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What's up with these Kingdom Hearts numbers?!

I love its naming.

KH1.5 > 2.5 > 2.8

Hey look it goes up in order.

hurr hurr so confusing and complicated, omg omg smh.

You can like its naming conventions all you want but anyone honestly trying to argue how the Kingdom Hearts series isn't a confusing mess is being disingenuous.

And it's not jus about three compilations with three numbers with decimal numbers. As a casual KH fan i constantly see shit like KH 0.2, and KH 358/2, KH Re:CoM or KH Unchained X. Add to that how they've dragged out the story for 15 goddamn years, which in it on itself has its own massive problems when trying to make sense of it, and you have a very very confused audience.

I'm a diehard gamer who GAFs daily and has played KH1, and 2 on PS2 and I don't know what the fuck's going on anymore. What are the chances that other less invested would-be fans who dont dwell on gaming forums everyday will buy these compilations or KH3?

Theres a lot to love about KH. Maybe even its titles. But let's be real and drop the pretenses. Do not defend this series saying they're not confusing or say they're easy to follow. As true as water is wet it is not.

Guide to Kingdom Hearts ports

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix has:

- The remastered Kingdom Hearts from the PS2 except with the content that was exclusive to the rerelease Japan had
- The remastered Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories which came out on the PS2, a game that takes place directly after the first Kingdom Hearts and is a remake of a GBA game
- Remastered and new cutscenes from Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days, these are from a DS game. THIS IS JUST CUTSCENES.

Kingdom Hearts 2.5 HD Remix:

- The remastered Kingdom Hearts 2 from the PS2 except with the content that was exclusive to the rerelease Japan had
- The remeastered Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep from the PSP, except with the content that was exclusive to the rerelease Japan had
- Remastered and new cutscenes from Kingdom Hearts Re: coded, these are from a DS game. THIS IS JUST CUTSCENES.

Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue:

- The remastered Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance which was originally on the 3DS.
- A small game that was developed just as a sort of demo for Kingdom Hearts 3, called Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep 0.2 A Fragmentary Passage
- Cutscenes based off the phone game Kingdom Hearts X

Here, have this graph:

I rest my case.
 
Its really not that complicated. Talking about kingdom hearts on this place is a tad annoying. Nd now with the mega collection coming soon you only need two discs to catch up on the series but I'm sure that's to hard too
 
358/2 was just a weird number that tied into whatever in that game.

1.5 is an improved version of 1 with extra content from other games that took place before 2.

2.5 is the same thing, but for 2.

2.8 comes with even more content than 2.5

1 -> 2 -> 3

1.5 -> 2.8 -> 3
 
Wait, do any of these PS4 collections include 358/2 Days, CoM and BBS or are those floating off on their little console islands?
Com and bbs are playable
The ps4 collection has both included.
Days is in a movie form

Which is baffling. The KH 2.8 package really doesn't warrant the asking price.
They know people are going to pay for it because of 0.2. DDD isn't too old either and the back cover movie is a brand new thing as well
 

Xliskin

Member
Everything about this game is confusing even the story just get the game that on January and March and you good to go
 

kewlmyc

Member
Guide to Kingdom Hearts ports

Kingdom Hearts 1.5 HD Remix has:

- The remastered Kingdom Hearts from the PS2 except with the content that was exclusive to the rerelease Japan had
- The remastered Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories which came out on the PS2, a game that takes place directly after the first Kingdom Hearts and is a remake of a GBA game
- Remastered and new cutscenes from Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days, these are from a DS game. THIS IS JUST CUTSCENES.

Kingdom Hearts 2.5 HD Remix:

- The remastered Kingdom Hearts 2 from the PS2 except with the content that was exclusive to the rerelease Japan had
- The remeastered Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep from the PSP, except with the content that was exclusive to the rerelease Japan had
- Remastered and new cutscenes from Kingdom Hearts Re: coded, these are from a DS game. THIS IS JUST CUTSCENES.

Kingdom Hearts 2.8 Final Chapter Prologue:

- The remastered Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance which was originally on the 3DS.
- A small game that was developed just as a sort of demo for Kingdom Hearts 3, called Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep 0.2 A Fragmentary Passage
- Cutscenes based off the phone game Kingdom Hearts X

Cool, thanks for this.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
It just gets annoying hearing the same tired complaints over and over. If one has not paid attention to KH since 1 and 2, and for that matter, skipped chain of memories, does one want an explanation to how to go through them or do they want to cry about how the titles are weird for 90 pages?

Just buy the compilation collections and play them if you want to get up to speed.

