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[LordKano]

The Monster Boy : Dragon's Trap remake is coming to the Nintendo Switch. It's one of the two projects from FDG entertainment that has been teased (the other is without a doubt
Oceanhorn)
https://twitter.com/FDG_Games/status/790495122823733248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

 

[Horsemama1956]

Good point. But in that case, Nintendo would benefit more with only Fallout 4 at launch as it's the more recent game and still have buzz around it. Skyrim is a 5 year old game and it wouldn't help Nintendo to attract specific group of gamers Nintendo trying to reach. That's why I said both.

No one buys a Nintendo console anymore for 3rd party games, so I doubt it matters(unless for whatever reason you only buy 1 console\no PC). Who even knows if it can run Fallout 4 lol.

 

[Mpl90]

The Monster Boy : Dragon's Trap remake is coming to the Nintendo Switch. It's one of the two projects from FDG entertainment that has been teased (the other is without a doubt
Oceanhorn)
https://twitter.com/FDG_Games/status/790495122823733248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

Considering how the blog post mentions no platforms at all, and it's just an hashtag from their tweets, it's basically an announcement without announcing it, lmao.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

A great way to represent the NX in christmas gifts is to just wrap the logo in an envelope with the words "SANTA IS GETTING YOU ONE IN MARCH".

 

[Dark Cloud]

What if you don't press the face buttons but the side buttons (L/R for joycon)? If this is used just for touch screen functionality on the big screen it should be enough.

I didn't think of that. That feels like in my mind it would work well, but yeah if it's supposed to replicate touch screen you probably won't need the buttons anyways.

 

[KingSnake]

No one buys a Nintendo console anymore for 3rd party games, so I doubt it matters(unless for whatever reason you only buy 1 console\no PC). Who even knows if it can run Fallout 4 lol.

This time Switch has an upper hand though. You don't get the best version of the multiplat, graphically speaking, but you get the only portable version. I think that's quite a good motivation to buy some third party games.

 

[Taker666]

That's kind of weird though. You have to hold the joy con upside down to use it. I'm not seeing how you can press the face buttons with one hand. I guess you'd have to use both hands, unless since it's only there to replicate the touchscreen you won't need them or you use both hands on it.

Why not? People use phones and remote controls perfectly well with one hand.

 

[wrowa]

The Monster Boy : Dragon's Trap remake is coming to the Nintendo Switch. It's one of the two projects from FDG entertainment that has been teased (the other is without a doubt
Oceanhorn)
https://twitter.com/FDG_Games/status/790495122823733248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

That's Monster Boy: And the Cursed Kingdom, an original spiritual successor to Wonder Boy. The remake is called Wonder Boy: Dragon's Trap.

 

[RubberJohnny]

Laura's post on the Switch is up

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/...ight-joy-con-offers-ir-pointer-functionality/

That doesn't sound very plausible, the bit they highlighted just looks like a rubber foot.

 

[The Giant]

The Monster Boy : Dragon's Trap remake is coming to the Nintendo Switch. It's one of the two projects from FDG entertainment that has been teased (the other is without a doubt
Oceanhorn)
https://twitter.com/FDG_Games/status/790495122823733248?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

This is great news.

 

[TheDinoman]

So IR pointers are back on the table? That's nice.

If there was one thing the Wiimote was great at, it was pointing and aiming at things. Even Matthewmatosis pointed that out during his Mario Galaxy review/analysis. For example, when playing Pikmin 3 I actually vastly preferred the Wiimote controls over playing on the Gamepad/Pro Controller. It also worked great for Metroid Prime Trilogy (except for the cumbersome beam switching controls in the first two games).

Spoiler

also gives me some hope that kid icarus uprising will be ported over one day...

 

[Dark Cloud]

Why not? People use phones and remote controls perfectly well with one hand.

It's so small though lol. I can't stand how small the joy-cons are.

 

[Coreda]

I'm talking about these kinds of mockups. Remember, Nintendo is no stranger to multiple controller options.

