Nah, that was a tiny bit more close to the original:Didn't marilyn manson do that as well?
Nah, that was a tiny bit more close to the original:Didn't marilyn manson do that as well?
Ever heard of the band "Laibach"? Though, granted, those guys actually do have a message behind their outfit (and it's not what you could think it is).
Well, the point being made was that the outfit alone wouldn't fly in Western countries. I only wanted to give counter-examples to that. If I did some research I could probably also find some examples from non-Nazi bands that more or less just like the aesthetic of uniforms.I'm not sure what the comparison here is, Laibach was obviously using Nazi imagery in a subversive way. The closest thing I can think of is Hanzel and Gretyl, but they're pretty blatantly satirical as well.
I really can't think of any western bands with a Nazi-inspired aesthetic that aren't satire, or at least being deliberately edgy (Manson). Or actual Nazis.
Thankfully, not. Akimoto just blamed it all on his staff.Que the "please understand us" excuse bullshit.
A lot of western artists have. Nicki Minaj and AFI come to mind.Didn't marilyn manson do that as well?
Nazi uniforms are legitimately cool as fuck, why would you let nazis (who will never rise up again) ruin cool stuff for you? If Hitler played video games, would you stop playing video games to not glorify nazi culture?
Well, these young women probably had no say in it. Akimoto even called it 'unbelievable'. Given AKB48's history, I would not put it past them to court controversy in such an idiotic way.Japan is like one of the few countries I could actually see ignorance being an excuse for the younger generation with how WWII material is presented and the unusual love for the Nazis uniforms in media. They basically throw whatever shit they say once in a book into their next animu.
Personally, I think the wearing of any countries military uniform historical or otherwise as a fashion statement outside of being an actual member of the military to be offensive to varying degrees.
Personally, I think the wearing of any countries military uniform historical or otherwise as a fashion statement outside of being an actual member of the military to be offensive to varying degrees.
Didn't marilyn manson do that as well?
You don't get braided ropes. You get laurel wreaths.Google pilot hat and you get hats with eagles and braided ropes.
This will never not be funny.
This will never not be funny.
Personally, I think the wearing of any countries military uniform historical or otherwise as a fashion statement outside of being an actual member of the military to be offensive to varying degrees.
Nazi germany military outfits were/are Boss as fuck
I mean, Nazi fashion is sharp, but the veneration of it is weird. That's what I was referring to
AgreedBut I love my Burberry trench coat.
Anecdotal, but I once tried to talk about this with two Japanese friends and they didn't even know what a Nazi is.What kind of WW2 history do they teach in Japan anyway?
Is this Japanese blackface?
Pretty distasteful
Literally, Hugo Boss made them.Nazi germany military outfits were/are Boss as fuck
Is this Japanese blackface?
Pretty distasteful
Sure it's not M. Bison cosplay?
but M Bison is ok? lol ...
Looks more like a modify M Bison costume from the classic Street Fighter movie than SS outflit.
They're probably cosplaying M. Bison!
Something something Tuesday.
The girls fucked up..
I want to know though, what would be the line between "celebration" and pardody? Or would a Imperial Star Wars costume count as a Nazi costume? (they're the same). Most importantly, when does it stop beinh offensive? I don't want it to be, of course, but at what point in time starts being like Gengish Khan or Persian soldier or one of those other genocidal people costunes you take without being accused of "celebraging violence?. There's an interesting discussion to be had about how modern history doesn't have the tendency of allowin being forgotten.
No, its not. Its ganguro.No, this is Japanese blackface:
Blackface is a serious problem in Japan.
They look like cute airline pilots with cloaks
Almost never in black. Like the Chaplin mustache, there's unfortunate baggage with the visual of a black peaked cap and coat.Google pilot hat and you get hats with eagles and braided ropes.
Nazi germany military outfits were/are Boss as fuck
Literally, Hugo Boss made them.
Jinx isn't based on ganguro. I'm honestly not sure what she's supposed to be; I don't think she was intended to resemble black face when you look at the original Sugumori art where her face conspicuously lacks shading and looks more like a hole than a black surface (contrast with Cloyster's and Gastly's art). She ended up looking like black face though, which is functionally the same thing. And then the anime basically made her Zwarte Piett, so it's not like it was just people outside Japan who saw blackface.No, its not. Its ganguro.
No, its not. Its ganguro.
Some of the posts in here are just......., how can so many not get that how offensive this is?
I assume everyone missed the last couple of pages filled with banned users, because you guys keep making the same comments
Well, it looks exactly like Ganguro to me, the creator says it is. You haven't really refuted it with anything substantial.Which...literally translates to "blackface". Even if it didn't, ganguro didn't really peak until the mid 90s, making it improbable that Jynx was based on the fad given how long the original Red/Green were in development, not to mention that she doesn't resemble ganguro to begin with. Jynx is based on a racist caricature of black people that is fairly common in Japan. To reiterate: Blackface is a problem in Japan that's existed for a while and continues to pop up in some capacity to this very day.
Because why not
No, they haven't.Well, it looks exactly like Ganguro to me, the creator says it is. You haven't really refuted it with anything substantial.
Japan'a teaching of WWII probably is far insufficient for people to know the impact that Nazi symbolism has, especially since victims are still alive and there are groups who still keep Nazism alive. The taboo will not disappear for a very long time.
... but it eventually will.
Well, it looks exactly like Ganguro to me, the creator says it is. You haven't really refuted it with anything substantial.
GAF even has a Nazi uniform defense force. Who knew? Guess a lot of people here always had a weird obsession with Japan.
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Putting aside that I mentioned the timing of the ganguro fad that makes it very unlikely Jynx was inspired by it given its peak and the lengthy development time of Red/Green, I think the fact that they changed Jynx's skin from black to purple is about as much substantial evidence coupled with the banning of Holiday Hi-Jynx and other episodes featuring Jynx in North America one needs that Game Freak knows there's some less than ideal inspirations behind this particular Pokémon, namely its rese....
Dude, ganguro translates literally to black-face. It is assumed that ganguro started when Japanese girls started being fans of Janet Jackson in the 90s. Whether it's infatuation with black people or not, still it's blackface.No, its not. Its ganguro.
Well I know speaking just for myself, I get how offensive it is, and I don't condone it, I just feel a little sad that one of the most monstrous superpowers the world has ever known ended up having outfits that actually look good, because they'll always have this reputation/connotation to them that makes them totally off-limits. It's definitely a deserved reputation, for sure, but man.