... satisfying conclusion to get the last three trophies all at once.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

That intermission was pure hype.

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I was secretly hoping Rean would join them though. I've always wanted a game where the protagonist joins the antagonists. (Recommend me one if you know one)

This response is way late, but Vanguard Bandits for PSX lets you choose to do just this, and the plot and world are very similar to CS2 in that game. I mean like, it is almost exactly what you are asking for - it is that similar.

 

[Bladenic]

Random question that popped in my head about Ouroboros:

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So Wisemann was the 3rd Anguis, Vita is 2nd, who else do "we" (and by that I mean those who've played all the games) know? Who was the main Anguis in the Crossbell arc? I also saw something about Lechter being suspected as an Anguis, haha. Love these games and the wild (deservedly so) speculations.

 

[Bebpo]

Random question that popped in my head about Ouroboros:

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So Wisemann was the 3rd Anguis, Vita is 2nd, who else do "we" (and by that I mean those who've played all the games) know? Who was the main Anguis in the Crossbell arc? I also saw something about Lechter being suspected as an Anguis, haha. Love these games and the wild (deservedly so) speculations.

Do you want real Crossbell spoilers? If so read below:
Major fucking crossbell spoilers, DO NOT READ

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Read the other Kiseki thread. Don't want to spoil it accidentally for anyone here.

 

[Bladenic]

Do you want real Crossbell spoilers? If so read below:
Major fucking crossbell spoilers, DO NOT READ

Spoiler

Read the other Kiseki thread. Don't want to spoil it accidentally for anyone here.

You're right, my bad. Being a hypocrite since I called for other games discussion to move to that thread and I went and asked a question about them here. I apologize.

 

[Yu Narukami]

Can confirm, haven't felt this empty after finishing a game in a while.

I felt the same when I finished CS1. I like to plan ahead the games that I'm going to buy and I have no idea what to play after this. I was going to buy SO5 but I heard its pretty shitty and FF15 releases in 2 months.

 

[Gu4n]

The final dungeon is so weird, it feels like a Tales of repeated asset romp with palette swapped everything. The randomness factor doesn't help in that regard. Trying to get through it as swiftly as possible, except I'm a sucker for master Quartz grinding and I still have a shit ton of Overdrives to go before I reach the trophy amount (worst trophy in this game).

I'm wondering what to do about the battle note trophy. Should I restart on my nightmare run and re-fucking-scan everything AGAIN? Or just carry over and hope I unlock it because I did miss an enemy and my eyes just can't catch it in my battle note book? Ugh, so annoying.

You most likely missed something. I was also confident I'd scanned everything, until I went through my notebook a fourth, fifth time I discovered one enemy had one drop marked as ???. I can't imagine the trophy being bugged.

 

[Bladenic]

You most likely missed something. I was also confident I'd scanned everything, until I went through my notebook a fourth, fifth time I discovered one enemy had one drop marked as ???. I can't imagine the trophy being bugged.

I'll keep checking, I highly doubt it's bugged or else others would have reported as such. Not gonna worry bout it until next playthrough.

Just for fun I looked at all the ultimate weapon stats, and

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Claire's actually seems the best. Gives her 100% accuracy boost and a huge 25% Crit chance boost. Laura and Millium are also better than most due to huge strength increases and 10% faint chance in addition to crit boost. The worst are without a doubt Toval and Elise, they're both mages but receive no ATS bonus.

Jusis and Alisa have the same issues as their weapons never give them ATS bonuses which they need, but Alisa's ultimate at least provides 15% crit bonus and Jusis' has more power boost. The spoilered worst have the lowest strength gains other than Emma and Elliott, but their weapons provide ATS boosts so the strength matters not.

 

[jman2050]

End of Act 2/Beginning of final chapter spoilers

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Oh boy I didn't miss this. Having to go around Trista and the academy talking to literally everyone. Thankfully it seems this will be the first and last time I have to do this in this game.

The final bonding scenes (for the characters I saw anyway) were about as expected, though I am amused that Laura wasn't even given the courtesy of a kiss scene like Alisa was. Gee I wonder where Falcom's priorities lie in this respect. Ultimately I don't mind since I like Alisa anyway and I didn't even need Fie's scene (which was pretty nice) to get her to level 7.

It's kind of weird cause it doesn't feel like the end of the game even though the game is telling me otherwise. There's been lots of good world-building, character-building, setup and so on, but not much in the way of payoff, so I'm hoping the backend doesn't feel too rushed or stuffed with constant plot revelations.

 

[Taruranto]

What's up with the Arts Training Facility? How do I set up Arts reflection? Emma can do that, but it's a craft.