For once in a very long time these kind of accessories - if they materialize - have made me interested in a console. It's also the compact size of the whole package, screen and all. That said I'll probably never buy it unless it has games I'm really interested in but I'm bullish about the potential.

 

[ASIS]

Laura's post on the Switch is up

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/...ight-joy-con-offers-ir-pointer-functionality/

This makes no sense though. maybe you could flip the L/R controllers and each hand has the opposite controller (right hand has the L joy con and the left hand has the R joy con). But then you wouldn't have access to triggers. I don't think that's the case. And more importantly, what is the battery life of this thing if it has that many functions. And how on earth do you charge it if you are playing Wiimote + Nunchuck style if the bottom of the controller is already used up?

 

[Sesuadra]

Did anyone post the gamexplain interview with one of the actors from the spot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQu0hyYcnR4
if so, sorry ^^"..

 

[KingSnake]

This makes no sense though. maybe you could flip the L/R controllers and each hand has the opposite controller (right hand has the L joy con and the left hand has the R joy con). But then you wouldn't have access to triggers. I don't think that's the case. And more importantly, what is the battery life of this thing if it has that many functions. And how on earth do you charge it if you are playing Wiimote + Nunchuck style if the bottom of the controller is already used up?

Only one joycon supposedly has the IR sensor, so it doesn't matter if it's right or left and you charge them in the tablet or in the Grip.

 

[ramparter]

Did anyone post the gamexplain interview with one of the actors from the spot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQu0hyYcnR4
if so, sorry ^^"..

It got its own thread http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1298931&page=3

 

[trugs26]

It does not match it the layout but in terms of number of buttons it does:

Stick can replace the D-Pad (not perfect)

Triggers can replace A and B (or A, B)

+ and home replaced by + and home / - and Share

1, 2, Home replaced by A, B , X, Y (extra button).

Power unnecessary. it would not be very comfortable but it there is sufficient buttons.

The nunchuck is a better 'layout' match: C and Z are matched by the trigger and back button and it has a stick (with extra buttons).

I can foresee them releasing Wii style Joy cons or just patching in Wii mote support down the line of the Switch's life.

The triggers are at the bottom of the switch controller (since it is upside down), so you can't use those for A and B on the Wiimote.

But the biggest issue is that it simply won't fit in your hand. You're supposed to have the handle longer at the bottom. Having it upside down just doesn't work ergonomically.

 

[DownGrader]

And how on earth do you charge it if you are playing Wiimote + Nunchuck style if the bottom of the controller is already used up?

I suppose it just draws the power from Nintendo Switch when connected, then keeps it. Maybe the Grip serves as a power bank or at least as a charger adapter, who knows. (But how does the Grip charge in that case?)

 

[ASIS]

Only one joycon supposedly has the IR sensor, so it doesn't matter if it's right or left and you charge them in the tablet or in the Grip.

It still makes more sense ergonomically speaking to switch them up. Charging in either the tablet or the grip might be a problem though, I don't want to change my play style every time I need to charge. Here's hoping the battery life is decent for long sessions at least.

 

[runnin_blue]

Laura's post on the Switch is up

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/...ight-joy-con-offers-ir-pointer-functionality/

That's so weird. It's like she just lifted that directly from this thread. What a strange coincidence.

 

[KingSnake]

It still makes more sense ergonomically speaking to switch them up.

There was no other place to put the IR sensor because on the top you already have a shoulder and a trigger.

 

[ramparter]

So, some things that I've saw in the video and my speculations:

1: Backward compatibility Wii via VC
in this frame

we see something like an ir sensor, the same we had in the wiimote

I'd welcome an IR pointer, not just for VC Wii compatibility but also bcause it's really good in navigating menus and shooting/aiming controls.

 

[ASIS]

There was no other place to put the IR sensor because on the top you already have a shoulder and a trigger.

I know, but the solution is not ideal either and I have to say I'm not a fan of it. I like IR but this seems completely pointless.

