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FFXV might receive additional PS4 Pro support post launch
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Never. You will be lucky to get 30
ethomaz
Banned
Do you want compare with others 30fps games this gen? That is a good gap in IQ terms.
But the reports could be because of the 4K TV with HDR along with the improved image quality. I'm wondering if 1080p users will get the same experience on base PS4 and Pro, image-wise.
ethomaz
Banned
At least downsample I guess... the exactly same Pro mode downsampled to 1080p.
That's pretty unrealistic at this point.
Are people just scrolling past the footage and comments from people who have seen the footage behind closed doors?
LordOfLore
Banned
Can we get the thread title changed to at least "initial patch"?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
O you don't know? Read the thread title and that's it.
ScherzoPrime
Member
Yeah, I think they want to dissuade the notion that the base version is 'broken'' vis a visit the Pro one.
As it stands the Pro only give a marginal headroom improvement on CPU clockspeed so I don't expect performance to be night and day compared to the base version, though the extra gig of available RAM might help as well.
Every console game has IQ flaws. There isn't a massive gap in XV's final IQ compared to other 30fps games as you claim. The IQ was trash before the optimization though.
Compared with other open world rpgs it's at the same level, maybe with better lighting and definitely better animations, i don't see that gap.
I mean, the draw distance is said to be good yet the only thing we saw proves it's still garbage. And not being an elitist fuck here, if you see the things pop out when you're next to them, it's garbage, I don't want to hear any excuse. The fact that it's a bit better doesn't make it good by any standard.
But just give me AF and I'll be happy. I can't play this with the no AF they have going on with the ps4 version.
But just give me AF and I'll be happy. I can't play this with the no AF they have going on with the ps4 version.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Much better thread title now.
Well, Ps4 Pro pre-order cancelled.
I went from day 1 to cancelling it lol
I might come back to it one day, but the hassle of getting a new TV is a big entry barrier for me.
This seems a bit dramatic. We already know the Pro version is improved from the people who have seen it.
The IQ has definitely come a long way from those really bad screens/trailers they showed in the past. I don't really have any complaints anymore, but it would be nice to see some small IQ/frame rate improvements on Pro. If Digital Foundry proves they exist, i'll still probably buy one.
Well, Ps4 Pro pre-order cancelled.
I went from day 1 to cancelling it lol
I might come back to it one day, but the hassle of getting a new TV is a big entry barrier for me.
What exactly did you see?
Bl@de
Member
Well, Ps4 Pro pre-order cancelled.
I went from day 1 to cancelling it lol
I might come back to it one day, but the hassle of getting a new TV is a big entry barrier for me.
Well, that escalated quickly
Other games might have better textures and foliage among other things, but it isn't exactly a "good gap". There's also the incredibly designed/detailed monsters around the world:
ShockingAlberto
Member
So, basically, don't buy it at launch.
And people always forget the animations. Those are a gen ahead of the concurrence and quite expansive.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Even though we have actual hands on impressions, people still gonna people I guess.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I wonder if by 4K, they mean the dynamic 4K resolution of Deus Ex: MD or checkboarding/geometry rendering.
In either case, I do expect some obvious visual advantage for the PS4 Pro at launch with improved visuals later down the line.
In either case, I do expect some obvious visual advantage for the PS4 Pro at launch with improved visuals later down the line.
Well, Ps4 Pro pre-order cancelled.
I went from day 1 to cancelling it lol
I might come back to it one day, but the hassle of getting a new TV is a big entry barrier for me.
Hassle? Order the LG B6. Done. Now if you mean expense that is another story.
brandonh83
Banned
It'll be nice to play it after the Pro patch
After I've already played it
After I've already played it
The reaction to the statement is little bit dramatic but the action of cancelling a pre-order isn't really, is it? It's not like the Pro is selling out of pre-orders from what I've seen. But yeah, this really isn't solid info on the improvements will actually be, so we're not much any less in the dark than what we had before this info.
how do 1080p tv owners downsample from 4k modes on pro?
I really want to buy a pro but a 4k tv doesn't seem like a possibility this holiday(and tbh I didn't have my current tv for that long so I feel weird doing a switch). So I'm really hoping 1080p users get something worthwhile out of all of this.
I really want to buy a pro but a 4k tv doesn't seem like a possibility this holiday(and tbh I didn't have my current tv for that long so I feel weird doing a switch). So I'm really hoping 1080p users get something worthwhile out of all of this.
LowParry
Member
Remind me. The game has new game plus right?
piccio_ssl
Member
yes
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
1080p TV's will have advantages like supersampling and some developers are option to put in 1080p modes with enhanced effects etc.
Ultimately the advantages are up to the developer, but short of the higher resolution, 1080p TV owners will get boosts too.
Hah!I told you guys we are not getting more than 4k and HDR and I told you guys that what you saw in this oh so great Pro footage was just a higher resolution and nothing more when everyone saw better lighting, foliage and LOD, lol.
Maybe you should read the thread before posting something like this.
Maybe you should read the thread before posting something like this.
Lol, first of all it has been confirmed that the PS4 Pro footage of FFXV shown in the Sony trailer and on conventions was just a video and not real/live Pro gameplay. Secondly the high praises of the journalists was basically the usual Pro gushing.
When people watched the TGS trailer everyone was also like: This looks so much better, this is probably PS4 Pro material! Guess what? It wasn't. People hyped for the Pro want to see these improvements and when they see pretty footage it is of course Pro material in their minds. It's what you call the Placebo Effect.
FFXV will get it's mandatory Pro mode and it will be in 4K plus HDR, but better textures, better lighting, better LOD. Dream on. They just confirmed it won't have these kinds of improvements today themselves.
LowParry
Member
Perrrrrrrrrrfect.
rayman1900
Member
Maybe you should read the thread before posting something like this.
Well, who to believe in this case ? Tabata or those people who might just happen to realize the game looks better on a bigger resolution ?
Yappadappadu
Member
That's what I'm thinking as well.
I'll believe it once SE prepares some direct comparison footage which I don't expect them to do, so someone else will have to do it.
We don't know if that TGS trailer was the standard PS4. Looking at the newest press footage, it probably wasn't.
Original Man
Member
In this thread: People who won't buy the pro so they try to spin anything positive about pro versions into negative.
It'll have one at launch. The director is saying in the future he'd like to do one with even more bells and whistles later.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Pro version will be available day 1, and impressions for it have been very positive.
nelsonroyale
Member
The Death Spell footage, which is from PC footage seems to already have better LoD to me than the PS4 version. No reason they couldnt impliment that with the Pro.
Well...
Top 2016 TGS trailer, bottom Polygon's 45 minute video.
Not saying it's PS4Pro footage, but it does look significantly different from stuff we're seeing from what outlets are labeling as 'final build of the game'. That much at least isn't placebo.
edit: timestamps:
TGS2016
Polygon
edit2: brightness/contrast settings, time of day, horrid youtube compression yadda yadda. Who knows until the game is out, really.
brandonh83
Banned
PSY・S;221116812 said:
Agreed, and I'll be okay if the Pro version at least looks and runs a little better at launch.
It just sucks, kinda, that there's going to be a post-launch patch. The wait has been ridiculous already so I don't suspect anyone will actually wait for that. It's good that it's happening, but it's a bit harder to forgive as they announced a date, delayed two months, and are still going to release the patch later.
It'll be good once that patch hits, but many will have already played through the game by then unless it's a post-haste update. It's good that it will eventually exist though.