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[R3TRODYCE]

Da fuq.

 

[ShadowFox08]

Oh god the journey references in the OP...

 

[Son of Flounder]

MS obviously paid for it to be on the Win10 store. Also why would steam allow cross play? That just gives people another option on PC and not buy it on Steam.

Steam is an open platform and has supported cross play for years, Portal2 was cross play on PS3 and there are several PS4 cross play titles, as well as Rocket League on Xbone.

I still think there are too many restrictions with UWP and UWA which is why third parties will likely struggle to get cross play working, if at all.

 

[Interfectum]

With Win10 games?

Win10 UWP/UWA is brand new. Have we seen an instance where Valve specifically stopped crossplay with Steamworks titles?

 

[Head.spawn]

Can you even have crossplay between a Steamworks game and a W10 UWP game?

Yeah, they announced that a long time ago.

 

[Purest 78]

Steam already has cross play, what are you talking about?

I didn't say it didn't I just see no incentives for Steam To allow it For Major Win10 releases.

 

[MUnited83]

I have to respectfully disagree. I can't rationalize any scenario where Microsoft gets 100% of the blame. They deserve some blame, for being tone deaf and incompetent, for not demanding higher quality from Activision and Infinity Ward.

In the end it's Activision and Infinity Ward deciding to not implement cross-play - they're the ones with their name on the game and they should be held to at least a little bit of accountability.

Not really. If the only reason the game is on the W10 store is because of MS's money, why the hell would you spend a bunch of money a whole crossplay solution if that doesn't benefit you, and it will result in around 5 more sales?

The responsability to pay for crossplay is on MS.

I didn't say it didn't I just see no incentives for Steam To allow it For Major Win10 releases.

They do allow it( the way steamworks works, they will never block crossplay with anything). It's just that MS does not give a shit.

 

[aeolist]

With Win10 games?

not that i know of, but there's very few non-microsoft windows 10 store games to begin with.

steam allows developers to use steamworks MP code or roll their own solution entirely. as long as the windows store allows it there's no reason for steam not to.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

I didn't say it didn't I just see no incentives for Steam To allow it For Major Win10 releases.

Not true. Steam don't work that way. PC is all about crossplay within the environment.

 

[Interfectum]

I didn't say it didn't I just see no incentives for Steam To allow it For Major Win10 releases.

But there's no history of them disallowing crossplay in the past, I'm not sure why Win10 would be different.

 

[patapuf]

With Win10 games?

As if valve has ever blocked compability with other clients of any kind.

 

[roytheone]

Oh no doubt. I feel bad for anyone that buys it.



OK

I wonder if they will grant refunds to people when the game launches with no playerbase whatsoever.

 

[Gamezone]

These are really the questions people should be asking Phil.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Because they're allowing it on their store?

them allowing it on their store doesn't mean they restricted crossplay

i'm not saying it couldn't be microsofts fault, i'd just like to know why this decision was made instead of blindly throwing around accusations

 

[Dyson Industries]

how is it microsofts fault?

Whose store is it, and who do you think ponied up the cash to have a UWP version ported to said store?

I'll give you a few minutes.

them allowing it on their store doesn't mean they restricted crossplay

i'm not saying it couldn't be microsofts fault, i'd just like to know why this decision was made instead of blindly throwing around accusations

OMG you got a few minutes and this is what you came up with?

Is this real life

 

[Chezzymann]

I'm curious about how low the numbers will be. Will it reach over 100 on launch day?

 

[aeolist]

I didn't say it didn't I just see no incentives for Steam To allow it For Major Win10 releases.

steam doesn't have to allow it specifically, that's the point. the steam ecosystem is by default open and allows basically any kind of multiplayer implementation with no restriction.

valve is not like the console platform holders that are restrictive by default.

 

[demigod]

People on page 1 getting owned by city boy is more interesting than the story itself.

 

[jelly]

These are really the questions people should be asking Phil.

COD is a big get regardless of player segregation. That's all Microsoft care about, a bullet point.

 

[le.phat]

This? I agree with.

Microsoft should have done a better job convincing Activision to at the very least make it cross play with Xbox One. But really? It also should have Ben Play Anywhere. Would have been a huge boon for the program. So yeah, Microsoft fucked up in THAT part. But maybe the marketing partnership with Sony blocks that?

Collingwood, ladies and gentlemen.

 

[panda-zebra]

I mean, whatever, if my only source was "I heard it from a guy on a train" I'd be skeptical too.

There are guys on trains, and thenn therr ar ggys o ttrians #truthfact

More chance of finding someone in No Man's Sky.

ouch. a new concept in fps - shared universe. it might catch on.

They're paying for the game to be on their store, they should be paying for the devs to implement a cross play solution too.

If they're not paying for it directly, they must be incentivising it heavily.

 

[Schlorgan]

COD is a big get regardless of player segregation. That's all Microsoft care about, a bullet point.

