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FFXV might receive additional PS4 Pro support post launch

jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
I think waiting for the PC version will be worth it at this point, Persona 5 should be JRPG enough for me for a while.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Here's another take on the interview.

https://forum.finalfantasyxv.com/discussion/15839/why-tabata-do-not-show-off-ffxv-on-ps4-pro#latest

"It seems that, like the PC version, they weren't planning to do a PRO Patch at first (cause, you know, the original release was at September 30th without PRO features), so, in Tabata's words, to take advantage of PRO's features, they would need a lot of time that they don´t have right now.
But Tabata thinks that, after the release of the game, taking the time they need, they will be available to create a PRO patch that uses better PRO`s features.

The interviewer talks about 4KHDR and Tabata doesn't deny it, so, for now, 4KHDR is the unique feature of PRO version."​
This makes more sense.
 

clem84

Gold Member
Notice how he mentionned time and effort(ressources)? This will always be a dilema for developers. Moving forward, they will more or less have to develop 2 games. I suspect most won't go through the trouble, to a significant extent. Which means minuscule improvements. This makes the PS4PRO of questionable value. Some will of course, but their games will take longer to come out. Either way, I don't like what I'm hearing on the PS4PRO front.
 

Tathanen

Get Inside Her!
I'm gonna be right pissed if I buy this pro, play FFXV, and then three months afterwards it gets a patch that makes it way better. I've waited this long to get a PS4, to pay for a pro and not even get the benefit on the game I'm primarily buying it for would make me livid.
 
About Persona 5, it will exist a pspro patch for it?
Will there be a pro patch for P5, probably not seeing as the game released before the Sony deadline.

So wait for an actual pro version and sale. I was in no rush to play anyway, want to hear real world impressions first.
 

Ocelott

Member
It has 4K + HDR support. Tabata is talking about taking "full advantage" of Pro like with the PC version, things like redoing the lighting on top of the base features which they don't have time to do right now. For Instance, Uncharted 4 has already released and it's currently "undergoing retooling ('they're taking another look at rendering strategies,' says Cerny)" since they have time to do it.

We don't know what the 1080p mode entails for XV, but if they already support 4K then downsampling that to 1080p wouldn't be hard to do.

XV Pro Impressions from people who saw it.

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/09/16/early-impressions-final-fantasy-xv-playstation-4-pro/

Those who attended highly praised the high resolution, splendid texture, and smooth and stable framerate of Final Fantasy XV on PlayStation 4 Pro. Additionally, they said that the texture of the trees and plants on the field were really impressive, making it look like a completely different game from the original.

https://forum.finalfantasyxv.com/discussion/2587/tgs-trailer/p13

Gamergen impressions of XV Pro:

"What does FFXV PS4P bring to the table ? Well, in three words: it is MAGNIFICENT !
Between the demos we tested and gameplay videos we've seen so far, we can confirm, yes, this production will be much more flashy on the new hardware . Because the aliasing has almost disappeared and the clipping is better managed.

Optimization for a 4K picture, it brings several things. First, a sharpness in textures that literally explodes the retina. Everything is beautiful, everything is clean, it's breathtaking. Then the colors are dazzling and showy"

https://forum.finalfantasyxv.com/discussion/2587/tgs-trailer/p7

"Gameblog saw the PS4P version behind closed door at the TGS , the guy on the video is talking like he saw the best thing ever .

For him the IQ is perfect and the draw distance is on another lvl , the PS4P pro version exploits the full potential of Luminous Engine .
He also says it is the best PS4P upgrade he has seen (maybe the only one truly worthwhile according to him ) ."
This why I am buying a pro.
 
Is this the thread where we find out that people thought devs hit the "Pro" button and it automatically makes the game look and run better?

Shit takes a lot of time to optimize and QA test for.
 
It has 4K + HDR support. Tabata is talking about taking "full advantage" of Pro like with the PC version, things like redoing the lighting on top of the base features which they don't have time to do right now. For Instance, Uncharted 4 has already released and it's currently "undergoing retooling ('they're taking another look at rendering strategies,' says Cerny)" since they have time to do it.