ALso just for clarification, Back Cover(the final game in 2.8) is not cutscenes of Kingdom Hearts Chi, it is an actual movie showcasing completely new events from the perspective of the foretellers. Mostly from the perspective of random keyblade warriors.

Back Cover will likely cover the events of Chi anyway, and make it irrelevant.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
Wait, do any of these PS4 collections include 358/2 Days, CoM and BBS or are those floating off on their little console islands?

1.5+2.5 contain everything that is not in 2.8 and 3

Seems like a price for just the hardcore fans then, but not for the general public.

Well yeah, core fans are going to buy it, and then when the price drops others will.

I'm buying because i haven't played DDD myself cause i don't own a 3DS
 

raven777

Member
Which is baffling. The KH 2.8 package really doesn't warrant the asking price.

I do agree it should be a bit less. $50 would be have probably good price for it. But they are putting a lot more effort compared to previous collections since they are making a movie from ground up and current-gen short game.
 

Kaizer

Banned
Its really not that complicated. Talking about kingdom hearts on this place is a tad annoying. Nd now with the mega collection coming soon you only need two discs to catch up on the series but I'm sure that's to hard too

It'll be hard as his mind crumbles trying to make sense of the storyline across all the games LOL
 
Seems like a price for just the hardcore fans then, but not for the general public.
O yea that's absolutely what it is DDD is probably the most divisive,0.2 is a brand new short taste of kh3 gameplay plus a popular character and the back cover story is something only the Hardcore will follow
 

Berordn

Member
358/2 was just a weird number that tied into whatever in that game.

1.5 is an improved version of 1 with extra content from other games that took place before 2.

2.5 is the same thing, but for 2.

2.8 comes with even more content than 2.5

1 -> 2 -> 3

1.5 -> 2.8 -> 3

2.5 and 2.8 are different collections. The former contains 2 and BBS (KH0), the latter contains 3D and 0.2 (a short current gen game following up on the events of BBS).
 
1.5+2.5 contain everything that is not in 2.8 and 3



Well yeah, core fans are going to buy it, and then when the price drops others will.

I'm buying because i haven't played DDD myself cause i don't own a 3DS
O man you are in fir a treat DDD is my favorite of the bunch(unpopular opinion) flow motion is so good
 

Gator86

Member
Here, have this graph:

This has to rank up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen in gaming. How dumb do you have to be to fuck up "let's hang out with Disney characters?" Why is any of this necessary? Do the devs actually think more than a handful of people who frequent message boards are buying these games for the thrilling saga of Xenohort, Xasdog, and the heartless nobodies' search for anime mcguffins?
 
This has to rank up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen in gaming. How dumb do you have to be to fuck up "let's hang out with Disney characters?" Why is any of this necessary? Do the devs actually think more than a handful of people who frequent message boards are buying these games for the thrilling saga of Xenohort, Xasdog, and the heartless nobodies' search for anime mcguffins?
Yes actually
 

Xliskin

Member
It just gets annoying hearing the same tired complaints over and over. If one has not paid attention to KH since 1 and 2, and for that matter, skipped chain of memories, does one want an explanation to how to go through them or do they want to cry about how the titles are weird for 90 pages?

Just buy the compilation collections and play them if you want to get up to speed.

ALso just for clarification, Back Cover(the final game in 2.8) is not cutscenes of Kingdom Hearts Chi, it is an actual movie showcasing completely new events from the perspective of the foretellers. Mostly from the perspective of random keyblade warriors.

Back Cover will likely cover the events of Chi anyway, and make it irrelevant.

I mean seriously even the story confusing for the sake of being confusing no wonder ppl confused everytime they mention it

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LOL
 
This has to rank up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen in gaming. How dumb do you have to be to fuck up "let's hang out with Disney characters?" Why is any of this necessary? Do the devs actually think more than a handful of people who frequent message boards are buying these games for the thrilling saga of Xenohort, Xasdog, and the heartless nobodies' search for anime mcguffins?
I'll buy KH3 on day one and play it for its art design, game play, music, final fantasy fanservice and Disney worlds. But I've long since made my peace that I won't know what the fuck will be going down with its nonesensical story. Fuck trying to follow this series.
 

Fewr

Member
358/2 is the only onl one I've played. I thought it was ok, but I didn't understand the overall story at all, only what happens between the main character and the other with red hair.

I played 1hr of KH1, but didn't like the camera at all and left it.
 

DNAbro

Member
Back Cover? What?