 

[Bladenic]

What's up with the Arts Training Facility? How do I set up Arts reflection? Emma can do that, but it's a craft.

Crescent Mirror arte. The level 5 of that one is the hardest one by far because you can't just S-break them to oblivion.

 

[Kvik]

How?

I played through CS1 twice in like 175 hours.

My first run of CS1 took me just over 100 hours, and that was with talking to every NPC after every story event, doing every quest, getting A0 rank, etc. How did you spend 185 hours in one play through?

Welp. I didn't know where I got my figure from. But I booted up my PS3 quickly and produced this snap.

In CS2, I'm currently at Aria Shrine - Entrance, and already clocking 25 hours.

I left it idle a lot though. That and grinding U-materials for everyone.

 

[Cornbread78]

I felt the same when I finished CS1. I like to plan ahead the games that I'm going to buy and I have no idea what to play after this. I was going to buy SO5 but I heard its pretty shitty and FF15 releases in 2 months.

Exist Archive? (10/18)

 

[Yu Narukami]

Exist Archive? (10/18)

I think I'll wait for reviews. I can't imagine being as good as VP. Besides the price will probably be at 20 bucks after a few months just like SO5.

 

[Glitter and Gold]

Random question that popped in my head about Ouroboros:

Spoiler

So Wisemann was the 3rd Anguis, Vita is 2nd, who else do "we" (and by that I mean those who've played all the games) know? Who was the main Anguis in the Crossbell arc? I also saw something about Lechter being suspected as an Anguis, haha. Love these games and the wild (deservedly so) speculations.

(Ouroboros details)
Well we know the

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7th Anguis

is

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The Steel Maiden

as well from this game. And we also know that she is heavily involved in what is happening in Crossbell as well based on

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Duvalie's comments,whom is the head knight of her Stahlritter group.

As for actual Crossbell details, I'm trying to leave myself in the dark as much as possible for as long as possible personally, but this is all stuff we're specifically told in CS2.

 

[aravuus]

Yay

I've got a Swedish grammar exam tomorrow, so unfortunately.. I guess I'll just have to fail the exam and play the game all day.

 

[Yu Narukami]

Yay



I've got a Swedish grammar exam tomorrow, so unfortunately.. I guess I'll just have to fail the exam and play the game all day.

Who needs Swedish anyway? Especially when you're an African steward.

 

[Cornbread78]

I think I'll wait for reviews. I can't imagine being as good as VP. Besides the price will probably be at 20 bucks after a few months just like SO5.

Looks like it'll be fun, so I'm gonna grab it on PS4 (instead of Vita) and play through it until FFXV launches.

 

[aravuus]

Who needs Swedish anyway? Especially when you're an African steward.

Exactly! Muh Japanese videogames are more important than graduating tbh

Now to try if the NG+ save I got from gamefaqs works

 

[Cornbread78]

time to boss bit(h:

WTF is up with this fu(king

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gorilla with horns

in act 1-3? I'm waaaay OP for this point in the game and playing on normal and this dude is just crushing me non-stop...

 

[Gu4n]

time to boss bit(h:

WTF is up with this fu(king

Spoiler

gorilla with horns

in act 1-3? I'm waaaay OP for this point in the game and playing on normal and this dude is just crushing me non-stop...

That's Gordi Schnap G for you. Keep your distance and go full Arts -- it's a great battle to let Toval steal the show.

 

[bishopcruz]

Welp, Finale is complete. That was a ride, not perfect, but had some really cool stuff at the end. I knew that

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Crow was a goner, or at least hoped. What I didn't expect was that Rufus was powerful enough to basically murder Grianos. He is ridiculous.

The final area was alright, but I apparently missed a treasure chest somewhere, and even worse, the battle note trophy didn't pop for me, I have 331/331, and do not see any question marks on any bad guys. I wonder if it has to do with me using cross play or something. Gah, that is two full trophies that I can't get this run. Grr... have I mentioned how much I hate easily missable trophies in 100 hour games?

On the

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Epilogue

now. I still haven't gotten too far but it is weird

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seeing Rean working for Osborne, I hope that there is more to it. I also want to know what the hell the story is with that douche leaving his son in the middle of the woods.

Also right now it seems that

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Osborne really is the villain of the series. I was kinda happy when they killed him in Part 1, because it was a ballsy move. I don't totally mind that he's alive, but man he really is the worst. He basically engineered a civil war that cost countless lives, and nearly destroyed the capital city just to consolidate power and take over Crossbell. Class VII have essentially been pawns this whole time? Man, that is harsh.

Well, time to see if there is any more big story stuff

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in the Epilogue, I hope it's more than Lloyd.

Work can't be over soon enough.