We don't know what the 1080p mode entails for XV, but if they already support 4K then downsampling that to 1080p wouldn't be hard to do.

XV Pro Impressions from people who saw it.

http://www.siliconera.com/2016/09/16/early-impressions-final-fantasy-xv-playstation-4-pro/

Those who attended highly praised the high resolution, splendid texture, and smooth and stable framerate of Final Fantasy XV on PlayStation 4 Pro. Additionally, they said that the texture of the trees and plants on the field were really impressive, making it look like a completely different game from the original.

https://forum.finalfantasyxv.com/discussion/2587/tgs-trailer/p13

Gamergen impressions of XV Pro:

"What does FFXV PS4P bring to the table ? Well, in three words: it is MAGNIFICENT !
Between the demos we tested and gameplay videos we've seen so far, we can confirm, yes, this production will be much more flashy on the new hardware . Because the aliasing has almost disappeared and the clipping is better managed.

Optimization for a 4K picture, it brings several things. First, a sharpness in textures that literally explodes the retina. Everything is beautiful, everything is clean, it's breathtaking. Then the colors are dazzling and showy"

https://forum.finalfantasyxv.com/discussion/2587/tgs-trailer/p7

"Gameblog saw the PS4P version behind closed door at the TGS , the guy on the video is talking like he saw the best thing ever .

For him the IQ is perfect and the draw distance is on another lvl , the PS4P pro version exploits the full potential of Luminous Engine .
He also says it is the best PS4P upgrade he has seen (maybe the only one truly worthwhile according to him ) ."

This needs to be included in the OP, the thread title is making people think they arent doing anything when that contradicts reality.
 

Arkeband

Banned
This game is a roller coaster. Was the closed screening of the Pro footage target renders, like the dev environment just cranked to max? We'll never know...
 

nOoblet16

Member
Pro version is already a night and day change from normal version.

This interview is really weird.
What? We haven't seen any footage yet, even the Pro reveal was PS4 footage wasn't it? Afaik people mistook the graphical improvements they made for PS4 recently for Pro version.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
What? We haven't seen any footage yet, even the Pro reveal was PS4 footage wasn't it? Afaik people mistook the graphical improvements they made for PS4 recently for Pro version.
There was a small bit of footage in the PS Meeting montage video.
 

ZenTzen

Member
This game is a roller coaster. Was the closed screening of the Pro footage target renders, like the dev environment just cranked to max? We'll never know...

maybe they're downplaying the PRO version to keep the focus on the base version, either way we'll see how it looks by release
 
There was a small bit of footage in the PS Meeting montage video.

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and it looks sooooooooo good on a 4K screen
 

Lucifon

Junior Member
Reportedly many teams for games this year had 1-2 people working on the ps4 pro versions. Keep expectations in check people, PS4 is where the priority is.
 

ethomaz

Banned
What? We haven't seen any footage yet, even the Pro reveal was PS4 footage wasn't it? Afaik people mistook the graphical improvements they made for PS4 recently for Pro version.
There are some shots of Pro and looks so better than PS4.

Even after the improvements in PS4 it looks really below what you expect from a game this gen... it has a pretty bad IQ but I hope it runs good.
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
They delayed the game for 2 months to clean stuff up for the normal version so I did not think they would put much into a Pro version. It seems like they are already operating at full capacity trying to get the regular game out in time.
 

Rappy

Member
This seems to be what's happening.
I mean, this seems to be happening with the Pro overall. Sure they had an event for the reveal but it's not like they've been showing off a lot of stuff to the masses. Perhaps that will change in a few weeks.

And I think if the Pro version of FFXV just gets locked 1080p and more stable frame rates, that's enough for me. But I don't think I'll be keeping my Pro for very long anyway.
There are some shots of Pro and looks so better than PS4.

Even after the improvements in PS4 it looks really below what you expect from a game this gen... it has a pretty bad IQ but I hope it runs good.
I dunno, in some areas it could look better. But in others in the improved builds it really does look like a current gen game.
 

saher

Banned
Yeah they should focus on the PS3/Xbone for now, pretty sure the game will still need some patching after the release plus the work on the DLC.
 