And all Activision cares about is having one more place for people to buy their game.

 

[KainXVIII]

Nobody will buy UWP version anyway.
Right?

 

[Interfectum]

them allowing it on their store doesn't mean they restricted crossplay

i'm not saying it couldn't be microsofts fault, i'd just like to know why this decision was made instead of blindly throwing around accusations

MS is the one trying to launch this huge initiative to win PC gamers back to Xbox/Microsoft/Windows 10. One of the first high profile 3rd party games out the gate for Windows 10 is severely crippled. They should probably have made sure this game plays nice with the big PC version if they want to be taken seriously.

 

[HighResTomato]

The fact that people are discussing CROSS PLAY on Windows devices is hilarious. Who controls the CoD servers, Valve or Activision?

Either way MS is getting played hella hard and deluded if think people who buy this on their store will ever buy anything again after.

 

[ScientificPizza]

Whose store is it, and who do you think ponied up the cash to have a UWP version ported to said store?

I'll give you a few minutes.


OMG you got a few minutes and this is what you came up with?

Is this real life

sorry for asking questions instead of just blindly jumping on a hate train my guy.

is there any confirmation that microsoft paid to have it on its store? or are we all just taking out assumptions as fact now

 

[Lister]

Sure is going to suck for the 3 people who will get it from the Win 10 store.

 

[aeolist]

does the normal PC version of CoD still use steamworks these days?

maybe they don't want to rework steamworks MP for UWP or microsoft won't allow it, so they're just using the xbox live for PC implementation

 

[cakely]

Tales from your ass?

This is based on what exactly?

I will take that bet....100% the other way...no way Microsoft would take them game if there was that stipulation

Only thing i can think of is activision is publishing it on the windows store for a laugh (which microsoft couldnt' stop them from doing)

EDIT: also bizarre is why wouldn't we hear anything concrete on this version if the game is coming out tomorrow? The whole thing seems unlikely to happen

You got really upset at this news.
You attacked the OP.

When someone posts news about something that sounds too ridiculous to be true about the Win 10 store or UWP, give them the benefit of the doubt. Historically, that news has a decent chance of being true.

 

[Interfectum]

The fact that people are discussing CROSS PLAY on Windows devices is hilarious. Who controls the CoD servers, Valve or Activision?

Either way MS is getting played hella hard and deluded if think people who buy this on their store will ever buy anything again after.

This is the key. Anyone who doesn't do their research and purchases this game thinking the playerbase will be somewhat healthy is in for a real surprise after installation. I can't imagine that person ever purchasing a game from the Microsoft Store again.

 

[No_Style]

Who thought this was a good idea?

 

[Montresor]

Not really. If the only reason the game is on the W10 store is because of MS's money, why the hell would you spend a bunch of money a whole crossplay solution if that doesn't benefit you, and it will result in around 5 more sales?

The responsability to pay for crossplay is on MS.


They do allow it( the way steamworks works, they will never block crossplay with anything). It's just that MS does not give a shit.

I really find it curious the way you're framing this. It's true MS deserves flak here. But:

You are saying "Why should Activision pay for cross play when it won't benefit them?"

Why should you let Activision off the hook for making a shitty product? They have their hand held out taking money from a dumb platform holder (aka Microsoft) and they greedily pocket that money and spend the minimum amount of effort to make a shitty game that customers would be remiss to purchase.

You're letting Activision off the hook and say Microsoft has the responsibility to pay for cross platform play. You're right that they should pay for it but that's only right because Activision is not pulling their end. Microsoft HAS to pay for cross platform pay because Activision won't budge. But Microsoft shouldn't be expected to do so. They shouldn't need to hold Activision by the hand and teach them how to make a good product for the end user.

 

[Schlorgan]

You got really upset at this news.
You attacked the OP.

When someone posts news about something that sounds too ridiculous to be true about the Win 10 store or UWP, give them the benefit of the doubt. Historically, that news has a decent chance of being true.

The real lesson is if benny_a reports something about an Activision game, he's probably right.

 

[LordRaptor]

Smart move, you get Xbox Live achievements which are worth so much more than Steam achievements, and you get the security and peace of mind that Xbox Live provides that nobody will be cheating and you won't be getting keylogged using Chrome.
Also, because its on the PC you can be sure you're getting the best quality pixels.

 

[Confused Cheeseburger]

More chance of finding someone in No Man's Sky.

ruthless

 

[Lupin the Third]

The real lesson is if benny_a reports something about an Activision game, he's probably right.

His handle is short for benny_activision?

 

[dreamfall]

Wow wow wow.

Windows Store and Microsoft continue to be ridiculous. Why would you split the community?

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

You lot of concern trolls! If it takes 2% of the PC market like Tomb Raider did it could easily have a possible population of like 20,000 a year from now!

 

[Chobel]

So they're allowing a bad game on their store and they're not actively forbidding cross platform play.