 

[Yu Narukami]

time to boss bit(h:

WTF is up with this fu(king

Spoiler

gorilla with horns

in act 1-3? I'm waaaay OP for this point in the game and playing on normal and this dude is just crushing me non-stop...

I beat him last night spamming S-Crafts, Fire Arts and Overdrive.

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

time to boss bit(h:

WTF is up with this fu(king

Spoiler

gorilla with horns

in act 1-3? I'm waaaay OP for this point in the game and playing on normal and this dude is just crushing me non-stop...

That's Gordi Schnap G for you. Keep your distance and go full Arts -- it's a great battle to let Toval steal the show.

Pretty much.

 

[Neoweee]

time to boss bit(h:

WTF is up with this fu(king

Spoiler

gorilla with horns

in act 1-3? I'm waaaay OP for this point in the game and playing on normal and this dude is just crushing me non-stop...

I love those fights. On Nightmare, the fights with egregious self-heals are the only ones that aren't complete curb stomps. There's a lot of strategy in the battle system, but S-Crafts completely overshadow them in most circumstances. Self-Heals are a great way to ruthlessly punish the long cooldowns after S-Crafts.

One of the required bosses in Act/Part

Spoiler

2-4

was the first one in like 20 hours to actually make things close.

EDIT: But, yes, the optional fight in 1-3 is the hardest fight in the game (up to where I am now) by a healthy margin, as you have limited stat-stacking options at that point to make your damage output take off.

 

[Cornbread78]

That's Gordi Schnap G for you. Keep your distance and go full Arts -- it's a great battle to let Toval steal the show.

I beat him last night spamming S-Crafts, Fire Arts and Overdrive.

uggh, his "knockout" move is a killer...

Pretty much.

But I didn't bring him along..... I was definitely

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Sharon time!!!!

I love those fights. On Nightmare, the fights with egregious self-heals are the only ones that aren't complete curb stomps. There's a lot of strategy in the battle system, but S-Crafts completely overshadow them in most circumstances. Self-Heals are a great way to ruthlessly punish the long cooldowns after S-Crafts.

One of the required bosses in Act/Part

Spoiler

2-4

was the first one in like 20 hours to actually make things close.

I like a little challenge, but not a rout, lol.

 

[aravuus]

Been playing so much DQVII lately that I really miss being able to advance dialogue with every button lol.

It's good to be back, however. Gonna take a small break to eat and study a bit and then I guess I'll play all evening.

e: all night*, who needs sleep

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Exactly! Muh Japanese videogames are more important than graduating tbh

Now to try if the NG+ save I got from gamefaqs works

it definitely works after resigning...and I wish I did that just so I could start a nearly raw game except with max bonding points available

 

[aravuus]

it definitely works after resigning...and I wish I did that just so I could start a nearly raw game except with max bonding points available

Yeah, it worked fine after a bit of tinkering. Max bonding points in particular is fantastic, though I did get the items and levels too.

Oh yeah, and now I can do the NG+ quest too. Wonder if the guide on gamefaqs has anything about it. If anyone's done it, when does it start and is it hard to miss?

 

[Basileus777]

Yeah, it worked fine after a bit of tinkering. Max bonding points in particular is fantastic, though I did get the items and levels too.

Oh yeah, and now I can do the NG+ quest too. Wonder if the guide on gamefaqs has anything about it. If anyone's done it, when does it start and is it hard to miss?

It's not hard to miss and even the ng+ boss can easily be beaten on a first playthrough.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Yeah, it worked fine after a bit of tinkering. Max bonding points in particular is fantastic, though I did get the items and levels too.

Oh yeah, and now I can do the NG+ quest too. Wonder if the guide on gamefaqs has anything about it. If anyone's done it, when does it start and is it hard to miss?

I wouldn't want the items or levels on a first playthrough myself, just wish I could've viewed all the bonding scenes

 

[Gu4n]

Yeah, it worked fine after a bit of tinkering. Max bonding points in particular is fantastic, though I did get the items and levels too.

Oh yeah, and now I can do the NG+ quest too. Wonder if the guide on gamefaqs has anything about it. If anyone's done it, when does it start and is it hard to miss?

See the tab NG+: https://gu4n.github.io/cs2/

 

[Firestar]

I wouldn't want the items or levels on a first playthrough myself, just wish I could've viewed all the bonding scenes

Limited bonding points kinda sucks. I just kept reloading my save to see all the events then kept the ones that updated character profiles. Not a perfect solution but at least I didn't miss much.

 

[bishopcruz]

Yeah I think I may wait a couple of weeks if its a similar thing that can be done when we eventually get CS3 if it has a similar thing with bonding points. It's really the only thing I would do on a first play through. I want to see all the scenes, but I do not have the time to play a 100 hour RPG multiple times.