 

[runnin_blue]

Any chance what we think is an ir sensor in the blurry screen grab is in fact a port to charge the Joycon controller?

 

[KingSnake]

Another possible use is that you use the right joycon as a pointer and the left joycon as a "nunchuck"

I know, but the solution is not ideal either and I have to say I'm not a fan of it. I like IR but this seems completely pointless.

As stated, it can be just a workaround for the touch controls. Or Wii compatibility.

 

[Sylfurd]

This makes no sense though. maybe you could flip the L/R controllers and each hand has the opposite controller (right hand has the L joy con and the left hand has the R joy con). But then you wouldn't have access to triggers. I don't think that's the case. And more importantly, what is the battery life of this thing if it has that many functions. And how on earth do you charge it if you are playing Wiimote + Nunchuck style if the bottom of the controller is already used up?

Yep it smells like complete BS to me ! It could have an IR sensor but in no way it will be used with the joy con nor replace a touch screen !

 

[KingSnake]

Yep it smells like complete BS to me ! It could have an IR sensor but in no way it will replace a touch screen !

Who said anything about replacing?

 

[wrowa]

Actually, yesterday I tried an Android TV remote thing that had the pointer function without any sensor bar and so, just using a 6 axis accelerometer. It worked exactly as the one in Wii, so maybe it does not even need that kind of stuff (and no turning the remote)

That's something Nintendo has done in the past with games like Skyward Sword as well, which didn't use the sensor bar for pointing, but Motion Plus's gyro sensor. I'm not sure why Switch would necessarily need IR aiming to replicate touch.

Though, if normal Wiimotes can be used as well, having an IR sensor would make compatibility less of a headache, I guess.

 

[Maogp]

Laura from LPVG will put today a new article on Switch and that might answer a bit your speculation:

https://twitter.com/LaurakBuzz/status/790497689645510656

perfect.

Now that a see it in motion, you might be right. There's a reflection on the controller.

yes, a piece of lucid plastic

What if the controllers connect by IR and that's why the top peeks out the dock?

That would reduce battery consumption.

exactly what i think. Another option is something like:

maybe the piece of tablet out of the dock can show some info like battery status, wifi on, date et cetera

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

That's not how that works.

Serious question. Why not?

 

[radcliff]

The problem I potentially see with the setup Laura describes is that I don't have a lot of space on the top of my TV stand for anything other than the TV. If I have to put the docking station on the top of the TV stand, it will block part of the screen. It won't fit on the shelves of the TV stand unless I place it horizontally. Well, it will fit vertically, but lifting the tablet from the stand will be awkward as the shelves aren't very tall- just tall enough for a console/cable box/blu ray player, etc.. Again, if I can place the docking station on its side and not have it hinder the IR pointer, then there is no issue. In fact, I would be ecstatic as I loved using IR pointing in games, especially FPSs.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Another possible use is that you use the right joycon as a pointer and the left joycon as a "nunchuck"



As stated, it can be just a workaround for the touch controls. Or Wii compatibility.

I doubt Wii compatibility would be a thing with the buttons being in funny places. Side triggers could be used but they'll be on the wrong side if held face up.

 

[KingSnake]

I doubt Wii compatibility would be a thing with the buttons being in funny places. Side triggers could be used but they'll be on the wrong side if held face up.

Yeah, I don't believe too much in Wii compatibility either. But using it for menus and touch games, I can see it.

 

[DownGrader]

maybe the piece of tablet out of the dock can show some info like battery status, wifi on, date et cetera

Now I definitely see SpotPass or Friend List notifications popping up there.

 

[Sylfurd]

Who said anything about replacing?

in the blog post:

With regards to how this will be circumvented, we believe the solution is that touch screen games will be playable on your TV by use of an IR pointer located in the bottom of the right Joy-Con.

...

Having spoken to sources within Ubisoft, we believe that games which support touch functionality on the handheld will use IR functionality to replicate that ability on the TV.