It's the movie for Chi/X

This has to rank up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen in gaming. How dumb do you have to be to fuck up "let's hang out with Disney characters?" Why is any of this necessary? Do the devs actually think more than a handful of people who frequent message boards are buying these games for the thrilling saga of Xenohort, Xasdog, and the heartless nobodies' search for anime mcguffins?

I love how stupid and convoluted the story is. I do want to see how it ends. Gameplay is king though obviously.
 

papercamm

Member
We should count our blessings the games have been collected for us. Trying to play the games before they started releasing collections was, well, a challenge.
 

TirMcGrey

Member
If you think the titles are confusing (they are), wait till you meet my main man Ansem.
Xehanort


Not including the heartless Ansem, the past version Xehanort, Xemnas the nobody, the original Ansem the Wise, or any of the organization XIII members possessed by Xehanort.
 
If you think the titles are confusing (they are), wait till you meet my main man Ansem.
Xehanort


Not including the heartless Ansem, the past version Xehanort, Xemnas the nobody, the original Ansem the Wise, or any of the organization XIII members possessed by Xehanort.
Ansem the wise is now a non factor

As far as knowing the 13 darkness's
Xehanort
Past Xehanort
Xehanort heartless
Xemnas(Xehanort nobody)
Saix
Xigbar
Terranort(Xehanort has Terra's body)
 

J-Skee

Member
I know it has already been said in this thread, but I have to reiterate.

It's not 1.5, 2.5 & 2.8. It's I.5, II.2 & II.8: Final Chapter Prologue.

It's hurts to type those out.
 

Inuhanyou

Believes Dragon Quest is a franchise managed by Sony
This has to rank up there with the dumbest things I've ever seen in gaming. How dumb do you have to be to fuck up "let's hang out with Disney characters?" Why is any of this necessary? Do the devs actually think more than a handful of people who frequent message boards are buying these games for the thrilling saga of Xenohort, Xasdog, and the heartless nobodies' search for anime mcguffins?

Millions of people, sure. Cause they keep selling.

I mean seriously even the story confusing for the sake of being confusing no wonder ppl confused everytime they mention it

If one had actually kept up with the story then they would not be confused(mostly).

Its not even a lot of people who have been playing the games complaining but those who obviously skipped everything and(or never played them to begin with) are now complaining they don't understand.

I understand its way more convoluted than it needs to be, but its kind of also the fault of those people who have not played the games as well.
 

tolkir

Member
Japan things. Evangelion movies has something similar.

Evangelion 1.00
Evangelion 1.01
Evangelion 1.11
Evangelion 2.00
Evangelion 2.22
Evangelion 3.00
Evangelion 3.33
Evangelion 3.0+1.0
 

Berordn

Member
That's it.
I'm never playing these games.

The story's really a non-factor. Just play the games in release order and you'll follow along well enough. The timeline just exists to vaguely explain why the big bad is actually 13 little bads, and loosely explain what Mickey's done to be such a BAMF.
 
You can like its naming conventions all you want but anyone honestly trying to argue how the Kingdom Hearts series isn't a confusing mess is being disingenuous.

And it's not jus about three compilations with three numbers with decimal numbers. As a casual KH fan i constantly see shit like KH 0.2, and KH 358/2, KH Re:CoM or KH Unchained X. Add to that how they've dragged out the story for 15 goddamn years, which in it on itself has its own massive problems when trying to make sense of it, and you have a very very confused audience.

I'm a diehard gamer who GAFs daily and has played KH1, and 2 on PS2 and I don't know what the fuck's going on anymore. What are the chances that other less invested would-be fans who dont dwell on gaming forums everyday will buy these compilations or KH3?

Theres a lot to love about KH. Maybe even its titles. But let's be real and drop the pretenses. Do not defend this series saying they're not confusing or say they're easy to follow. As true as water is wet it is not.





I rest my case.

Its not that deep it goes up in order man
Counting tho
1.5 2.5 2.8

Its the easiest its ever been.

I guess you can call me a casual KH fan since i only played KH1 and got back into the series with KH1.5 thats like 5+ years from when i played it and all i had to play the games in the collection left to right i think.

That's it.
I'm never playing these games.

Peak :(
 

KHlover

Banned
I know it has already been said in this thread, but I have to reiterate.

It's not 1.5, 2.5 & 2.8. It's I.5, II.2 & II.8: Final Chapter Prologue.

It's hurts to type those out.

Kingdom Hearts 0.2 Birth by Sleep -A Fragmentary Passage-

Hurts even more to type that out. Love Kingdom Hearts, but that has to be the dumbest, most confusing name for any game I've ever seen.
 
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