 

[aravuus]

My god, they must've gotten a lot of negative feedback on Rean's head patting tendencies between the release of CS1 and 2 and just out of pure spite, made it even worse lol. This motherfucker is patting everyone in the prologue.

See the tab NG+: https://gu4n.github.io/cs2/

Awesome, thank you!

e: "Suffer until the sequel is out." hahah

unfortunately it's gonna be at least a couple of years of suffering for us plebs with no japanese skills

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Limited bonding points kinda sucks. I just kept reloading my save to see all the events then kept the ones that updated character profiles. Not a perfect solution but at least I didn't miss much.

doing that covers the majority of scenes, but then the final bonding events are still an issue

My god, they must've gotten a lot of negative feedback on Rean's head patting tendencies between the release of CS1 and 2 and just out of pure spite, made it even worse lol. This motherfucker is patting everyone in the prologue.

who was complaining about that, dude is a serial head patter and we love him for it

 

[BassForever]

The bonding points issue is annoying though I do inderstand why its there.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

The bonding points issue is annoying though I do inderstand why its there.

theres a bit of benefit in making a piece of the story yours. You choose the characters you care about and focus on them. Its like you are building rean's inner circle. From that perspective I like it, but overall I just want to see everything in one playthrough

 

[Basileus777]

The bonding points issue is annoying though I do inderstand why its there.

I think it was a bigger issue in CS1 where those bonding events were more essential to developing the characters early on. In this game most of them aren't really that important. Some like Alisa's last one, several of Fie's are things everyone should see, but most of them are forgettable. I couldn't even tell you what happened in Machias' bonding events even though I saw them all.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

I think it was a bigger issue in CS1 where those bonding events were more essential to developing the characters early on. In this game most of them aren't really that important. Some like Alisa's last one, several of Fie's are things everyone should see, but most of them are forgettable. I couldn't even tell you what happened in Machias' bonding events even though I saw them all.

from my experience in 2, Sara's are extremely important for her character. What kind of heathen isn't viewing all of hers anyway though.

Also the last bonding section is important for every character. 6 points there just wasnt enough

EDIT: oh man my friend is playing CS1 now and just got through chapter 4 old schoolhouse scene and texted me "'Lock and load pattycakes' I really like crow haha"

I cant wait until he finishes CS1 now

 

[BassForever]

Can you still ng+ inf bonding points?

 

[Basileus777]

from my experience in 2, Sara's are extremely important for her character. What kind of heathen isn't viewing all of hers anyway though.

Also the last bonding section is important for every character. 6 points there just wasnt enough

Yeah Sara's are good too. And I think I mixed up Alisa's last bonding event with that watch quest, her last event is mostly romantic stuff.

Can you still ng+ inf bonding points?

Yes, it requires 4 NG+ points though and you get 5 per playthrough.

 

[aravuus]

who was complaining about that, dude is a serial head patter and we love him for it

Heh, I'm just joking. I think it's stupid, but I don't really have any strong feelings one way or another.

The bonding points issue is annoying though I do inderstand why its there.

I... Don't, really. I don't see the logic behind it. This isn't just me saying I want to be able to do everything on my first playthrough either, because I'm definitely fine with locking player out of content if it makes sense. Age of Decadence is a prime example of that.

Buuut I'm not gonna waste time complaining about it, since it won't be a problem for me anyway lol.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

Yeah Sara's are good too. And I think I mixed up Alisa's last bonding event with that watch quest.


Yes, it requires 4 NG+ points though and you get 5 per playthrough.

I think a lot of the bonding events were very much worth seeing for what they do for the characters, but there is definitely more value in what they bring to some characters rather than others.

Still, all 6 I watched in the final session were really good. Emma and Fie especially.

 

[BassForever]

Yeah Sara's are good too. And I think I mixed up Alisa's last bonding event with that watch quest, her last event is mostly romantic stuff.


Yes, it requires 4 NG+ points though and you get 5 per playthrough.

So more ideal for a second ng+ when you have 10 points like in cs1

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

From the ones that I saw, I'd say that Sara, Fie and Millium had some pretty important bonding events from a character development perspective. Jusis had some pretty good ones, too.

So more ideal for a second ng+ when you have 10 points like in cs1

I did it for my first NG+ with CS1, and I'd imagine that I'll do that again when I play CS2 a second time in the future. Bonding points are the biggest bonus you get from a second run.

 

[ShadowSoldier89]

wonder how long it would take to rush the game doing nothing on easy mode just to get more NG+ points. I really want to do a playthrough with all my shit carried over but with more NG+ points available for outfits and especially bonding points.

My backlog is calling though, and I just hate the hoops games like this and trails put into NG+