Eiji

Member
Hopefully the 4K mode checkerboards from 1800p and not lower or SE are using some other method to get a sharp 4K image.
 

benzy

Member
Even after the improvements in PS4 it looks really below what you expect from a game this gen... it has a pretty bad IQ but I hope it runs good.

Looks pretty competitive with other current gen games.

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Outside of the hair still having artifacts the IQ is pretty clean now, even Gears 4 has hair artifacts on console. They've fixed up their TAA as seen from Gamersyde's high bitrate vids.

image_final_fantasy_xv-33442-2754_0001.jpg
 

valkyre

Member
We definitely need a proper comparison between the 2 versions. It seems to me that the Pro version upon release at least, will be nothing more than a bump to 4K and nothing else.

Looks like the team will offer a proper PS4 Pro patch down the line but nobody will be giving a lot of fucks if they release that 6 months or 1 year later...
 

ethomaz

Banned
Looks pretty competitive with other current gen games.

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ffxvtwitchcon2_by_vspectra-dajwc8n.gif


Outside of the hair still having artifacts the IQ is pretty clean now, even Gears 4 has hair artifacts on console. They've fixed up their TAA as seen from Gamersyde's high bitrate vids.

image_final_fantasy_xv-33442-2754_0001.jpg
Are you trying to make a point with gifs? GT5 looks real life on gifs.

I watched high quality direct feed and the IQ looks bad... that was my initial comment.

Pro looks to put it where it should always be... of course I expect more from Pro but it is already something worth.
 
Are you trying to make a point with gifs? GT5 looks real life on gifs.

I watched high quality direct feed and the IQ looks bad... that was my initial comment.

Pro looks to put it where it should always be... of course I expect more from Pro but it is already something worth.
You said it looks really below what you'd expect from current gen. Don't really think that's the case especially now
 

Peterthumpa

Member
Jesus, the amount of reading comprehension fail is this thread is staggering. Even after quotes from the media explaining exactly how the game will look better on PS4 Pro, people are still complaining and saying stupid things like "canceling my pre order now blah blah blah".

Is it that hard to read the whole thing instead of just the thread's title? Holy shit, lock this thread, there's nothing to discuss here, the game is guaranteed to have better IQ on PS4 Pro, nothing to see here folks.
 

benzy

Member
Are you trying to make a point with gifs? GT5 looks real life on gifs.

I watched high quality direct feed and the IQ looks bad... that was my initial comment.

Pro looks to put it where it should always be... of course I expect more from Pro but it is already something worth.

Your comment came across as more than just IQ, which is why I posted gifs of more recent builds. Lighting, shaders, vegetation rendering, animations are all competitive for current-gen. Plus regarding the IQ comment, that's what the pic is for. There isn't much in that screen that's worse than the IQ of other open world games on console.
 
Jesus, the amount of reading comprehension fail is this thread is staggering. Even after quotes from the media explaining exactly how the game will look better on PS4 Pro, people are still complaining and saying stupid things like "canceling my pre order now blah blah blah".

Is it that hard to read the whole thing instead of just the thread's title? Holy shit, lock this thread, there's nothing to discuss here, the game is guaranteed to have better IQ on PS4 Pro, nothing to see here folks.

People will try hard to say it's not a noticeable improvement in order to justify in their minds to stay with a base ps4
 

wildfire

Banned
And now I'm suddenly rethinking buying one this year.

Pretty much in the same boat. This combined with the Final fantasy reskinned PS4 slim will make me wait for first week demonstrations of the Pro's performance.


I seriously expected stable framerate with the game played with the Pro. If it's only better than the PS4 in the crziest scenarios which will be rare then I don't see a need to get the Pro right now.

Square's PR response makes no sense in light of what Sony said they will require from devs.
 
Well, I guess that answers the question from that thread posted the other day. That 2nd translation seems much more positive. Hopefully it works out for Pro owners.

That said, wow - a lot of interviews keep asking about a PC version. This the 4th time or so since March. Don't know why they expect a different answer from the last 3 interviews. That said, I'm really glad they keep asking the question.
 
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