 

[_Ryo_]

So, quick question. If the docks only purpose is to charge the tablet and supply power, hdmi and usb ports via a usb c port, what stops third parties from just releasing their own docks with more ports and slots? Well of course there would probably be encryption but I think n due time that could be worked around...

Wouldn't this hurt Nintendo and wouldn't a proprietary port be better suited?

 

[Starchasing]

perfect.


yes, a piece of lucid plastic


exactly what i think. Another option is something like:

maybe the piece of tablet out of the dock can show some info like battery status, wifi on, date et cetera

Any chance what we think is an ir sensor in the blurry screen grab is in fact a port to charge the Joycon controller?

That's so weird. It's like she just lifted that directly from this thread. What a strange coincidence.

She has been lifting from threads and people from twitter. Thats what journalist do these days.

I don't think the IR is for Wii BC. Its for duplicating touch screen functionality. Its all in the patents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d6KuiuteIA

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=220230819&postcount=45

 

[Rodin]

maybe the piece of tablet out of the dock can show some info like battery status, wifi on, date et cetera

This would be incredible.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

This makes no sense though. maybe you could flip the L/R controllers and each hand has the opposite controller (right hand has the L joy con and the left hand has the R joy con). But then you wouldn't have access to triggers.

If it's mostly a replacement for touch functions, full use of buttons isn't really necessary. A button to press for when you want to touch where you're pointing and it does the trick.

And how on earth do you charge it if you are playing Wiimote + Nunchuck style if the bottom of the controller is already used up?

I just assume you'd never actually charge the split controllers while they are split. And if one did, by using the inside place it attaches to the tablet part with, rather than the bottom.

 

[KingSnake]

in the blog post:

on the TV

 

[wrowa]

in the blog post:

Are you misreading replicating as replacing? Since you can't use touch controls in TV mode, you'll just need something to replicate touch with. Pointer controls or Steam Controller-like touchpads are really the only feasible options for that.

 

[jts]

The thing with that option as the sensor bar is that for many people the console cannot be centered without obstructing the TV view, and some will even find it hard to place the thing vertically at all, as pointed before.

Pointer emulation via motion sensing sounds more feasible.

And also lets face it. When it works it’s great, but the IR pointer had a lot of issues. Needs that whole physical setup with some sort of bar, needs good placement, good lighting, and I’ve seen sooooooo many kids struggling to even find their cursor. Gyro-based pointer may lose some “directness” but I’m sure it can be worked to be really good and alleviates the lot of the IR issues.

 

[mrklaw]

but in the youtube video the very first clip with the dog - the dock is on the left of the TV. How would that work if it was also a sensor bar?

 

[Dark Cloud]

This would be incredible.

This would be so out of left field it would be amazing. I would've never expected something like this in a million years.

 

[klier]

maybe the piece of tablet out of the dock can show some info like battery status, wifi on, date et cetera

Very neat. Bring it on.

 

[BDGAME]

No sensor bar is necessary.

 

[TLZ]

How can you not be excited? There are so many surprises and unknown that makes the Switch so exciting and 2017 it two months and a week or so away....

You're assuming they'll tell us everything on new year's

It might be February for all we know.

 

[wrowa]

maybe the piece of tablet out of the dock can show some info like battery status, wifi on, date et cetera

That's a neat idea, but good luck reading any of that while sitting on a sofa 2 or 3 meters away from the dock.

 

[DownGrader]

So, quick question. If the docks only purpose is to charge the tablet and supply power, hdmi and usb ports via a usb c port, what stops third parties from just releasing their own docks with more ports and slots? Well of course there would probably be encryption but I think n due time that could be worked around...

Wouldn't this hurt Nintendo and wouldn't a proprietary port be better suited?

I feel that, even without added computing power, Dock will be something more than fancy AC+AV cable. Maybe it will have a USB controller or an internal memory to keep TV connection settings... or even serving as an external storage for Swutch, while we are at it.