Do you not think some of the vitriol should also be placed towards Acti and IW?

This isn't a good look on Microsoft but they aren't the developer or even the publisher here.

First: IW most likely has nothing to do with this decision.

Second: Activision is doing what MS contracted them to do, obviously they're at fault for agreeing, but that doesn't exempt MS from blame.

Third and more importantly: MS is allowing this on their store and this is what the post you quoted talk about:

Microsoft, anyone that buys games from the Windows Store are idiots, this shit shouldn't be supported. You would think Windows Live was evidence enough that they don't care about PC gamers, seems some forgot.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

City Boy On A Train you say?

wow

 

[MUnited83]

I really find it curious the way you're framing this. It's true MS deserves flak here. But:

You are saying "Why should Activision pay for cross play when it won't benefit them?"

Why should you let Activision off the hook for making a shitty product? They have their hand held out taking money from a dumb platform holder (aka Microsoft) and they greedily pocket that money and spend the minimum amount of effort to make a shitty game that customers would be remiss to purchase.

You're letting Activision off the hook and say Microsoft has the responsibility to pay for cross platform play. You're right that they should pay for it but that's only right because Activision is not pulling their end. Microsoft HAS to pay for cross platform pay because Activision won't budge. But Microsoft shouldn't be expected to do so. They shouldn't need to hold Activision by the end and teach them how to make a good product for the end user.

The shitty product only exists on this case because of MS to begin with. Maybe next time MS will learn to negotiate and not take a shitty deal. (lmao nope, their shitty store needs all the help it can get and all they care is that they got a new third-party AAA on their store. They don't give a shit about the players or anything else).

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

It makes sense to suspect that MS paid. I was wondering if there was any confirmation.

Just as logical as it is to assume MS paid to get Activision to publish this version, It would be logical to assume that crossplay would be a requirement of any such monetary agreement.

My Point is, this situation defies all logic, so I'm not willing to assume anything. Who spends boatloads of $ to land a title that only 15 people will purchase, mostly by accident, then immediately regret regardless of how good the port is.

Exactly. Given the treamtment this port is getting, its more likely Microsoft didn't pay to have it on there. So Activision was like "Fuck it, we won't spend a cent either, have fun".

 

[thehillissilent]

Smart move, you get Xbox Live achievements which are worth so much more than Steam achievements, and you get the security and peace of mind that Xbox Live provides that nobody will be cheating and you won't be getting keylogged using Chrome.
Also, because its on the PC you can be sure you're getting the best quality pixels.

LMAO!!!!

 

[Bitch Pudding]

I really find it curious the way you're framing this. It's true MS deserves flak here. But:

You are saying "Why should Activision pay for cross play when it won't benefit them?"

Why should you let Activision off the hook for making a shitty product? They have their hand held out taking money from a dumb platform holder (aka Microsoft) and they greedily pocket that money and spend the minimum amount of effort to make a shitty game that customers would be remiss to purchase.

You're letting Activision off the hook and say Microsoft has the responsibility to pay for cross platform play. You're right that they should pay for it but that's only right because Activision is not pulling their end. Microsoft HAS to pay for cross platform pay because Activision won't budge. But Microsoft shouldn't be expected to do so. They shouldn't need to hold Activision by the end and teach them how to make a good product for the end user.

In the end, the losers of this play are the Windows store front itself and the dozens of people who for whatever reasons buy their copy there. The thing here is that even if it's not MS' fault alone, it still shows how important PC game(r)s are for MS' overall strategy. Long story short, they still don't give a fuck.

 

[NullPointer]

And confirmed:

https://support.activision.com/arti...re-Remastered-for-Windows-10-on-Windows-Store

Batshit crazy dumb as rocks decision making right here.

No, you can only play these titles with other users of Windows 10 on Windows Store.

Am reading the confirmation and still don't believe it.

Talk about being sent to die.

 

[bethore]

Ignorant person here. Why does this even matter? What PC gamer chooses the W10 version of a game over the Steam?

 

[Mass_Pincup]

Exactly. Given the treamtment this port is getting, its more likely Microsoft didn't pay to have it on there. So Activision was like "Fuck it, we won't spend a cent either, have fun".

But then why put it there at all?

Not to make money that's for sure.

 

[demigod]

Collingwood, ladies and gentlemen.

MS does no wrong in his eyes.

 

[Chobel]

Exactly. Given the treamtment this port is getting, its more likely Microsoft didn't pay to have it on there. So Activision was like "Fuck it, we won't spend a cent either, have fun".

lol! Yeah right, Activision just like that decided by themselves to publish on W10 store.

 

[Purest 78]

steam doesn't have to allow it specifically, that's the point. the steam ecosystem is by default open and allows basically any kind of multiplayer implementation with no restriction.

valve is not like the console platform holders that are restrictive by default.

I was trying to give MS the Benefit of doubt. Restricting A game like Cod to Win10 only is just plain Dumb.